Nuremberg Laws v2

[luiz]

The world is about to be presented with a new piece of outrageously racist and absurd laws that separates the nation in races and makes race a central point of national politics. But this time those Laws are not coming from Nuremberg. They come from the most corrupted and evil city in the Universe: Brasília.
Below, I will quote and translate some parts of the "Statute of Racial Equality"(gotta love newspeak!), the brazilian version of the Nuremberg Laws that already passed through the Commission of Constitution and Justice of the Senate and will be voted this week in the Congress. And they will very likely pass, since our coward cogressmen are scared to death by the bullies of the so-called "Black Movements" that label anyone who opposes them as racists(the irony!).

Art. 48. A inclusão do quesito cor/raça, a ser coletado de acordo
com a autoclassificação, será obrigatória em todos os registros administrativos
direcionados aos empregadores e aos trabalhadores do setor
privado e do setor público, tais como:
I – formulários de admissão e demissão no emprego;
II – formulários de acidente de trabalho;
III – instrumentos administrativos do SINE – Sistema Nacional de
Emprego, ou órgão que lhe venha a suceder;
IV – Relação Anual de Informações Sociais – RAIS, ou registro
que lhe venha a suceder;
V – formulários da Previdência Social;
VI – todos os inquéritos do IBGE ou de órgão que lhe venha a
suceder

This article states that every brazilian will be forced to declare his "color/race" in lots of documents - stuff like admission in a job, social security forms, and even accident forms. Not only it is clearly illegal to force people to tell their race, I don't see what this can possibily achieve besides dividing society into races.

Art. 52. Fica estabelecida a cota mínima de vinte por cento para
a população afro-brasileira no preenchimento das vagas relativas:
I – aos concursos para investidura em cargos e empregos públicos
na administração pública federal, estadual, distrital e municipal,
direta e indireta;
II – aos cursos de graduação em todas as instituições de educação
superior do território nacional;
III – aos contratos do Fundo de Financiamento ao Estudante do
Ensino Superior (FIES).
Parágrafo único. Na inscrição, o candidato declara enquadrar-se
nas regras asseguradas na presente lei.
Art. 53. Acrescente-se ao art. 10 da Lei 9.504, de 30 de setembro
de 1997, o § 3o-A, com a seguinte redação:
“Art. 10. ...........................................................................
..........................................................................................
§ 3o-A. Do número de vagas resultante das regras previstas
neste artigo, cada partido ou coligação deverá reservar
o mínimo de trinta por cento para candidaturas de afrobrasileiros.
...............................................................................(NR)”
Art. 54. As empresas com mais de 20 empregados manterão uma
cota de no mínimo vinte por cento para trabalhadores afro-brasileiros.

This part states that a minimum of 20% of all public jobs, all admission in any university(public or private!) and that of all jobs in any company with over 20 employees must be occupied by afro-brazilians!
This monstruosity speaks for itself.
Let's not even get into the fact that in some cities in Southern Brazil, there are no blacks. I'm guessing companies there will have some trouble(or they'll just import blacks - again, how ironic).

Art. 55. A produção veiculada pelos órgãos de comunicação valorizará
a herança cultural e a participação dos afro-brasileiros na história
do País.
Art. 56. Os filmes e programas veiculados pelas emissoras de televisão
deverão apresentar imagens de pessoas afro-brasileiras em
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proporção não inferior a vinte por cento do número total de atores e
figurantes.
Parágrafo único. Para a determinação da proporção de que trata
este artigo será considerada a totalidade dos programas veiculados
entre a abertura e o encerramento da programação diária.
Art. 57. As peças publicitárias destinadas à veiculação nas emissoras
de televisão e em salas cinematográficas deverão apresentar
imagens de pessoas afro-brasileiras em proporção não inferior a vinte
por cento do número total de atores e figurantes.

This is my favourite part. It starts by stating that all productions of the media shall now value the afro-brazilian contribution to the history of the country. It goes on by stating that all movies and TV programs shall now have a minimum of 20% of afro-brazilian actors! So, if you want to make a movie about medieval Japan, tough luck. A movie version of Hamlet? Well you can always adapt it to the "Prince of Mauritania". This law is so authoritarian and abhorent that it makes me sick. It goes on saying that all commercial adds must also feature a minimum of 20% of afro-descendants.

If this Law passes in Congress, and I'm sure it will, I will start seriously thinking about emmigration. I have no desire to live in a country of institutionalised racism and insanity.

The full Statute(in Portuguese), can be found in here

 

[Tycoon101]

Wow... Thank God that I'm in America. That is horrible, I feel very sorry for anyone who lives there. That is extremely racist.

 

[luiz]

Wow... Thank God that I'm in America. That is horrible, I feel very sorry for anyone who lives there. That is extremely racist.

Ironically, many people who support this statute are saying that it is based after the "succesful" american experience of affirmative-action.
Nevermind that fact that american AA is still wrong, those people don't seem to realise that what they're proposing is many, many times bigger that what goes on in the States.

 

[Rhymes]

Is there a reason for this? Is there a strong afro movement raising hell and making demands?
Whats the story?

 

[luiz]

Is there a reason for this? Is there a strong afro movement raising hell and making demands?
Whats the story?

That's the worst part - there isn't. There is a very small group, named Educafro, and countless even smaller groups, that for at least 15 years have been making some noise about it. But the population never cared, because nobody saw this happening and because the media always painted them in a rather positive light. So this group managed to convince one Senator, who is a member of the current ruling party, to propose thise Statute. It passed in the Commission of Constitution and Justice simply because the senators who opposed it were scared of beign labelled as racist (Educafro never debates, they just call their opponents racist and stage protests where their members dress as slaves and chain themselves up in front of some Uni or public building). That's also the reason why it is likely to pass in the Congress as well.

There is absolutely no public outcry demanding this insanity. Most people oppose it, but say nothing either because they are unimformed(the media is not even trying to inform anything about this) or because they too are scared of beign labelled racists.

 

[newfangle]

Funny, I know a few hardcore leftists that actively defend Brazil's government. This doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of egalitarianism.

 

[blackheart]

Funny, I know a few hardcore leftists that actively defend Brazil's government. This doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of egalitarianism.

Very few who claim to defend those values actually are.

 

[downtown]

Brazil's goverment sucks, and so does this proposal. Why you'd want to model something after American AA (which, even though I defend the practice, can't be called "sucsessful" really, because if it was, we could get rid of it), I don't understand.

Hope a party with some sense takes control of the country soon. Thats rough Luiz.

 

[luiz]

Brazil's goverment sucks, and so does this proposal. Why you'd want to model something after American AA (which, even though I defend the practice, can't be called "sucsessful" really, because if it was, we could get rid of it), I don't understand.

Indeed. And what they're doing is actually much worse than american AA, it is almost incomparably worse.

Hope a party with some sense takes control of the country soon. Thats rough Luiz.

I'm starting to lose hope.

 

[Till]

How is it determined which race one belongs to?

 

[luiz]

How is it determined which race one belongs to?

Indeed that's very tricky, specially in a mixed country such as Brazil.
According to the government proposal, self-identification would be the rule. However they also say that will punish people who lie. Which leaves room to the question, how will they prove that anyone is lying?

The University of Brasília, that has a racial quota system, takes a photo from all applicants. The photo is then analysed by a group of "experts" who decide if the applicant lied about his race or not. This is patently racist and unscientific.

I'm also very curious as to what constitute an "afro-descedant". According to modern science, didn't we all come from Africa?
And what about someone who looks white but has a black great-grandmother? That's very common in Brazil.

 

[nonconformist]

I think you may be exaggerating somewhat witht he title

 

[Mise]

That's rediculous...

 

[Till]

Indeed that's very tricky, specially in a mixed country such as Brazil.
According to the government proposal, self-identification would be the rule. However they also say that will punish people who lie. Which leaves room to the question, how will they prove that anyone is lying?

The University of Brasília, that has a racial quota system, takes a photo from all applicants. The photo is then analysed by a group of "experts" who decide if the applicant lied about his race or not. This is patently racist and unscientific.

I'm also very curious as to what constitute an "afro-descedant". According to modern science, didn't we all come from Africa?
And what about someone who looks white but has a black great-grandmother? That's very common in Brazil.

A few years ago, i found a schoolbook from the 30-40s in my grandfather's attic. It had a whole section about races and how to spot Jews based on facial features.This sounds scarily similar.

Maybe it is a German thing, but over here the consensus is that races are an arbitrary concept. It seems wiser to make income the criteria for affirmative actions.

 

[downtown]

I'm starting to lose hope.

Well, you're welcome here

 

[The Last Conformist]

This part states that a minimum of 20% of all public jobs, all admission in any university(public or private!) and that of all jobs in any company with over 20 employees must be occupied by afro-brazilians!
This monstruosity speaks for itself.
Let's not even get into the fact that in some cities in Southern Brazil, there are no blacks. I'm guessing companies there will have some trouble(or they'll just import blacks - again, how ironic).

I predict an increase in the porportion of businesses that've got exactly 20 employees ... as well as of corporate lawyers who advise on how you split up your company in technically separate ones with 20 employees each.

I'm not familiar with the Brazilian political system - is there any constitutional court or the like that can strike this kind of silliness down? If it passes, is it likely to be enforced?

 

[Xanikk999]

Ironically, many people who support this statute are saying that it is based after the "succesful" american experience of affirmative-action.
Nevermind that fact that american AA is still wrong, those people don't seem to realise that what they're proposing is many, many times bigger that what goes on in the States.

I agree

AA is reverse racism in disguise and we dont need it anymore its outdated.
Frankly if i was a minority i would feel insulted that i need training wheels in the real world to get into skilled professions or good colleges.

Minorities are just as talented and dedicated (if not more dedicated) then non-minorities.

 

[luiz]

I predict an increase in the porportion of businesses that've got exactly 20 employees ... as well as of corporate lawyers who advise on how you split up your company in technically separate ones with 20 employees each.

That sounds very likely.

I'm not familiar with the Brazilian political system - is there any constitutional court or the like that can strike this kind of silliness down? If it passes, is it likely to be enforced?

The Supreme Federal Court should strike it down, since it goes clearly against the Constitution (the Constitution states that nobody shall be be discriminated because of race or color - and lots of other stuff). However the Supreme Court Judges are nominated by the president, and Lula already nominated 4 or 5 of them. Since they allowed the quota system in the Public Unis, I doubt they will strike this down. They [the pro-quota Judges] argue that reparations against past injustices does not constitue discrimination.