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Civrules said:
Civilization IV: Quick Answers

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Hi everyone!

In this thread, feel free to ask basic questions about Civilization IV. This should make it easier for you guys to get answers quicker, and it should also separate discussion threads from more basic questions. :) With time, this will make it possible for us to put together an official Civilization IV FAQ article as well. If you aren't in a rush to post any questions, make sure to read through the available information, which is likely to answer a lot of questions itself.

Just post your questions here without worrying about if it's already covered somewhere else, and hopefully some of the experts will answer them.

I encourage everyone to participate here, answering questions they can. Thanks!
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Hi People. I was playing a game of bts @ Cheiftan level and i made India a Vassal state. And now for god's sake I can't no matter what I do declare war on those Indians. No matter how many insults or demands or spys that i force upon the sods they won't let me declare war on them.

How do I play myself out of this?

Regards Mikre 76

mike76hynd@hotmail.com
 
For the two last questions about vassals: you can't vassalize yourself to an AI. And you can't break a vassalization aggrement if it was done via capitulation. So no war to capitulated vassals.
 
mike76 said:
Hi People. I was playing a game of bts @ Cheiftan level and i made India a Vassal state. And now for god's sake I can't no matter what I do declare war on those Indians. No matter how many insults or demands or spys that i force upon the sods they won't let me declare war on them.

How do I play myself out of this?

Regards Mikre 76

mike76hynd@hotmail.com
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JujuLautre's explanation is correct. Technically vassals cannot declare war on one another and you cannot become the AI's vassal.

Here are they ways I know of to break the agreement. When you mouseover your vassal's name in the list it tells you a couple conditions. The vassal arrangement is broken if either condition happens:

- The vassal's population AND land area are greater than 50% of the master. BOTH conditions must be satisfied.
- The vassal's land area drops to 50% of what it was right before vassalizing. So if another civ is destroying them, and you're not helping, they can break free.
- Demand a resource that the vassal refuses. Instant war (and thus no more vassal agreement).

You really need to think hard before taking on a vassal. I've never received a voluntary vassal, but that agreement can be dissolved every 10 turns by the vassal.

The easiest way out is to demand a resource that they hopefully won't give you. Other than that, you need them to grow a lot by themselves (which is very tough) or let an enemy AI clobber them.
 
thx JujuLautre for answer. So I even can't capitulate to AI, right? even if I might be destroyed???
 
newbie qwestion
trying to download ryse and fall where do i put it
cant see mods folder when i open the game
 
I finally was able to get DSL in my area (PA boondocks) and can now download without hours of waiting (26.4 kilobytes is sloooooow). What is a good WW2 scenario or mod and, if a mod, how do I save it?

J.P.Jones
 
My first post in years. I loved Civ 1 and 2, but never enjoyed Civ 3.

Now I started playing Civ 4, which is much better, and I'm back to the level of addiction I had 10 years ago.

So, I'm practising, and playing a game at chieftain level now. I'm winning, easily, and I figured a cultural victory was unavoidable, because I had 2 cities at 60K culture, and the third at 45K and rising with 250 per turn.

So a couple of turns later, the culture of city 3 rises above 50K, but no victory...

Now I'm confused. 3x50K culture is victory right? Or am I missing out on something?

I'm willing to send someone my savegame per email...
 
jonker1541 said:
My first post in years. I loved Civ 1 and 2, but never enjoyed Civ 3.

Now I started playing Civ 4, which is much better, and I'm back to the level of addiction I had 10 years ago.

So, I'm practising, and playing a game at chieftain level now. I'm winning, easily, and I figured a cultural victory was unavoidable, because I had 2 cities at 60K culture, and the third at 45K and rising with 250 per turn.

So a couple of turns later, the culture of city 3 rises above 50K, but no victory...

Now I'm confused. 3x50K culture is victory right? Or am I missing out on something?

I'm willing to send someone my savegame per email...
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Welcome back to civfanatics then.

3 cities have to reach legendary culture level and that level differs for each game speed, 50.000 is the value at normal game speed. You can check the value in the victory screen (F8).

If the game speed is at normal, then I can only guess that some other type of victory has already been achieved by someone and you chose to continue to play or you deselected the cultural victory option at the start of the game in the game setup.
 
Ah,

my game speed is set to marathon. I had no clue this would influence the victory conditions. Where in my screenshot does it say what the victory condition for cultural victory is?
 

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That screenshot doesn't show it. The culture victory requirement for marathon is 3 x 150,000.
 
jonker1541 said:
Ah,

my game speed is set to marathon. I had no clue this would influence the victory conditions. Where in my screenshot does it say what the victory condition for cultural victory is?
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Hmm, it isn't there. I usually don't play with the cultural victory option, but I guessed it would be mentioned in this screen

It's 150.000 at marathon speed. You should be able to see this in the cities that are at high culture levels and going for the legendary culture level. You can see the progress bar for culture in those cities. Most things at marathon speed are 3 times as expensive as you have 3 times as many game turns.
 
GenocideBringer said:
What do vassals actually do for you?
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Have the same state of war as the master (ie. will declare war on anyone you are at war with).
Should give you any reasorce they have that you want (they can refuse, but that is an automatic declaration of war against you).
Give you happiness (1 per city per vassal?).
Cost you a bit in city maintanace.
Allow you to see their territory.
Tell you want they are reaserching, and normally (always?) will reaserch what you tell them to.

I think thast is it, but I have probably forgoten something.
 
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