OK, so we found WMDs

[Marla_Singer]

On an off note, I've known people who've returned from Iraq and people who've served few weeks at the Baghdad airport. They've told me that we have indeed found WMDs in Iraq, including sites to make the weapons. It was on the news not too long ago that we found a place to make chemical weapons. These same people (actually one guy who worked at the airport) told me that prior to the invasion satelites were following a large convoy of trucks heading into Syria from Iraq.

Now if they were right about the chemical weapons, as they were, was he then correct about those trucks?

Well, if what your pals told you was true, then it would indeed be a breaking news ! It would actually justify everything and prove that the US casus belli was serious.

Unfortunately...

 

[Tulkas12]

On an off note, I've known people who've returned from Iraq and people who've served few weeks at the Baghdad airport. They've told me that we have indeed found WMDs in Iraq, including sites to make the weapons. It was on the news not too long ago that we found a place to make chemical weapons. These same people (actually one guy who worked at the airport) told me that prior to the invasion satelites were following a large convoy of trucks heading into Syria from Iraq.

Now if they were right about the chemical weapons, as they were, was he then correct about those trucks?

I have believed so for a very long time, but for me its irrelevant to what needs to be done in the area in the long run anyways. another blemish on American foriegn policy doesn't hurt near as bad as people make it seem. People forgived us after escalating the Arms Race in the 80s after the dust of the collapsing USSR had cleared. Well most forgave us.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Basketcase, don't start on this please, cause we're reaching the level of elementary school now.

I won't ask to today's Americans to devote their life to France simply because our Monarch sent few battalions in New England in the 1770's. That's not what independence means. What had given to the US their great reputation worldwide after ww2 was actually to give back independence to the countries they've liberated. Independence doesn't mean eternal devotion, so don't complain about European countries independence today cause in doing so you're destroying the most beautiful achievement in the US History.

Damn, Marla! That's most insightful thing I've heard all month long. And no, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm serious.
That's a real sobering comment that i hadnt thought about. Then again, it kinda works against you in a way: you guys can disagree with us today because we liberated you so long ago. I'm also glad to see that not every European has forgotten about our contribution to your history, either.

 

[Neomega]

On an off note, I've known people who've returned from Iraq

me too, good for you.

and people who've served few weeks at the Baghdad airport. They've told me that we have indeed found WMDs in Iraq, including sites to make the weapons.

Oh yeah, hmm, funny. There has never been an invitation to any international team to verify this, but hell, he was at Bagdhad International for a couple of weeks, that means he has top secret clearance.

It was on the news not too long ago that we found a place to make chemical weapons.

link?

These same people (actually one guy who worked at the airport) told me that prior to the invasion satelites were following a large convoy of trucks heading into Syria from Iraq.

Now if they were right about the chemical weapons, as they were, was he then correct about those trucks?

Oh, and he controlled the satellites too?

they aren't right about chemical weapons. Those are not the weapons they were talking about, and everyone knows it. Except the Bushpologists.

 

[MobBoss]

Alright then. Let's pretend Colombia is developping the nuclear weapon. If we turn out wrong we can always justify the invasion in saying we've found illegal coca crops in the Colombian countryside...

I agree that UN weapons inspectors are probably inept enough to NOT find coca crops in Colombia.

 

[Tulkas12]

Ok here you go

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-115519-3700r.htm

Its not like we are making this stuff up. . .

 

[Tulkas12]

me too, good for you.




Oh yeah, hmm, funny. There has never been an invitation to any international team to verify this, but hell, he was at Bagdhad International for a couple of weeks, that means he has top secret clearance.





link?



Oh, and he controlled the satellites too?

they aren't right about chemical weapons. Those are not the weapons they were talking about, and everyone knows it. Except the Bushpologists.

Here you go man. . .can we leave the flaming out of this, not everyone here is a bushite.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-115519-3700r.htm

 

[MobBoss]

link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html

BAGHDAD, Aug. 13 -- U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday.

Monday's early morning raid found 11 precursor agents, "some of them quite dangerous by themselves," a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, said in Baghdad.

/Boom headshot.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Alright then. Let's pretend Colombia is developping the nuclear weapon. If we turn out wrong we can always justify the invasion in saying we've found illegal coca crops in the Colombian countryside...

There ya go Marla, now youre thinking like an American! ( insert sarcasm symbol here )

 

[Tulkas12]

LOL, I think this thread is becoming devastaing. . . play by play brouight you by Tulkas and his coalition of the supporters. LOL

 

[Neomega]

Ok here you go

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-115519-3700r.htm

Its not like we are making this stuff up. . .

Oh, great, now the russians are in on it too.

The photographs bolster the claims of Pentagon official John A. Shaw, who told The Washington Times on Wednesday that recent intelligence reports indicate Russian special forces units took part in a sophisticated dispersal operation from January 2003 to March 2003 to move key weapons out of Iraq.

Note: this story is over 2 years old, and there is no proof those facilities are chemical or nuclear weapons labs. we are there now, we cna proive they were.. but, hmmm....

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html



/Boom headshot.

more than a headshot, thats a NO-SCOPE!

 

[Tulkas12]

Oh, great, now the russians are in on it too.



Note: this story is over 2 years old

Does that mean that it isn't relevant. Maybe the ignorance of it has more to do with agenda's in your media.

 

[Arcades057]

Neomega:

I already said, many times in the past, that old dilapidated shells were found. It's a red Herring. That is not what we were sold the war on.

We went because a) Saddam had broken the 91 accords b) to free the Iraqi people (this is what people on the ground were told, as told to me BY people who were there; as such I take their word over anyone else's) c) for WMDs. Saddam bought off the people in the UN so as to prevent an invasion. WE enforced the UN's '91 ruling. We DID in fact liberate the people of Iraq from Saddam. Who now will liberate them from themselves, only time will tell. We HAVE found WMDs, old or not. They are still deadly, they are still a threat, they are now in our hands.

I was only showing how illogical it is to mention the name of a man who killed 6 million people systematically and started a war that cost the lives of hundreds of millions, to the situation between the US and Iraq. Obviously you missed that, and think by invoking the name of the evil Hitler against those you disagree with, you can somehow win an argument. It's crap, and it's disrespectful to those who fought against Hitler, and the millions who were slaughtered buy him.

So by what you say, the two California bank robbers who clothed themselves in armor and fired 1000s of rounds from AK-47s can't be thought of in the same light as the killers at Columbine? Just because they TRIED to kill people and the kids at Columbine DID? The difference between Hitler and Saddam is negligible; there were not millions of Jews living in Iraq. Saddam was not surrounded by weak people who did not want a war; America had a strong president every time he showed aggression. When he invaded Kuwait, Bush the elder was there; when he spouted off at the mouth and broke the no fly zone, Clinton was there to bomb him into the Industrial Age; when he continued his little games, Bush junior was there to nab him and end his reign before he could do something that the world would regret... again.

Dude, nobody wants to argue whether Saddam is Hitler, or George Bush is Hitler. It's a stupid argument, because neither of them come close to Hitler.

Absolute power corrupts absolutley. While I do agree neither Saddam nor Bush are close to Hitler in terms of lives taken, I feel that had all situations been equal, Saddam would have been. Had Saddam been faced with the same situations and possibilities as Hitler, he'd have gone the same route, there is no doubt in my mind. Would Bush have? Anyone who has ever met him talks about what a good-hearted man he is. No, I doubt he would have become a Hitler, and I think anyone with a clear-head would agree.

Hitler Hitler Jew Jew Nazi Nazi Heil Heil

I have no idea what that means, besides maybe a veiled attack at Jews?

 

[Neomega]

Post-Invasion Cache Could Have Been For Use in Weapons

note the could have been, in your story, MobBoss


fertilizer could have been used for Bombs, uranium could have been used for nukes, and beans could have been used for ricin.

 

[Neomega]

Absolute power corrupts absolutley. While I do agree neither Saddam nor Bush are close to Hitler....

then stop invoking his name.

 

[Arcades057]

LoL, thanks Tulkas and others for those links. I can't be arsed to find them. Someone get the link on the couple tons of uranium that was found in Iraq too.

 

[CivCube]

Whatever. The same story still plays on between both sides: Right is Might, and Left is Not Right.

Now if you excuse me, there are more pressing issues to ponder on...like Darfur.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

and beans could have been used for ricin.

Castor beans, yes. but castor beans also make castor oil, a perfectly digestible cooking oil. There is no safe side-product for mustard gas

 

[Neomega]

Does that mean that it isn't relevant. Maybe the ignorance of it has more to do with agenda's in your media.

Oh Geez, I forgot, the "MSM" is in a huge conspiracy to cover up the truth. It's what "they" don't want you to hear.

Yes, damn Hollywood, and it's mainstream media, first they cheer the war, and then when no WMD's are found, (except these measly 500 old shells) they turn their back on Bush.

Damn, that MSM cabal, I bet their headquareters is somewhere around Denver, so all the papers can meet together and destroy our morale and our troops, because they hate America.






A 2 year old story, with no follow up, is a rumor. I here Saddam bought yellowcake from Niger, that 40,000 Iraqi troops were captured in the third day of Gulf War II, and that Frogboy has discovered bigfoot.