Random Events

ori · Sep 26, 2011

I'd like to use this thread to discuss the events that are implemented in the game. If you know an event that desperately needs changing: let me know, though I am most interested in your thoughts about the events I'll introduce at whatever pace it'll be...
If you have ideas for new events, please do post them in this thread.

right now the following have been implemented:

Cock Fights

Spoiler :

Snake Oil

Spoiler :

Iditarod

Spoiler :

New Sheriff

Spoiler :

Music of Gods

Spoiler :

Hydromancerx · Sep 26, 2011

Needs a Chicken Coop Doctor's Office and an unhealthy city, choices are:

Oh really? Good thing it was not a Duck Coop Doctor's Office or he would be a real "Quack". :mischief:

Dancing Hoskuld · Sep 26, 2011

Not sure if this fits the new event of fix of an old event category. :mischief:

Volcano event.

Now that we have the graphics and I have most of the python to support it. I would like the event to change so that the graphics on the map are used a bit more dynamically.

Events:-

Volcanic eruption - dormant volcano becomes active
Extinct volcano isn't - peak with sulphur or obsidian becomes active volcano
New volcano - anywhere not just peaks (very rare)
Dormant volcano - active volcano goes dormant ( I may have the XML for this one.)
Extinct volcano - a dormant volcano goes extinct becoming a peak with obsidian or sulphur.

The effects of the volcano erupting are the same as now. With two possible exceptions.

all plots next to a new volcano get +1 - map scripts will need to change to give this bonus to plots next to existing active and dormant volcanoes.
on going extinct the +1food: bonus is removed.

I was going to use the volcano graphic with all te soot as the active one and the pretty as the dormant.

Sound feasible?

ori · Sep 27, 2011

Hydromancerx said:
Oh really? Good thing it was not a Duck Coop Doctor's Office or he would be a real "Quack".

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Not sure if this fits the new event of fix of an old event category. Volcano event.

Now that we have the graphics and I have most of the python to support it. I would like the event to change so that the graphics on the map are used a bit more dynamically.

Events:-

Volcanic eruption - dormant volcano becomes active

Extinct volcano isn't - peak with sulphur or obsidian becomes active volcano

New volcano - anywhere not just peaks (very rare)

Dormant volcano - active volcano goes dormant ( I may have the XML for this one.)

Extinct volcano - a dormant volcano goes extinct becoming a peak with obsidian or sulphur.

The effects of the volcano erupting are the same as now. With two possible exceptions.

all plots next to a new volcano get +1 - map scripts will need to change to give this bonus to plots next to existing active and dormant volcanoes.

on going extinct the +1food: bonus is removed.

I was going to use the volcano graphic with all te soot as the active one and the pretty as the dormant.

Sound feasible?

it should not be too difficult to do that - I'll have a look at it soon (won't have much time until the weekend to do stuff

)

Hydromancerx · Sep 27, 2011

ori said:
I'd like to use this thread to discuss the events that are implemented in the game. If you know an event that desperately needs changing: let me know, though I am most interested in your thoughts about the events I'll introduce at whatever pace it'll be...

Besides the 4 I posted, here are the top 3 I personally like and think should be made next.

1. Potential Native Extinctions
2. Silica Terraces
3. Retired Frigate

strategyonly · Sep 27, 2011

ori said:
it should not be too difficult to do that - I'll have a look at it soon (won't have much time until the weekend to do stuff )

No biggy, heck take two weeks, even more, thats fine, anything in the Events area, is great work, and again, many many thx

robomani · Sep 27, 2011

there is an event that give +1 com and say (prime timber) maybe it should give the resource like the event with the deer.

ori · Sep 30, 2011

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Not sure if this fits the new event of fix of an old event category. Volcano event.

Now that we have the graphics and I have most of the python to support it. I would like the event to change so that the graphics on the map are used a bit more dynamically.

Events:-

Volcanic eruption - dormant volcano becomes active

Extinct volcano isn't - peak with sulphur or obsidian becomes active volcano

New volcano - anywhere not just peaks (very rare)

Dormant volcano - active volcano goes dormant ( I may have the XML for this one.)

Extinct volcano - a dormant volcano goes extinct becoming a peak with obsidian or sulphur.

The effects of the volcano erupting are the same as now. With two possible exceptions.

all plots next to a new volcano get +1 - map scripts will need to change to give this bonus to plots next to existing active and dormant volcanoes.

on going extinct the +1food: bonus is removed.

I was going to use the volcano graphic with all te soot as the active one and the pretty as the dormant.

Sound feasible?

if there were two volcano features (volcano_active and volcano_dormant) this would not be difficult at all to set up.

strategyonly · Sep 30, 2011

ori said:
if there were two volcano features (volcano_active and volcano_dormant) this would not be difficult at all to set up.

Its really not, its just a matter of simple python, in the correct files is all, i have done it in my past mods i made, it does make a difference also, besides looking good, that is.

Dancing Hoskuld · Sep 30, 2011

ori said:
if there were two volcano features (volcano_active and volcano_dormant) this would not be difficult at all to set up.

I think we have volcano1 and volcano2 (graphical only) at the moment but that is easy to change.

Edit I can't change the name of the feature because it is used in all the amp scripts so they would need to change also. So I am just changing the txt.

FEATURE_VOLCANO = Volcano - Active
FEATURE_VOLCANO2 = Volcano Dormant

Naturally I need to test before push it to the SVN.

ori · Oct 1, 2011

name doesn't matter as long as they are distinct. I'll try to do some code for this over the weekend.

Dancing Hoskuld · Oct 1, 2011

ori said:
name doesn't matter as long as they are distinct. I'll try to do some code for this over the weekend.

The only special thing you need to remember is to turn the peak off before setting the volcano feature on otherwise they float above the peak.

ori · Oct 2, 2011

Starting tomorrow you'll be seeing a lot of volcanic activity around your maps :mischief:

I set it up so that new volcanos add :food:

to the surrounding tiles and remove them when they go extinct - this also means that any volcanos that are placed by the map scripts will see the surrounding tiles lose :food:

when going extinct, cannot help that I am afraid.

Koshling · Oct 2, 2011

ori said:
Starting tomorrow you'll be seeing a lot of volcanic activity around your maps

I set it up so that new volcanos add to the surrounding tiles and remove them when they go extinct - this also means that any volcanos that are placed by the map scripts will see the surrounding tiles lose when going extinct, cannot help that I am afraid.

Why do volcanos add food?

Dancing Hoskuld · Oct 2, 2011

Koshling said:
Why do volcanos add food?

Because thy do in real life, which is why people live near them.

ori · Oct 3, 2011

Koshling said:
Why do volcanos add food?

as DH says, volcanic soil tends to be good for agriculture - until the volcano erupts, that is

Right now I have set it up to add 1 :food:

on each land tile around the Volcano. I will release it hopefully today after I am done with the TXT_KEYs that I still miss. Also there is one additional python check for new Volcanos to include that I forgot...

The way I set up the events for now is as follows (all are active in 100% of games):

New Volcano: (iWeight: 20):
Any tile that a player can see that has no city and no unit on it (will add no bonus before releasing it) can erupt. Eruption adds an active Volcano to the plot and the plots around it gain 1 :food:

, unless they are coast or ocean. Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed. Note: this also can happen in coast and ocean tiles - which adds a land tile then.

Extinct Volcano erupts: (iWeight: 80):
Any tile with Obsidian that a player can see that has no city and no unit on it can erupt. Eruption adds an active Volcano to the plot and the plots around it gain 1 :food:

, unless they are coast or ocean. Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed.

Dormant Volcano erupts: (iWeight: 300):
Any tile with a dormant Volcano (FEATURE_VOLCANO) that a player an see can erupt. Eruption adds an active Volcano (FEATURE_VOLCANO2). Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed.

Active Volcano erupts: (iWeight: 1100):
Any tile with an active Volcano that a player can see can erupt. Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed.

Active Volcano goes dormant: (iWeight: 400):
Active Volcano feature is switched to dormant Volcano feature.

Dormant Volcano goes extinct: (iWeight: 100):
Dormant Volcano feature is removed, the tile gains a rocky hill and Obsidian. The tiles around them lose 1 :food:

, unless they are ocean or coast.

The original Volcano event is disabled. Note: this had an iWeight of 400 meaning that now there are 5 times as many chances for Volcano related events (combined iWeight of these events is currently 2000)...

I am open to changing this setup if there are any objections/wishes for improvement

Hydromancerx · Oct 3, 2011

Wow! I cannot wait to experience them in game. Sounds awesome!

AIAndy · Oct 3, 2011

ori said:
as DH says, volcanic soil tends to be good for agriculture - until the volcano erupts, that is

Right now I have set it up to add 1 on each land tile around the Volcano. I will release it hopefully today after I am done with the TXT_KEYs that I still miss. Also there is one additional python check for new Volcanos to include that I forgot...

The way I set up the events for now is as follows (all are active in 100% of games):

New Volcano: (iWeight: 20):
Any tile that a player can see that has no city and no unit on it (will add no bonus before releasing it) can erupt. Eruption adds an active Volcano to the plot and the plots around it gain 1 , unless they are coast or ocean. Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed. Note: this also can happen in coast and ocean tiles - which adds a land tile then.

Extinct Volcano erupts: (iWeight: 80):
Any tile with Obsidian that a player can see that has no city and no unit on it can erupt. Eruption adds an active Volcano to the plot and the plots around it gain 1 , unless they are coast or ocean. Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed.

Dormant Volcano erupts: (iWeight: 300):
Any tile with a dormant Volcano (FEATURE_VOLCANO) that a player an see can erupt. Eruption adds an active Volcano (FEATURE_VOLCANO2). Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed.

Active Volcano erupts: (iWeight: 1100):
Any tile with an active Volcano that a player can see can erupt. Improvements around the Volcano (and on it) are destroyed.

Active Volcano goes dormant: (iWeight: 400):
Active Volcano feature is switched to dormant Volcano feature.

Dormant Volcano goes extinct: (iWeight: 100):
Dormant Volcano feature is removed, the tile gains a rocky hill and Obsidian. The tiles around them lose 1 , unless they are ocean or coast.

The original Volcano event is disabled. Note: this had an iWeight of 400 meaning that now there are 5 times as many chances for Volcano related events (combined iWeight of these events is currently 2000)...

I am open to changing this setup if there are any objections/wishes for improvement

Great.
Some ideas:
What about having volcanic soil as a feature instead of just adding 1 food to surrouding tiles. Whenever a volcano breaks out it randomly chooses some plots in first circle and some in second circle around the volcano (adjacent to the plots in first circle that were chosen). Then destroy the features and improvements on those tiles and add the volcanic soil feature. Instead of being removed with the volcano it could get its own events for despawning so it happens randomly.
The volcanic soil could get some special improvements. I am thinking about stuff like this kind of winegrowing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_Geria_vines.jpg
Of course that is a matter of having the right graphics.

ori · Oct 3, 2011

I have no problem with that - but it would mean that it would change looks quite a bit (and remove and forests, jungle, flood plains and other stuff that is done through features). So it would impact the map even more...
Right now setting it up for the first ring randomly would be easy for me - I'd need to figure out how to ensure vicinity in the second ring though :hmm:

Edit: also the features would need to fit in with both volcano features used (or new volcanos added) I guess...

AIAndy · Oct 3, 2011

ori said:
I have no problem with that - but it would mean that it would change looks quite a bit (and remove and forests, jungle, flood plains and other stuff that is done through features). So it would impact the map even more...
Right now setting it up for the first ring randomly would be easy for me - I'd need to figure out how to ensure vicinity in the second ring though

Edit: also the features would need to fit in with both volcano features used (or new volcanos added) I guess...

Yes, definitely not low effort so I guess for now keep your old implementation.
Would be cool though to have lava streams that change the surrounding area for some time which recovers later.

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