Maniacal
the green Napoleon
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In mid December the Norwegion government (or rather it's "intelligence" (cough) agencies) saw a video on YouTube about what they claim is "Nazi Propaganda" using the Norwegion antheme.
In reality it is a recruitment video for an in game alliance (THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NAZIS). http://www.nordreich.net/ The game (Cybernations): http://www.cybernations.net/
(The following is from here and is in Alech's words)
From Norwegain media:
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=146989
refers too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08YmRlQBI7U
Short version in English:
The Norwegian government is appealed that the Norwegian national anthem has been abused by what they call Nazi-propaganda. The Nazi-propaganda in question is a Nordreich PR film on YouTube.
According to the article the Norwegian state department and Police are now looking into the matter.
Translation into English;
Nordreich's counter statement;
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Needless to say Norway has become the laughing stock of CN. Also the Iron cross has been used in WW1 and that was DEFINATELY before the Nazis.
EDIT: And this; http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4943984&postcount=15
In mid December the Norwegion government (or rather it's "intelligence" (cough) agencies) saw a video on YouTube about what they claim is "Nazi Propaganda" using the Norwegion antheme.
In reality it is a recruitment video for an in game alliance (THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NAZIS). http://www.nordreich.net/ The game (Cybernations): http://www.cybernations.net/
(The following is from here and is in Alech's words)
From Norwegain media:
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=146989
refers too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08YmRlQBI7U
Short version in English:
The Norwegian government is appealed that the Norwegian national anthem has been abused by what they call Nazi-propaganda. The Nazi-propaganda in question is a Nordreich PR film on YouTube.
According to the article the Norwegian state department and Police are now looking into the matter.
Translation into English;
"Ja, vi elsker" in nazi movie
Strong reaction from UD (Foreign Ministry)
Berlin (VG) With "Ja, vi elsker" and Hitler-propaganda, far-right movements in Europe attempt to recruit members.
(Picture)
Text under picture: Critical: Bjørn Tore Godal wants to end the practice of misusing Norwegian symbols in Germany.
Both the Foreign Department, the Police Security Service and the Norwegian embassy in Berlin are reacting strongly towards the misuse of the Norwegian national anthem and other symbols.
The reason is a video at Youtube.com, where "Ja Vi Elsker" is played in the background, at the same time as propaganda from among other countries, Hitlerite Germany is on the screen.
The video references to another site, Nordreich, on multiple occasions. According to experts Nordreich is a forum for extreme right movements. The webpage is supposed to be based in Germany.
The Foreign Department are quite critical to the video. In a letter to Youtube they demand that it be moved immediately.
- We condemn usage of Norwegian symbols in a way that can give associations to rightist environments, Kaja Halvorsen, advisor to the Communications Unit, tells VG.
A Norwegian expert, who because of his job cannot tell the public his name and work place, has reviewed the video thoroughly for VG.
- There is no doubt what this is about. Those who have made the video have knowledge of the symbols and know what they have done, he says.
Nazi references
The video contains, among other things:
* References to the NSDAP in Germany, which Adolf Hitler led and brought to power.
* A map of Hitlers empire
* Hitlers fleet at sea (this is wrong, there are far too many capital ships in that picture (*Prince: WW1 ships*))
* The Norwegian odalsrune, which symbolises heritage, family and inheritage and is often used as a nazi symbol.
* A modified version of the Imperial German flag, which has been cut-pasted with the Norwegian and Prussian flags and given an odalsrune with angeled legs, a symbol that goes alongside the swastika.
* A symbol referring to the Iron Cross, a military decoration issued when Germany is at war.
* A constant background playing of "Ja Vi Elsker", which is also the title of the film
- Security in danger
- The groups behind these films are getting better organised constantly. My point of view is that they are putting national security at risk, the expert says.
UD (The Foreign Department) has lately had to handle several cases where Norwegian symbols have been misused, among other things the controversial "Thor Steinar"-collection. The problem is biggest in Germany.
- What we can see can not be characterised as a global tendency, but because we live in a global worldrolleyes where we all know what Norway stands for, we choose to be active to prevent a larger spread.
Ambassador to Berlin Bjørn Tore Godal hopes that German authorities will aid him in the struggle to end the misusage.
- Unacceptable
- I haven't met one German politician who hasn't reacted correctly to this. To take jucidial steps from here does seem to be going a bit far, he says.
Godal says clearly that the embassy will strike harder against more misusage of Norwegian symbols.
- It is completely unacceptable. We can not accept that symbols of Norwegian democracy are used in connection with these environments, he says.
Nordreich's counter statement;
Sigmund Ceowulf said:Well what an interesting morning. I make breakfast, put on a pot of coffee, sit down on my computer to enjoy another morning of screwing around on cybernations and tending to my totally non real life related cybernations alliance, and oh dear......what's this? Norway has launched an investigation into us after featuring us on the front page of a norwegian news service about how we are slandering their national anthem with neo nazi related imagery.
According to their claims that 'The webpage is supposed to be based in Germany' for a 'far right organization attempting to recruit people in europe through youtube' is absolutely ridiculous. You'd think the tags on the video in question of 'cybernations alliance' would be enough to tip them off that this is in fact a game clan, and nothing more, but nope I guess not; the trigger happy guilt obliged peoples of northern europe must use a shoot first, think later policy with those they suspect of harboring 'far right' viewpoints and ideology.
Just to clear our image, and get these fools off our backs I thought I'd like to clarify a few things.
* This is an internet game called cybernations (http://www.cybernations.net) a game that revolves around player created alliances. Of which Nordreich is one, with around 240 members.
* We are in no way at all a real life far right movement, we proclaim germanic nationalism within the game, in character. Even if many members to hold certain views in real life, it is totally unrelated to the game, and it is none of your business anyhow, as in america we have freedom of speech, and do not imprison people for being nationalists or questioning historical events.
* If the main problem you have against us is the video, we can assure you it will be taken down ASAP as soon as it's creator returns from vacation. He left around last week and should be returning soon.
* If we in America made news articles for every time an online video 'misused' our beloved national icons, anthems and cultural tendencies, there would never be any room to fit significant, real news into the paper, as it would be filled with countless cases of this so called slander. Get used to it Norway and Germany, you can not police the thoughts of the world.
* We at Nordreich apologize for the creation of the video, and any 'harm' it may have caused to the mentally impaired and their outlook of your country, but we created it with no ill intentions, and as said before, it will be removed as soon as possible. Our apologies. But we will not apologize for anything else, and your horrible intelligence service that doesn't know how to read the facts, but instead jumps to conclusions by only seeing what they want to see. For shame. Truly shocking that anyone would resort to church burning satanism in your beloved land of free speech and intellectual open mindedness.
Now, to end this announcement on a note of forgiveness and cooperation; we sincerely hope that we can end this debacle on a positive basis and end the tension. I have already addressed your key concerns and have hopefully put them at ease. If you have any concerns, then go ahead and make an account on our forums and use this thread to communicate with us, and we will do our best to respond in a civilized, respectful manner.
Thank you for your time. And the article too, it made me 'LOL'
Sincerely,
Nordreich
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Needless to say Norway has become the laughing stock of CN. Also the Iron cross has been used in WW1 and that was DEFINATELY before the Nazis.
EDIT: And this; http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4943984&postcount=15