Political Philosophy discussion

US has something called filibuster, minority party can block legislation.
It should be removed
This was specifically and very intentionally made by founding fathers of american republic. To prevent dictatorship of majority. AKA "true democracy". AKA "direct democracy".
If you want to eliminate this obstacle for dictatorship, then you want dictatorship. It is this simple :)
 
You can be good person without religion.
A-a-a-and! It is FUNNY FACT TIME again! :cool:
Many people, since the beginning of time, have tried to create philosophy for being good, which excludes God. You already know where I'm going, right? :)
And you guessed it!
And that's precisely the reason why One True Religion still persists.
And oh boy! So many people tried really hard to eradicate it! Right now it surely looks like they have succeded, but in fact, more and more people turn to One True God these days.

Christianity isn't center of universe - there is ton of religions.
One True God.

Within Christianity you have Mormons, Evangelists, Orthodox, Protestants, Catholics and so on.
And they believe in ...?
So what seems to be the problem? :)

Also Muslim will say same about Islam, Jew will say about Judaism.
You would do yourself a GREAT favor if you educate youself at least in those 3, being: Christianity, Islam, and Juidaism.
What a ride full of true revelations lays before you!

Creator being universe itself :D
You honestly don't see a logical fallacy here?
 
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WHAT? THE? BEST? WAY? TO? GROW?!!!! POPULATION?
Be like Sweden or other Nordic country.
Reduce cost of living, ensure that there is some sort of safety net, so people can have 3 kids easily if they want.

Why suddenly population exploded from 1 to 8 billion within 100 years, if it wasn't for advancements in science?
Also you need to colonize solar system, if you want to explode 8 billion to 64 billion in next 300 years.

This was specifically and very intentionally made by founding fathers of american republic. To prevent dictatorship of majority. AKA "true democracy". AKA "direct democracy".
If you want to eliminate this obstacle for dictatorship, then you want dictatorship. It is this simple :)
So you want corporate dictatorship. Billionaires can easily make dictatorship of minority.
Corporate religious party blocks everything made by other party just because they can.

Funny fact time!
Among most prominent islami... Well, one religious extremists are people from wealthy, prominent, well educated families. Most notably one Osama bin Laden. But there are many others. Don't take my word for it, search for yourself.

One true God.

Exodus 20:3
You shall have no other gods before Me.
Of course something like Osama can still happen, Middle East wasn't exactly like Sweden anyway.

Every religion will have one true god according to their scripture.
 
A-a-a-and! It is FUNNY FACT TIME again! :cool:
Many people, since the beginning of time, have tried to create philosophy for being good, which excludes God. You already know where I'm going, right? :)
And you guessed it!
And that's precisely the reason why One True Religion still persists.
And oh boy! So many people tried really hard to eradicate it! Right now it surely looks like they have succeded, but in fact, more and more people turn to One True God these days.

So really its impossible to not be jerk, who hates people for no reason, if you don't believe in God?
 
"western philosophy" has intention of making people free from their chains, be material, moral or otherwise.
Oh, you probably mean such prominent western philisophers like St. Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther, or St. Augustine, right? No? Oh, my bad. :mischief:

Problem is: a person can't be material and moral.
Just cannot! It's the eternal phylosophical debate! And it has always concluded in "There must be God if you want morality to exist". Just learn your philosophy already.

Marxism is 100% material. And very, very immoral.

I don't agree with the theory of marxism myself, but having read most of the works , I can say that it is an author that is misunderstood.
Would you please elaborate on why you don't agree with the theory of marxism?
And a couple of examples where Marx was "misunderstood"?
 
Who made Creator though?
Nobody. He always exists. That's precisely the reason why He is God.
Read some St. Thomas Aquinas.
Many, many very smart people have been reasoning about God. Very good logical conclusions have been made. It helps a lot to familiriaze yourself. Saves you a lot of time.
However, if one really thinks about same topic, he arrives to same conclusions about necessity of God. Isn't it funny?
 
Why do you believe, that we have administrator, who may be more or less involved?
If you have read my posts, which I doubt, you would have noticed my words: "I do not believe in God. I know God is".
There is a huge difference between believing something and knowing something for a fact.
 
Then why he easily undid Trump stuff?
What's so hard about that? Executive orders to cancel executive orders.
And while signing some EO, poor old Joe mumbled "I don't know what I'm signing".
Of course everything was being prepared from the day Trump signed his first executive order. He really messed with many of their plans. Please don't consider this as I think like "Trump was the only hope". He was not.
 
Problem is: a person can't be material and moral.
Just cannot! It's the eternal phylosophical debate! And it has always concluded in "There must be God if you want morality to exist". Just learn your philosophy already.
I guess then every moral/good person is following some sort of faith in off brand religion/spirituality system.
Spiritualism/religiousness is a spectrum then. Passive religiousness/spiritualism is good enough.

There is no "Chosen One" of religion - this is how you start religious wars.
 
This actually does still make some sense why we do this too - because 'too big to fail' really means an economic black hole will be created when THAT much of our economy is wiped out - infrastructures fail, supply chains fail, people starve and die, the system completely collapses because of the failure of a few load bearing walls of our system.
That's a lie. A boogieman created specifically to scare everyone into submission.
Infrastructure doesn't need banks to function. Especially in contemporary time.

Socialists, to their credit, do seem to want to draw a line where you do have private property. They just don't think a person should be able to sublet property or hire other people. Their goal seems to be taking away power one person has over another.
"Do seem to". "seems to".
Do yourself a favor and get a knowledge what they actually SAY, and even more importantly: what they actually PLAN to do once they have complete power. I've provided tips where to start and even links.

I trust private citizens much less than any elected officials beholden to their electorate.
Say hello to Santa Claus from me when you see him.
"elected officials beholden to their electorate" :lol:

If our systems fail most of us would die.
You are right about this. On the other hand, certain people put Gorilla Glue ON HER HAIR!
Lord. We definitely deserve what is coming to us.

And Sweden is also a great example of a balance between capitalism and socialism in practice.
I'm sorry? Did you do this intentionally?
Sweden is a capitalist country. They specifically point it out. IT'S A LINK THERE (to the left of this text)! Click it to see a video specifically and unequivocally stating that Sweden IS NOT a socialist country!

Completely disagree - the government should be the only ones with the authority to determine what systems to benefit people are in most need of funding. We must have centralized strategic planning of these things or it's not only chaos, its wasteful. Our current system of 'charity' is mostly a scam to redirect the money donated to profiteers anyhow.
Current system of charity is USA is called welfare and many others. And yes, they are scam to breed state-dependent slaves.
Because it is impossible for any central based authority to se each and every case in proper context to determine if a person is truly in need or just taking advantage of the system.
 
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Why suddenly population exploded from 1 to 8 billion within 100 years, if it wasn't for advancements in science?
Oh, I got it. You are ignoring me.
That's alright. Even if only 1 other person will find interest in my texts, that would be my purpose fulfilled.
 
I'm sorry? Did you do this intentionally?
Sweden is a capitalist country. They specifically point it out. IT'S A LINK THERE (to the left of this text)! Click it to see a video specifically and unequivocally stating that Sweden IS NOT a socialist country!
I guess some people think socialism/capitalism is smooth spectrum.

Because it is impossible for any central based authority to se each and every case in proper context to determine if a person is truly in need or just taking advantage of the system.
Better have 1 person in 1000 abuse system, than to lock people in permanent poverty.

Churches also can prey on needy people instead of helping them too.
 
I guess then every moral/good person is following some sort of faith in off brand religion/spirituality system.
You can continue guessing or you can start learning.

Passive religiousness/spiritualism is good enough.
What is passive religiousness? :confused:
Following Commandments requires a lot of efforts. It is REALLY HARD to be moral person. One has to apply him/herself.

There is no "Chosen One" of religion - this is how you start religious wars.
"Chosen One?" Playing Total War Warhammer? :lol:
I know nothing of Chosen One.

Christianity is not about forceful expansion. It is about saving one's soul. And if you want to help people, you would want to help them arrive to Him through Christ.
 
"Chosen One?" Playing Total War Warhammer? :lol:
I know nothing of Chosen One.

Christianity is not about forceful expansion. It is about saving one's soul. And if you want to help people, you would want to help them arrive to Him through Christ.
I meant one religion being valid and other religions not being valid.
 
I meant one religion being valid and other religions not being valid.
Well, there are scriptures. Texts written by people. Filled with many, many inconsistencies and outright lies. Because "text was carefully preserved". And later re-written. Many times. To remove said inconsistencies and hide lies.
And there are other religious texts. Also written by people. Who are in fact very proud they have written their own texts instead of Commandments given to their ancestors. But for whatever reason they hide these facts behind false philosophy, hoping people are lazy and WILL CONTINUE TO GUESS or BELIEVE, rather than RESEARCH for themselves.

And then there are hard facts. Observable in life.
One true God.
 
If it happens, we'll have what we have now: intentionally bred class of people who rely on state-charity and are willing to sell everybody else into slavery for a welfare cheque. And child-farming. When women intentionally gets pregnant to be single mother and have her 2 kids provide for her. And after kids grow up, they just get 2 more!
Bit of right wing paranoia there is all I hear. Nothing's so bad as a person not having to work to survive huh? Is THAT why the right also doesn't want to allow women to make decisions that would limit population overgrowth, poverty, and a tradition of dependency?

Being alive and knowing one is mortal is what motivates a person to make an impact in the world with what they bring to the table for their society in life. I do get that too many people don't understand what sacrifices are made for them nor have nearly enough of a concept of appreciation for an actual utopia to thrive usually. Still, on the other side of the coin, being able to do nothing but jump from min wage job to min wage job when you could've been a GREAT author, inventor, writer, coder had you simply been left to your own devices, is also common in our society and we've killed a lot of what could've been given to the community by people doing what they were more naturally inclined to do rather than simply what they were forced into by circumstances. Very few are financially free enough to be able to do what they are actually here for.

Only if it is voluntary. At no circumstance should any "government" of any kind take care of charity.
Let me clarify my earlier statement - nothing's wrong with charity. Everything is wrong with it being a tax write off. At that point it means that you as a private citizen got to determine what YOU think matters so as to avoid paying your fair share into strategic redistribution and it probably isn't even something that actually does matter - so many non-profits are just collections taken to help influence policy on things as well, or to pay for the education of some elite kid who didn't need the help to begin with. Keeping it all in the 'family' of the existing upper class.

Wrong. Socialism (meaning only some ethemerial collective can have property rights) ALWAYS, NO EXCEPTIONS to this day, fails. And end in severe bloodshed. That's why satanists LOVE socialism.
Sweden is not socialist. It is a capitalist country with individuals holding property rights.
Well, if that's not a perfect example of the demonization of a buzzword I'm not sure what is. Socialism apparently has a number of definitions and to say it's about removal of all property rights is probably the MOST extreme of them. And I'm against it going that far or even close. Generally in the US when we're talking Socialism, we simply mean government run programs, like military, fire, police, road maintenance, etc... An industry is socialized or privatized or a combination (such as our delivery/mail services). Quite obviously, some industries are a rapid trainwreck when you privatize them. Military, for example, tends to quickly speed into a coup when privatized. Private prisons are hellscapes of underfunding and mass exploitation. I could go on for days about why we should socialize health care, otherwise we let it remain a purposefully broken profit gouging system feeding on people's need to be healthy and resolve health issues throughout life. I would never, however, advocate giving up the right to owning a home, or even one you rent out, and I most certainly am not against people starting businesses and employing others.

Sweden runs heavily socialized health care now (was the last outside of the US to switch) and it doesn't spend nearly what we do on pharma research anymore as a result. They also aren't coming up with new invented drugs that addict people to taking them to solve their symptoms, whilst giving them new symptoms that need new drugs to resolve as well. Expenses of health care are dramatically down across the board and people don't have to fear bankruptcy when they get sick, even when they HAVE a 'coverage policy', as we do here.

So yes, Sweden is both capitalist and socialist and are a much better balance of the two.

Oh you are so wrong! Canada already has working concentration camps for "science deniers" who "disseminate lies about vaccines efficacy and safety" and thus "subject all of us and our very future to danger".
Oh. And Canada has banned almost all types of guns from civil possession just in summer 2020. I wonder where it goes...
I certainly don't see people eating coyote meat to survive in Canada, mass poverty, people living 10 persons to a 200sq' space, etc... Economically their people are a LOT better off. Ok, maybe they should keep their mouths shut when they want to spread dangerous fringe beliefs around. I have had a few of my own but wouldn't want to harm society with them either.

That's the whole point of state mandated formal education. To make workers and soldiers, unable to think for themselves, programmed to react in pre-defined manner to certains buzz words.
Meh... that's the intent of propaganda and propaganda IS easily spread through a state mandated formal education. However, what's ALSO easily spread is truth, and without a core knowledge base being shared to all, you will quickly get people believing all sorts of crazy crap. You think the 'flat earthers' came from formal education or private? hmm...
We didn't create ourselves. It is obviously impossible.
Interesting. Obviously? Like how it's obvious that a book that tells you it is itself the words of a deity written by the hands of men and interpreted by other men is to be taken as a literal guide to how to live despite its thousands of noted self-contradictions is to be believed to be exactly what it says it is? You have an interesting view of the term 'obvious' my friend. But I won't engage on this matter further because I understand why you think it's so obvious that we 'didn't create ourselves' and I also understand that the truth is eventually made quite 'obvious' to us upon our deaths and only a few get to see how obvious it is before then - most wouldn't even WANT to see it because it would defy the whole point of the experience to understand it. I won't even say I don't think the Bible, crazy as the thing actually is, is all that wrong either, and that's where it can really get weird.
Man, you are so under- and mis-informed.
So, "we have come to the point". "Масло подорожало". It just that, happened? By the strange whims of cruel life, yes? Where is your God if he allows such suffering, yes? :confused:
If you speak Russian I would strongly suggest you to listen to "Concepts of public safety" lections by colonel Petrov. Soviet and then Russian officer. He and his colleagues have recorded series of lectures which clear understanding of life perfectly. Since I listened to them I never ever say anything like "we have come to the point". Because in reality it is always "they have brough us to the point". And we even know who they are.

Also, I suggest you educate yourself about other man-made crisises, like Great Depression and others, when banksters robbed people of property.

People, you have no idea what is happening right now. It is a collapse such magnificient and huge, it was never before! And YOU WILL BE JUDGED. And we all will have to go trough suffering. Though it will be not even close to suffering of the people who had to live through World War 1 or 2. But they are preparing famine for all of us. And tyranny. This one would be like never before. With all the new technology.
Have I piqued your interest? :cool:
Educate yourself on cultural marxism, UN Agenda 21, UN Agenda 2030, ID 2020. You'll find your way from there ;)
Sorry but on all this all I hear is, "People, People! You haven't fed on the propaganda I've fed on yet so let me make sure you do so that you can see things the way I do - which is yet another manufactured set of lies and deceit to create a social agenda of opinion change and division!" Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe not. It really is impossible to know so I would be guarded. I've come to feel that the UN is generally a force for trying to ensure peace exists in the world, not a spearhead effort to make sure everyone becomes a servant 'bot' to higher masters. We're ALREADY that for the most part so what more is there to take that hasn't been taken already?
 
I haven't read it, but if you are correct in your assumption of what that tale does well - I don't even want to read it. Because it is obviously false. Another cultural marxism. Marxism was made to subvert and destroy foundations of christian society. And it did very well, looking at the contemporary time.

But in fact morality is absolute. It is objective. It is independent of "culture" or "another point of view". It is either black or white, it is never grey.
We have our Commandments. Live accordingly.
Dang... you really SHOULD read it then. It would be good food for thought for such a perspective.
 
If everyone, who ever posted in this thread were superpower leaders, then we would have cold war lol.
It would be cool to see you guys play some multiplayer grand strategy game, where you roleplay accordingly to your ideologies.

Definitely you could become rich by selling military units to everyone.
 
That's a lie. A boogieman created specifically to scare everyone into submission.
Infrastructure doesn't need banks to function. Especially in contemporary time.
Yeah, since we have come to rely on loans for regular payrolls for so many and for so many of us our money is sitting in a bank as a way to protect it from theft, I beg to differ. You take the banks away, you collapse our entire world system at this point. Like any other tech, we are completely reliant on their stability now.

"Do seem to". "seems to".
Do yourself a favor and get a knowledge what they actually SAY, and even more importantly: what they actually PLAN to do once they have complete power. I've provided tips where to start and even links.
'They' are a wide variety of differing beliefs and outlooks among different individuals. 'They' rarely agree with one another when 'they' get down to what they really believe. Often 'they' don't even realize it. There probably are some smart centralized groups pushing for certain things but from what I can see it's usually just a weaponized form of propaganda to try to split up a nation by getting poor people onboard with the idea that they could have a better life under a different system, one that at closer inspection doesn't even seem to have all the answers to its own uniquely introduced problems. But 'they' also don't ALL believe in the most extreme forms of this vague political ideology.

Say hello to Santa Claus from me when you see him.
"elected officials beholden to their electorate" :lol:
We have problems in our system that must be addressed to return power to the people. Yes, at the moment its rule of $, by $, for $ but there are steps we can take to recover from where we are. We MUST shatter the duopoly for one. Kill the Electoral College without mercy, ban gerrymandering, hell possibly even ban parties as a system if we can. Enforce the laws that forbid high donation campaign financing, and track donations from crowdfunding to ensure it's not a bot distribution mechanism to hide a larger financier. The list goes on but if you address them all, we COULD get power to people back. Or we could at least fulfill the hollow and broken promises we were led to believe our government was designed to be.

I'm sorry? Did you do this intentionally?
Sweden is a capitalist country. They specifically point it out. IT'S A LINK THERE (to the left of this text)! Click it to see a video specifically and unequivocally stating that Sweden IS NOT a socialist country!
I explain more above. In the way I support socialism, it's a highly socialist country in that it has strong government programs that solve problems for people and protect their people from danger and harm, whether its from an external or internal, manmade, or natural threat.
In my definitions, socialism is not incompatible with capitalism, but I'm also holding full on non-ownership society to be a different thing entirely.
And yes, they are scam to breed state-dependent slaves.
Bull. It's a safety net to ensure that the scourge of poverty doesn't lead to people freezing to death on the streets and is so poorly underfunded that people still are.
Stop buying the rightwing propaganda that promotes fear of dependency. If you're well taken care of and nurtured, you will grow and strengthen and learn to fly on your own. It is when you don't get fed that you fail to grow wings.

Because it is impossible for any central based authority to se each and every case in proper context to determine if a person is truly in need or just taking advantage of the system.
There's really no such thing as 'just taking advantage of the system'. If that's what you're doing, you're still making the system stronger as a whole by being a healthy buying consumer spending into the system and even the wealthy benefit more when the poor aren't quite so poor - what they DO lose is the ability to exploit people out of their desperation to survive.
 
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