I haven't seen you present one yet that you haven't retreated from.it is discrimination, you are right. But discrimination based on real concerns
I haven't seen you present one yet that you haven't retreated from.it is discrimination, you are right. But discrimination based on real concerns
I think he's saying that the bigots won't have the discipline to deal with the new openness.
You need one?Does CNN offer reading comprehension classes?
New Angle: Why the hell would the levels of gay sex rise to dangerous levels just because gay men can serve openly? Last I checked, anti-fraternization regs still applies to same sex acts, and will after DADT is repealed. So yes, it's going to be a bit easier for a gay man to find potential partners, but he still has to go through the risk of propositioning and then carrying out an affair. In all likelyhood, the levels of homosexual fraternization won't rise to any higher level than that of heterosexual fraternization. And since gays only make up a small fraction of the military, the total number of problem cases should be minimal.
capslock, may I please direct you towards this post by Miles Teg that could do with your attention:
Actually, Miles has it wrong. There isnt really a 'fraternization reg' per se, but its a chapter in AR 600-20, Army Command Policy. What it will result in is a huge explosion of sexual harassment and sexual assault cases for my office. Jolly was directly wrong in assuming it will lessen the JAG workload, in fact, if it did get repealed, we anticipate the opposite.
I can see it now. Gay guy makes pass at 11B10 and gets a knuckle sandwich. We end up kicking the gay guy out for sexual harassment and we also have to kick out the 11B for assault. Multiply that by thousands. Yeah, lets hear it for how much more effective the repeal of DADT has made our military.....![]()
Yes, because all Gay people are raging nymphomaniacs. Don't be a fool, homosexuals can practise restraint, much more so then heterosexuals, due to the fact that they infact, have to keep their sexuality, and sex hidden, or not acting on their feelings.
why not focus on stopping those soldiers from punching a guy for making a pass at them? i understand some need to prove their masculinity, but they should just think of it as an ugly girl hitting on them. no way they would act on it, but still a compliment.
Well from what you've said it looks like a possible problem wouldn't be the repeal of DADT so much as a lack of discipline, self-control and tolerance amongst the services. The blame for that has gotta lie with poor training, not with the repeal of a discriminatory policy.
Or, there might be another solution to go along with a simple repeal, if that doesn't quite satisfy you. Simple make fraternisation with members of ones units against regulation. Unless you're going to use the 'gay people wouldn't be able to control themselves' argument, then I don't see why this wouldn't be effective.
I think gay = abnormal.
Why did I say that just now? Completely out-of-context and off-topic? Your reaction is the answer. Most of you dislike the fact that I typed the above. You don't like me going around saying "gay is abnormal" to everybody. And there's the figurative rub. If gays get to serve openly, so do homophobes. Would you like me to wear my opinion on my sleeve, or keep my trap shut?
Don't ask, don't tell.
Its not poor training, but simply the environment we have been working/training under for decades. Its not going to be easily broken....if at all.
Why shouldnt people of equal or close ranks be allowed to date? Current rules allow for it, within certain limits. Not sure why people think that would have to be changed if DADT is repealed....