Paris burning
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Verbose
Deity
OK, if one cuts through the US BS about "the surrender monkeys" then the fact is that the France has the largest and most powerful police forces in Europe — the greatest number of officers per capita and the CRS riot police is (in)famous, and then there are the semi-military gendarmes (the gendarmes mobiles do about the same things as the CRS).
If you ever get close to a situation where the CRS moves in, run like hell.
If the French authorities wants to try to strong arm their way through this situation they are in a better position to try it than in any other country in the EU.
The only reason it hasn't been tried is that they don't think it's the solution.
If you ever get close to a situation where the CRS moves in, run like hell.
If the French authorities wants to try to strong arm their way through this situation they are in a better position to try it than in any other country in the EU.
The only reason it hasn't been tried is that they don't think it's the solution.
Marla_Singer
United in diversity
The strong arm is pulled. More than 200 people have been incarcerated.Verbose said:
The thing people seems to not understand is that it's not about continuous violence, it's about few operations here or there. As I've said, a car is burnt, the cops arrive, they chase the jerks who've burnt the car, the kids flee, a new car is burnt in another place, etc... And that's this way during the whole night. Once the morning arrives, streets are calm again... when the night arrives, the little game starts again.
I also have to say that there are very few people actually rioting. It's not about a whole neighbourhood getting out in the streets. A minority of the kids of those areas (the most stupid of them) are going out to burn cars. Usually it's about groups of 20 people.
The Fjonis
Prince
I was surprised that nobody had posted the obvious civ-references before me!naziassbandit said:
't was only a question of time.
klazlo
Avatarless Sociologist
It seems to me that not everybody wants to unite in diversity... 
It's not what Paris burns, it's the Old (a.k.a. New Medieval) Europe. Burn, baby, burn!
Okay, seriously: This is a well-known social and political phenomenon: developed countries do receive a lot of immigrants who are usually in the lower classes ("dual labor market theory" if someone is interested). In many cases social exclusion (often based on race) leads to situations where there is no way for upward social mobility. Then, some event sparks riots like this.
The questions of course how well prepared is the society to integrate these people? Or just let the political establishment (which is a bunch of criminals in every country) make their games?
It's not what Paris burns, it's the Old (a.k.a. New Medieval) Europe. Burn, baby, burn!
Okay, seriously: This is a well-known social and political phenomenon: developed countries do receive a lot of immigrants who are usually in the lower classes ("dual labor market theory" if someone is interested). In many cases social exclusion (often based on race) leads to situations where there is no way for upward social mobility. Then, some event sparks riots like this.
The questions of course how well prepared is the society to integrate these people? Or just let the political establishment (which is a bunch of criminals in every country) make their games?
Shaihulud
Deity
I just came back from China, the news over there was that specifically targetted against Chinese business concerns in France, as 5 Chinese warehouses were burnt at different locations. Of course they didn't make much of other damage that happened, one sided news is always so worthless. France needs to get tougher with her rioters if I may say, force deportation or somrthing similar some politician will have to bite the bullet and put it across , but im sure that most of the people will fall in line and agree that its propablly for the best.
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
Yeah, it has also spread to different French cities now. And a flat was burned....
Great stuff for the immigrants's image. I bet after that they still wonder why employers aren't real eager to hire them. Hmmmm
Great stuff for the immigrants's image. I bet after that they still wonder why employers aren't real eager to hire them. Hmmmm
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
luiz said:
No your not supossed to call immigrant rioters bad names....because....then they get angry....or something
After Sarkozy said what he did, those guys did burn a lot more cars. And now everyone is mad at Sarkozy.....it seems the French still see things the wrong way round
Winner
Diverse in Unity
AceChilla said:No your not supossed to call immigrant rioters bad names....because....then they get angry....or something
After Sarkozy said what he did, those guys did burn a lot more cars. And now everyone is mad at Sarkozy.....it seems the French still see things the wrong way round
You're right, it's unbelievable :shakehead
Winner
Diverse in Unity
kronic said:It's a good thing though that Sarkozy loses his good reputation. Finally.
Don't be so confident. I am sure he said aloud exactly what many French think but are afraid of saying that themselves.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Call in the armed forces,implement Kill on Sight if commiting crime.Problem solved in a week.
I didn't say that with regard to his comment. But he obviously failed to find a solution so far (or may even have made serious mistakes in the past). And that will backfire on him. I'd rather have de Villepin than Sarkozy as the next French president (and so far it doesn't look like the left can win in 2007).Winner said:
Winner
Diverse in Unity
kronic said:
I can agree with this. He isn't very popular in the n.m. countries (poturčenec horší Turka
).
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Citizens or not, expel the rioters and shoot the looters.
klazlo
Avatarless Sociologist
Winner said:
Yes, Sarkozy has a political agenda to boost his own odds for the election. Bashing immigrants is a common way to do so - finding a solution to the problem is much more difficult.
Has anybody heard Prodi? He noted that Italy is facing the same problem.
Europe should wake up sooner or later, and realize the limits of Fortress Europe as an immigration policy.
Just saw on TV that just this night, 2 schools, a gymnasium, a factory, a library and 200 vehicles were burned. I live in one of the most violent cities in the world and I must say I never saw anything similar over here, I certainly would never expect to see it happening in Paris.
How are our parisian members doing?
How are our parisian members doing?
