Paedaphiles' brains 'different'

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Scientists say distinct differences in the brain activity of paedophiles have been found using scanning technology.

A Yale University team found activity in parts of paedophiles' brains were lower than in other volunteers when shown adult, erotic material.

The journal Biological Psychiatry said this was the first real-time evidence of differences in thought patterns.

A forensic psychologist from the UK said drug treatments for paedophilia might be possible.

There is increasing evidence that problems in certain areas of the brain may contribute to feelings of sexual attraction to children.

In a few cases, patients with a brain tumour in a particular part of the brain have developed such feelings, only for them to go away when the tumour was removed.

The Yale study used functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI), a technique which allows the activity within the brain to be recorded as the patient is thinking.

They found that when known patients with paedophilic feelings were asked to look at adult pornography, a part of the brain called the hypothalamus, which is known to be involved in arousal and hormone release, was less active than in other volunteers.

More generally, the more extreme the paedophilic behaviour was rated, the lower the activation in a part of the brain called the "frontal cortex".

However, Dr John Krystal, the journal's editor, said he didn't know whether this particular pattern of brain activity could be used to predict someone's risk of paedophilia.

But he said: "The findings provide clues to the complexity of this disorder, and this deficit may predispose individuals who are vulnerable to paedophilia to seek other forms of stimulation."

Drug treatment

Lead researcher Dr Georg Northoff added: "Our results may thus be seen as the first step towards establishing a neurobiology of paedophilia which ultimately may contribute to the development of new and effective means of therapies for this debilitating disorder."

In the UK, many experts are looking to the biology of the brain to explain not just paedophilia, but other types of compulsive criminality.

Dr Keith Ashcroft, a forensic psychologist at the Centre for Forensic Neuroscience, in Lancashire, said that other evidence pointed to problems in the pre-frontal cortex of the brain being linked to paedophilic thoughts.

He said: "Sexual behaviour is very complex, especially as some people are not aroused by visual stimuli, but by touch instead.

"I am campaigning for the use of anti-schizophrenia drugs in paedophilia, as these act on a similar part of the brain and may be useful."

Quite an interesting piece of research...

Of course... how will society react if the big bad boogiemen are actually recognizably insane (mental defect by internal cause) and thus not responsible for their actions?
 
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Quite an interesting piece of research...

Of course... how will society react if the big bad boogiemen are actually recognizably insane (mental defect by internal cause) and thus not responsible for their actions?

Er, mentally ill does not equate to being unresponsible. Plenty of pedophiles control their feelings, urges, what have you. Those who do not, and know their actions to be wrong (or judged wrong by society) are indeed responsible for the trauma they inflict upon another.
 
Er, mentally ill does not equate to being unresponsible. Plenty of pedophiles control their feelings, urges, what have you. Those who do not, and know their actions to be wrong (or judged wrong by society) are indeed responsible for the trauma they inflict upon another.

Mental illnesses can remove criminal responsibility though, which is what I'm talking about, whether moral responsibility can be applied is a whole other issue :)
 
A Yale University team found activity in parts of paedophiles' brains were lower than in other volunteers when shown adult, erotic material.
So basically they don't get turned on very much by regular porn? This is news?

Of course... how will society react if the big bad boogiemen are actually recognizably insane (mental defect by internal cause) and thus not responsible for their actions?
I'd still think pedophiles are responsible for their actions, morally and legally, even if there is a biological predisposition towards being attracted to children.
 
Er, mentally ill does not equate to being unresponsible. Plenty of pedophiles control their feelings, urges, what have you. Those who do not, and know their actions to be wrong (or judged wrong by society) are indeed responsible for the trauma they inflict upon another.

Exactly. I'm sick of all this they are ill so we need to fix them crapola.
 
Of course... how will society react if the big bad boogiemen are actually recognizably insane (mental defect by internal cause) and thus not responsible for their actions?

If they're "not responsible for their actions," that's all the more reason to lock 'em up.

Obviously, it would be preferable to develop some treatment for this.
 
Exactly. I'm sick of all this they are ill so we need to fix them crapola.

Do you hold someone responsible for actions outside of their control... say a diabetic in an automatous where there is absolutely no control?

Do you just lock up a mentally ill person who killed/attacked someone while quite literally out of their mind? I'd suggest the better course is holding them and treating them, they're a risk while they're ill, not more inherently dangerous than any other person.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7006628.stm



Quite an interesting piece of research...

Of course... how will society react if the big bad boogiemen are actually recognizably insane (mental defect by internal cause) and thus not responsible for their actions?

I've long suspected that the cause of pedophillia is similar to those of homosexuality, ie some sort of defect in the hypothalamus.

In some males they miss an androgen boost during their fetal development period, and their hypothalamus is not changed from the default female setting to the enlarged male setting.

No clue on the specifics on why/how pedophillia develops, but I guess that there is something similar.
 
Do you hold someone responsible for actions outside of their control... say a diabetic in an automatous where there is absolutely no control?

Do you just lock up a mentally ill person who killed/attacked someone while quite literally out of their mind? I'd suggest the better course is holding them and treating them, they're a risk while they're ill, not more inherently dangerous than any other person.

I hold people who rape children 100% responsible. They can control them selves and if they can't they are an imminent threat and need to locked up or removed permanently. To suggest they be healed is naive at best. And comparing child raping deviants to diabetics is just ridiculous. You can call then "ill" and give them hugs, it doesn't change that that they rape children. I'd rather help society and protect the masses of children then coddle a monster.
 
Good I tottaly called this. I was thourouhgly annoyed with that handling of that guy recentley in California. Though. The 30 foot restraining order was unescasarry and extreme.
 
I hold people who rape children 100% responsible. They can control them selves and if they can't they are an imminent threat and need to locked up or removed permanently. To suggest they be healed is naive at best. And comparing child raping deviants to diabetics is just ridiculous. You can call then "ill" and give them hugs, it doesn't change that that they rape children. I'd rather help society and protect the masses of children then coddle a monster.

Yeah but not all pedophiles are child rapists. Since, ya know, pedophilia is strictly defined as sexual attraction towards prepubescent children, not necessarily acting on it - that's what people are saying that therapy should be used as intervention, not after an actual crime. I don't think anyone is saying that they arn't responsible for their actions, though. Predisposition is not the same thing as a cause.

Locking someone up simply because they are a pedophile despite making all measures to not act on that desire screams of thoughtcrimes, though.
 
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So will they now use this new information to justify their actions?
 
Yes because all pedophiles are evil and are out to rape children. This will not cahnge the numbers that rape children at all.
 
Yes because all pedophiles are evil and are out to rape children. This will not cahnge the numbers that rape children at all.

Your statement is perfectly correct while being in its own way completely irrelevant. I fail to see the correlation between discovering that pedophiles' brains are wired differently and instances of the number of people who are inclined to rape children.
 
So will they now use this new information to justify their actions?

Perhaps, but it's not a good justification. Let's look at obesity as a counterexample. There's genetic predisposition towards obesity, such as a lower metabolism, making the choice that much unbalanced, but ultimately it's still the responsibility of the person to get fat in the first place. It may make it more sympathetic, but it's not even remotely a true justification if the deed is done.
 
Yeah but not all pedophiles are child rapists. Since, ya know, pedophilia is strictly defined as sexual attraction towards prepubescent children, not necessarily acting on it - that's what people are saying that therapy should be used as intervention, not after an actual crime. I don't think anyone is saying that they arn't responsible for their actions, though. Predisposition is not the same thing as a cause.

Locking someone up simply because they are a pedophile despite making all measures to not act on that desire screams of thoughtcrimes, though.

And how many pedophiles are found out before they offend by raping kids or possessing child porn and got caught. Or caught for something else and discovered? How many are just gonna go in and get "help"?
 
Your statement is perfectly correct while being in its own way completely irrelevant. I fail to see the correlation between discovering that pedophiles' brains are wired differently and instances of the number of people who are inclined to rape children.

The pedophiles who rape children are bad people. The pedophiles who aren't bad people don't rape children. The pedophiles who aren't bad people won't rape children because of this report.
 
And how many pedophiles are found out before they offend by raping kids or possessing child porn and got caught. Or caught for something else and discovered? How many are just gonna go in and get "help"?

No child rapists go in to get help or get caught. That's what makes them child rapists. Their is no legala justifications for locking up pedophiles for thought crimes. There is even less of an argument for locking up pedophiles with this report.
 
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