Paedaphiles' brains 'different'

[Pasi Nurminen]

A. Godwin's Law.
B. Maybe so, but that's still misrepresentation. Bill was making a sarcastic comment and providing false qualification (I will admit that I don't actually know the proper term, and justification seemed close) with the specific intent to make you angry. At least, that is my interpretation of the events. Now, with your truncated version, nobody can tell anything. In fact, that's just a simple quote. You don't even show that there's more to the story. And that's misrepresentation.

At least, the very least you could do is put an ellipsis in there. They look like this: ... and they help people get their facts straight.

So? He said exactly what I put in my signature. He declared child pornography to be awesome. That's all I'm saying here. If someone is so daft as to think that Bill's being serious, as we all know Bill to be incapable of anything other than dull sarcasm, that's their problem; likewise, if someone sees something, takes it at face value, and fails to do their own research, not my problem. What I have provided is 100% true. I have spread no misinformation.

 

[woody60707]

Again, the fact of the matter is that he said "child porn = awesome." To say that there is justification for that (I believe the word you were looking for was qualification) is about the same as saying "holocaust = awesome + justification." What I provided is completely true in that he said exactly what is in my signature. I misrepresented nothing.

Well this is testable. Lets ask 10 people and ask them what they thought of bill when told he said "child porn = awesome." And then lets ask another 10 people what they thought of bill when told he said "child porn = awesome simply because it pisses off pasi"

Now if both groups come up with the same answer, then that shows you were right. Both if both groups come up with different answers, then you misrepresented what he said.

Care to take bets on the outcome?

 

[Appassionato]

They found that when known patients with paedophilic feelings were asked to look at adult pornography, a part of the brain called the hypothalamus, which is known to be involved in arousal and hormone release, was less active than in other volunteers.

Well, duuh. Not attracted to adults = no physical arrousal. Or vice versa. Same goes for any other sexual orientation.

More generally, the more extreme the paedophilic behaviour was rated, the lower the activation in a part of the brain called the "frontal cortex".

Makes sense, since the frontal cortex among other things is responsible for adjusting the brain's different stimuli in relation to what constitutes acceptable social behaviour. Low Frontal Cortex activity = socially unwanted behaviour slips through this filtering proces and reaches the expressive and conscious self.

 

[JZ_UK]

Well, duuh. Not attracted to adults = no physical arrousal. Or vice versa. Same goes for any other sexual orientation.

Not necessarily according to Freud's suggestion of inherent bisexuality, which seems quite reasonable to me... the article uses "lower arousal" which does indicate "some" rather than "none".

 

[woody60707]

Also most of what we see in the media about pedophiles, most noticeably Datelines Pedophile show aren't really pedophiles, but Ephebophiles(attracted to teenagers).

Is being attracted to teenagers also a metal illness? (open can O worms) Should they get treatment too? Should the laws stay the same for them if not metal illness, but changed for pedos to include treatment. Meaning now pedos get less jail then Ephebophilia for the same crime.

Side note 1. only on ***** would I find out what a Ephebophiles is.
Side note 2. I believe the OP may be a 4chanerd

 

[StarWorms]

So in a nutshell: Paedophiles have less activity in the part of the brain that corresponds to adult erotic material.

Well, that's what we'd expect to see anyway...

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

child porn is awesome, which is, in itself, entirely true.

This seems sig-worthy as well

 

[Bill3000]

Is being attracted to teenagers also a metal illness?

No, but only an idiot would have sex with them outside of the A/2 + 7 rule.

 

[Appassionato]

Not necessarily according to Freud's suggestion of inherent bisexuality, which seems quite reasonable to me... the article uses "lower arousal" which does indicate "some" rather than "none".

You are of course right. The hypothalamic "lower arousal" would perhaps be present also in "normal" (heterosexual) adults when shown child porn, homosexual porn, bestiality etc. that they conciously would deem appaling?

 

[StarWorms]

No, but only an idiot would have sex with them outside of the A/2 + 7 rule.

That rule is stupid though: A 13 year old can have sex with a 13 1/2 year old by that rule, but a 13 1/2 year old cannot have sex with said 13 year old.

 

[Merkinball]

The FBI is all over this thread...

 

[rog50k]

dudes your getting to serious calm down. we know they're scum but we don't really wanta waste time thinking bout it well not me.

 

[Elrohir]

So? He said exactly what I put in my signature. He declared child pornography to be awesome. That's all I'm saying here. If someone is so daft as to think that Bill's being serious, as we all know Bill to be incapable of anything other than dull sarcasm, that's their problem; likewise, if someone sees something, takes it at face value, and fails to do their own research, not my problem. What I have provided is 100% true. I have spread no misinformation.

Pasi, that's like saying Churchill said that "War will be smooth and easy". He technically said those words, but in the context of a larger statement that changes the meaning of the sentence entirely. You can't cut little snippets out of what someone says and change the meaning of the sentence and say that it is accurate.

Whatever.

 

[El_Machinae]

A neural corralate to pedophilic attraction does not mean that it's a neural correlate to a lack of self-control or a lack of comprehending consequences.

What most criminals (distinguishing criminals from non-criminals) suffer from are deficiencies in brain regions corresponding to concern for long-term consequences, or regions associated with being able to stave off pleasure. (Sometimes to empathy, but less strongly)

Criminal pedophiles likely have problems in both regions.

 

[JZ_UK]

Side note 1. only on ***** would I find out what a Ephebophiles is.
Side note 2. I believe the OP may be a 4chanerd

The OP does not frequent *****, cheers

 

[Bill3000]

That rule is stupid though: A 13 year old can have sex with a 13 1/2 year old by that rule, but a 13 1/2 year old cannot have sex with said 13 year old.

Well, because of that, it has the convenience of a necessary age of consent of 14.