[R&F] Poll: which are the last 4 R&F civs?

[CPWimmer]

My votes:

1. Ottoman
2. Incan
3. Carthage - if I were forced to choose one specific African Civ, I would go Carthage over Mali/Ethiopia/Zulu etc. due to era coverage (and chance that Dido is the "female leader who interacts with the Ages system"
4. "Other European" - even though I made a choice for #3, i still voted with the generic "other" for number 4. I could see Italy or Gerogia or Celts, which are options, easily fill this slot, but I am not sold on any of those.

 

[Wielki Hegemon]

Inca and Ottomans are most likely. One spot for Africa and the last spot can be surprising.
I really hope to see Cuba, Hungary, Maori, Venice or Morocco. All of them (beside Morocco) with a very low chance.

 

[Zaarin]

Georgia, Ottomans, Inca, and a fourth civ, probably another surprise since otherwise Georgia is the sole newcomer (sure, the Cree are new, but we all knew there'd be a Native American civ).

 

[nitedemon]

Why do we all assume the blurry headband figure is a female leader ? Can’t it be a headdress on say , an Inca male leader?

Obviously the Inca is a no brainer, a South America civ is needed and the Inca can fill that spot to challenge Brazil on the TSL Earth map. Ottomans are heavily requested so I won't be surprised if they are in. Georgia is hinted in the trailer thanks to the mongol battle scene, and Tamar of Georgia could be the leader that plays the ages well. I may be in the minority on the fourth one, but I am expecting a surprise new civ in the middle east and that civ is Palmyra, it could also be Syria or Aram but the leader that would be leading it is Zenobia. If there are going to be 4 female leaders, we already have two (Seondeok and Wilhelmina) and Georgia is the most likely the third leader in the female leader category. The ottomans and the Inca are most likely going to have male leaders, I could be wrong on the blurred Female leader spotted on the first livestream, but if its not Tamar of Georgia chances are it may be Zenobia or some other Arab/Asian/Native American female leader.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Why do we all assume the blurry headband figure is a female leader ? Can’t it be a headdress on say , an Inca male leader?

Huayna Capac is on my list of suspects for that pic.

 

[CivLuvah]

Inca, Ottomans, Italy (because I've been itching to have them in the game)... and for the sake of regional and civilization variety, the Swahili.

Although I would understand why people would want Georgia in the game. It's just that... I hope people would wait just a bit for it to come...

But who knows?

 

[Returning Lurker]

I really, really, REALLY want it to be the Ottomans. But something deep down inside the darkest part of my shriveled up soul keeps whispering that they’re not going to show up this expansion and that they’re either going to be standalone DLC or that I’ll have to wait until next expansion.

I also want Songhai (or at least Ghana with future DLC adding an alternate leader from both Songhai Mali) but I admit that’s a little more far flung.

I don’t want Italy but I reluctantly accept the fact that they’re probably coming and I’ve mostly made my peace with it. Mostly.

Last I expect and I want Inca. If we get no one to contest Brazil this expansion I’ll be shocked and appalled, and if we see Eva Peron before a Sappa Inca I’ll be furious and shocked and appalled.

 

[eso12por8]

I think Tamar is more fit for DLC to give it a unique spotlight instead of as a part of a packaged deal.

I ultimately chose Ottomans *begrudgingly, though the question wasn't about my personal desires, rather the likelihood of dev favorability. Also went with Carthage (still torn with Phoenecia), Inca & Mali.

 

[Zaarin]

I think Tamar is more fit for DLC to give it a unique spotlight instead of as a part of a packaged deal.

I ultimately chose Ottomans *begrudgingly, though the question wasn't about my personal desires, rather the likelihood of dev favorability. Also went with Carthage (still torn with Phoenecia), Inca & Mali.

No need to be torn about Phoenicia: they're not going to happen in a game about big personality leaders.

 

[Xandinho]

I voted in Ottomans, Georgia, Carthage and another African, in the case, I think it may be Ashanti. My reasons:

1. Ottomans (they have been quite demanding, and I think we will have at least one Islamic civ);
2. Georgia (possible clues in the trailer, and Tamar fits the mechanism of golden ages);
3. Carthage (I think at least one ancient/classical era civ will be in);
4. Ashanti (a civ from a region not yet represented, and they have an interesting female leader: Yaa Asantewaa).

I'm one of the few who think that the Incas will not be included in this expansion, I hope that I'm wrong.

Mayas and Portugal will not be in, because Palenque and Lisbon were seen in videos.

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

Kilwa, Portugal and Maya are out because of CSes (assuming the CSes are reliable, we don't know when the videos are recorded).

With two Asian civs now and the recent Indonesia/Khmer pack, I don't see Asia getting any more attention for R&F. Maybe another Polynesian civ, but that also seems really unlikely.

Picked Other Africa, Inca and Ottomans. The fourth is a total wildcard to me. It could be anybody. Georgia has the lead in my mind, but we really don't know.

For Africa, I'm hoping for Ashanti.

Portugal is unlikely to be in, as we saw Lisbon as a City State.

 

[N7Zebracakes]

In my mind, Incan are obvious. I put in Mali as well, for the new pink lake wonder. Also put in Zulu, to round things out in Africa- would have Mali, Nubia, Egypt, Kongo, and Zulu all there. I feel adding Morroco to that makes it over-crowded, but Europe is also a clusterfudg, so who knows.

Fourth- Ottomans seem obvious, Georgia seems like a stretch as they've given us Australia and the Cree as fan shout-outs now. I'd like to see a Polynesian civ, or even Venice.

 

[Mr. Shadows]

I voted Ottoman, Byzantine, Incan and Carthaginian. I didn't reread it before voting but this thread sheds some interesting light on the question if you're into theory crafting: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/mapping-civilization-vi-base-game-up-to-the-nubia-dlc.620316/

 

[Futumch]

I chose Zulu, Inca, Byzantine and Carthage.
It probably wouldn't be a stretch to have Ottoman instead of Byzantine, or Phoenecians instead of Carthage.
The consensus seems to be that the Incas are a shoe-in for one of the last four spots, and some form of African civ (so I chose my favourite). The other two are chosen based on location and era. I don't know if I have seen the Carthage city-state in any of the new promotional material. They might end up being Phonecians.

 

[Arianrhod]

Ottomans are pretty much a lock and I think everyone's going to be surprised if they're not here. Assuming that both they and the Byzantines return, I don't see them wanting to put both in the same expansion, and Byzantium's pretty much out this time (as are the Hittites) so now's the time to get 'em in. Plus it'll put an end to all those comments demanding them.

Inca ought to be the next most likely, and they should be the most likely but I've got the nagging feeling that there's a nonzero chance that they could miss out. They shouldn't, though. Frankly they should already be here.

That leaves two more. I'd imagine we're getting at least one more newcomer -- which would probably either be from Europe, Africa, or whatever we're calling Georgia. The last is probably some standard expansion civ that hasn't been killed yet like the Celts or Carthage or whatever, probably from whichever of the two regions mentioned previously didn't get a newcomer.

 

[Greywulf]

Inca is certainly one of them, being that it was listed as one of the civs for the tablet version.
Maya apparently cannot be in it due to Palenque being spotted somewhere for R&F, but they could be added later on in a second expansion or DLC.
Female leaders are a big focus in this expansion, so we will probably see at least a couple more. Probably Phoenicia (or Carthage, a colony of Phoenicia) with Dido, and we may see Boudicca leading the Celts again (hopefully this time she has her long hair). Perhaps we will see Portugal in R&F, but I'm thinking now that Portugal will come a bit later, because Spain and the Netherlands are both in the game, they can wait a little while before adding Portugal ~ might not make sense to everyone, but that's how I'm thinking.
Ottomans are very likely, and can have a female leader, so maybe them as well.

My prediction goes in this order of likelihood: Inca, Phoenicia (or Carthage, a colony of Phoenicia), Ottomans, Celts. That would mean that probably three of the remaining leaders will be female, and one male.

 

[God of Kings]

Inca is certainly one of them, being that it was listed as one of the civs for the tablet version.

Inca is not in the iPad version. It was a typo.

 

[TheSpaceCowboy]

I voted Byzantium, Carthage, Italy, and Other South American

More specifically, I suspect:

1. Either Byzantium or the Ottomans
2. If not Carthage, than a Sub-Saharan tribe
3. Italy due to the Rise and Fall theme, and the absence of their City-States
4. Either Gran Columbia or Inca

 

[nzcamel]

I really, really, REALLY want it to be the Ottomans. But something deep down inside the darkest part of my shriveled up soul keeps whispering that they’re not going to show up this expansion and that they’re either going to be standalone DLC or that I’ll have to wait until next expansion.

I suspect that the Ottomans, Mayans, and Portuguese will head up expansion 2. At least two of the three, with maybe the other being DLC.

No need to be torn about Phoenicia: they're not going to happen in a game about big personality leaders.

I voted Phoenicia...but I take your point Meh - same dif in the end

But how can we have Hannibal and not elephants? And will they include a third elephant UU?


I voted:

Inca
Mali/Ghana/Songhai
Phoenicia
And 'other Middle East' for Armenia.

 

[Zaarin]

I suspect that the Ottomans, Mayans, and Portuguese will head up expansion 2. At least two of the three, with maybe the other being DLC.


I voted Phoenicia...but I take your point Meh - same dif in the end

But how can we have Hannibal and not elephants? And will they include a third elephant UU?


I voted:

Inca
Mali/Ghana/Songhai
Phoenicia
And 'other Middle East' for Armenia.

I'd be very surprised if we saw another Graeco-Roman civilization (Byzantium) over the Ottomans, and even more surprised if we saw neither.

As for Armenia, I wouldn't be displeased, but I'd be astonished if we saw them over such an obvious and popular female leader like Tamar.