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Paris Hilton is out of jail !?!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by skadistic, Jun 7, 2007.

  1. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    Until an activist judge interferes, a law enforcement official has a certain amount of discretion on how he deals with offenders. Who would be in a better position to know about how to handle a particular offender - law enforcement with actual firsthand and observational knowledge or a judge being influenced by a city bureaucrat?
     
  2. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Not when that discretion goes against a judges order.

     
  3. skadistic

    skadistic Caomhanach

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    So you don't know anything about the case.
     
  4. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    Well, otherwise, this thread would be an anti-young-marginally-hot-female festival of posts. I'm expecting some sort of pride parade at any moment.
     
  5. Little Raven

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    I am not a lawyer...and certainly not a lawyer in California.

    That said, unless LA County does things in a really odd fashion, JR is absolutely right. Generally speaking, unless the judge retained jurisdiction in an odd way, once you sentence someone they are transferred to the jurisdiction of the County (for jail) or the state (for prison) or the Bureau of Prisons (for the feds), which then decides where you go and, to a large extent, for how long.

    I'm actually not sure the judge has the power he's claiming in this case. It'll be interesting, anyway.
     
  6. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    Law enforcement offical with certain degree of discretion - check

    Law Enforcement official relying on observational and firsthand knowledge of others within the law enforcement system - check

    City bureacrat trying to influence a judge - check

    Looks like I know 3 things that you either you don't know or are denying.

    Now, you can argue that we should give more credence to the judge as influenced by the city bureacrat than we should to the law enforcement official influenced by those with firsthand knowledge, but to say I know nothing about the case brings your judgment and credibility into question since you are making a statement that is obviously false.
     
  7. Methos

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    I'm not a lawyer either, though I find the legal system interesting. The thing is law enforcement still has to follow through with the sentencing laid out by the judge, so if the judge states (written) that no house arrest is allowed than therefore shouldn't law enforcement be forced to abide by that legal statement?
     
  8. Methos

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    The above is going to happen in all major cases, whether celebrity or not. Either way, law enforcement still has to follow legal statements made by judges, no matter how they are influenced. In order to overturn the legal statement they must follow legal proceedings. This doesn't appear to have happened in this case.
     
  9. Little Raven

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    Not necessarily. The official housing the prisoner has broad, and I mean broad, discretion in how the inmate is handled, including how long they are held. (to a degree, anyway) I couldn't possibly be definitive without reviewing the appropriate statutes, (and I assure you people infinitely more qualified than I are doing that right now) but it's entirely possible...even probable...that the judge had no authority to issue such a qualifier.
     
  10. aronnax

    aronnax Let your spirit be free

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    Stupid rich girl... A house Arrest, IN HER HOUSE????!!!!!
     
  11. JollyRoger

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    Law enforcement is caught between two systems - the judicial and the legislative/administrative. The judical gives the court order for a sentence, the legislative/administrative lays out laws and regulations for the treatment of detainees. Those regulations likely allow some discretion in a medical case.

    EDIT: An LR makes an excellent point about the Judge's potential stepping over the line in his sentencing to begin with.
     
  12. Phlegmak

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    Some Paris Hilton events are going on right now. I'm listening to talk radio (www.kste.com) and Phil, the host, mentioned that helicopters were circling Hilton's home, and now she's in a police car heading to the courthouse (or police station?). I feel stupid for posting this, but I find it very funny.
     
  13. LucyDuke

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    TMZ is the best for that sort of thing.

    Me too. :blush:
     
  14. EdwardTking

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    Question seems to me did the Sheriff get his Parisian fellatiowning?

    Or was he made a fool of.
     
  15. Volum

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    Theyre showing pictures of her crying now, handcuffed in a police car..

    Not really cut out for prison life it seems.
     
  16. skadistic

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    That judge just ordered her to jail. Shes screaming and whaling about her impending jailing!! She got the entired 45 too.
     
  17. Volum

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    She was also screaming for her mother and apparently shouting "Its not right"

    Not sure exactly whats right here tough?

    "its not right, i to rich to goo to jail"
     
  18. CamBot

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    She violated probation twice, and the sentence is entirely appropriate. The judge explicitly ordered no house arrest, and I am assume he was looking for some valid medical certification when he called her back into court and wasn't satisfied with the explanation, so she goes back.

    If she was going through some form of alcohol/drug detox, she could probably be monitored in jail- it's not like she's the first.
     
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    There is no real medical reason that the jails can not service. I hope she does need to detox. Its not a fun feeling.
     
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