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[Arakhor]

I usually work with 2000 x hourly wage if you're working a full-time job.

 

[bhavv]

Well that would be £13,000. Alone it wouldn't be enough to afford non shared living.

 

[azzaman333]

I can't see why Australia limits their immigration so much. They sure would make even more dosh out of it.

I also can't see why they are so expensive. As if enrolling in a uni was for free or something.

Overpopulation is a concern. Most people only want to live in a very small area near the major capital cities, almost all of which are on the coastline. Add to that people actively fighting against measures to improve the infrastructure to cater for higher populations for a variety of reasons and the frustratingly ignorant racist group who just don't want foreigners (although this generally means Arabs at the moment) here at all and so costing the visas high is a way to limit that desirability.

 

[JohannaK]

I mean, c'mon, overpopulation? Sure, if you want to keep cities sprawling (which is baaad) then you can fill all the space you have rather quickly, but I think even though most of Australia is desert there's enough land for many many many many more times the current population. Maybe not that many. In any case, this simultaneous urban AND suburban culture is what hurts Australia a lot. The whole population of Australia could live in the land currently within Melbourne and it'd probably still be a low population density by European standards. I'm exaggerating here, but probably less than yod'd think.

 

[Antilogic]

According to wiki, their population is around 24 million, which is smaller than several individual cities if you count their metropolitan areas.

 

[JohannaK]

I know.

 

[Antilogic]

Now I do too. SELF-EDIFICATION ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

So are France, Switzerland, Austria and so many others.

Australian Student visa is 415€ ($450) for me alone.

Trying to escape Europe?

 

[Borachio]

I mean, c'mon, overpopulation? Sure, if you want to keep cities sprawling (which is baaad) then you can fill all the space you have rather quickly, but I think even though most of Australia is desert there's enough land for many many many many more times the current population. Maybe not that many. In any case, this simultaneous urban AND suburban culture is what hurts Australia a lot. The whole population of Australia could live in the land currently within Melbourne and it'd probably still be a low population density by European standards. I'm exaggerating here, but probably less than yod'd think.

My brother lives in Tasmania. And previously lived in Brisbane for 30 years.

He's always harping on about population density, and how he wouldn't be able to bear living anywhere in Europe again. And he never voices concerns which are genuinely his own (I suspect he hasn't any... unless it's something to do with his hypochondria), but just parrots what he's overheard other people saying.

So perhaps "over-population" is of some concern to Australians.

I think, too, they were historically very concerned to keep the dominant culture basically Anglo-Saxon with Irish Catholic overtones (for reasons which are completely mysterious to me). Though that policy has been substantially relaxed in recent decades.

 

[JohannaK]

The problem with Australians is that the like to live in cities AND have their house with a back yard too. That's problematic because it makes public transportation less useful and less efficient (the more spread people are, the less people a bus picks up) and thus incentivizes private transportation, which can easily cause traffic jams, not to mention the pollution all those people generate.

 

[Cutlass]

According to wiki, their population is around 24 million, which is smaller than several individual cities if you count their metropolitan areas.

On a land area approximately the same as the Lower 48....

 

[Cutlass]

The problem with Australians is that the like to live in cities AND have their house with a back yard too. That's problematic because it makes public transportation less useful and less efficient (the more spread people are, the less people a bus picks up) and thus incentivizes private transportation, which can easily cause traffic jams, not to mention the pollution all those people generate.

I think it was Masada was saying that Ausie laws discourage the building of apartment buildings.

 

[Hygro]

Maybe, maybe not ..

True. It's up to you. But you have been saying "I'm thinking about mining some gold" and a stranger loped on by, handing you a pickaxe and pointing at a mountain.

 

[bhavv]

So I just checked my bank balance.

I wasn't paid for 2 days of overtime I did, and also I found out that on 1st Oct, the minimum wage went up to £6.70, and I'm not sure I was paid that much for what I did get.

And they want me to believe that work is somehow meant to be fun. I don't get how people do this full time for their whole lives.

 

[bhavv]

And yay off to work soon ... Feeling like I'm about to throw up all morning :x.

I have a bottle of Gaviscon pills in my pocket to munch on all day.

 

[Borachio]

The problem with Australians is that the like to live in cities AND have their house with a back yard too. That's problematic because it makes public transportation less useful and less efficient (the more spread people are, the less people a bus picks up) and thus incentivizes private transportation, which can easily cause traffic jams, not to mention the pollution all those people generate.

I thought that was a feature of the US.

Still, maybe it's also true of AUStralia.

 

[The_J]

True. It's up to you. But you have been saying "I'm thinking about mining some gold" and a stranger loped on by, handing you a pickaxe and pointing at a mountain.

I'm not a gold digger .

She didn't come by yesterday, so I guess it's up to the parties tonight .

 

[Hygro]

I'm not a gold digger .

She didn't come by yesterday, so I guess it's up to the parties tonight .

I think I just finally internalized a very important lesson today.

 

[azzaman333]

I mean, c'mon, overpopulation? Sure, if you want to keep cities sprawling (which is baaad) then you can fill all the space you have rather quickly, but I think even though most of Australia is desert there's enough land for many many many many more times the current population. Maybe not that many. In any case, this simultaneous urban AND suburban culture is what hurts Australia a lot. The whole population of Australia could live in the land currently within Melbourne and it'd probably still be a low population density by European standards. I'm exaggerating here, but probably less than yod'd think.

Personally, I think a greater provision for more space efficient housing would be a good thing. But it's not as simple as just handing out permits for apartment blocks. There needs to be investment in infrastructure to keep up with the greater density that politicians aren't necessarily willing to supply, and the voting populace in general don't want greater density.

I think it was Masada was saying that Ausie laws discourage the building of apartment buildings.

I don't think it's the laws themselves that prevent it, rather the laws mean that it's possible for the local councils to deny any large development, and it'd be political suicide not to.

 

[jackelgull]

I think I just finally internalized a very important lesson today.

What lesson?