Random Rants LXIX: Life is a Dismal Chore

[Takhisis]

Has the screen become blue?

 

[choxorn]

All I know for sure is that Valka is right about everything, and you should all listen to her.

 

[Synobun]

Someone who ordinarily has an alright enough head on their shoulders has dove off into the deep end with this whole #VoteYes situation in Australia. She was always a bit crass but never really bigoted after several months of knowing her, but once this started... Oh boy.

I had to unfriend her after over two weeks of seeing her comment on a plethora of public Facebook posts about how atrocious it was that the kind Australian people were being forced into complying with the 'gay agenda'. She's now making comments on another site about how "celebs like Ellen DeGeneres should mind their own country's business" and that foreigners shouldn't have opinions about policies in other countries.

It really did come out of the blue, especially since I'd seen her interact with gay people for several months beforehand without a problem. This comes up and suddenly it's vitriolic rhetoric out the wazoo. Yikes.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

All I know for sure is that Valka is right about everything, and you should all listen to her.

Thank you.

Someone who ordinarily has an alright enough head on their shoulders has dove off into the deep end with this whole #VoteYes situation in Australia. She was always a bit crass but never really bigoted after several months of knowing her, but once this started... Oh boy.

I had to unfriend her after over two weeks of seeing her comment on a plethora of public Facebook posts about how atrocious it was that the kind Australian people were being forced into complying with the 'gay agenda'. She's now making comments on another site about how "celebs like Ellen DeGeneres should mind their own country's business" and that foreigners shouldn't have opinions about policies in other countries.

It really did come out of the blue, especially since I'd seen her interact with gay people for several months beforehand without a problem. This comes up and suddenly it's vitriolic rhetoric out the wazoo. Yikes.

I've seen discussions on other sites... apparently there's a former tennis player there who's ranting that if this goes through, there will no longer be Mother's Day, Father's Day, and no more Christmas or Easter.

I'm pretty sure not even the craziest same-sex marriage opponent in Canada was scared that Christmas would be canceled. I can't fathom thinking like that - because Santa would be too busy having gay sex with the elves to bother bringing the kids' presents? Or maybe Jesus would be so mad at everyone that he'd get himself unborn from this universe and go to a different one so they can have Christmas and Easter?

 

[r16]

ı really don't know what to do with my kinda unique problem ; namely along the lines of "Make no damage if you can't fix it" . ı have an unjustified reputation of accurate observance of events and everything ı post gets dissected to find something out of it . ı have lived through the days the purpose would be stuff to get a couple of nails on me . These days are worse , with kids concerned . About their future and the lot , of all things ! Say , how about keeping to your studies and ı don't know , just as an example , learning English to a better standart that seems to be rather prevalent . When ı joined CFC , the use of foreign languages were acceptable , as long as a translation came with them . For example : "Mustang Türktür, Türk kalacaktır diye bir şey dedim mi?" means did ı ever say the P-51 was a Turkish design and am about to claim the honour of such ? Machine translation of course would give anything and everything except mine but kinda nobody doubts that am read by people who know both English and Turkish better than me ; the translations as provided by me are "true" . The whole damned text clearly states it was an exercise on paper in the early 1930s carried by the Americans and widely distributed to aviation companies and stuff . Or "Matah bişey olsaydı bir iki tane alınırdı" exactly means a couple would be acquired if it was any good.


because , the people are so filled by the overblown propaganda of the times and silly TV series that they are deceiving themselves to decide that am not only claiming but proving the existance of two Turkeys . The phrase New Turkey is an invention of the 21st Century as the Party destroys the Republic established in 1923 , because America wants anyone who survives the transformation to become Arabs . Arabs are as worthy as anyone to exist , they have a long and proud history , a reputable culture , so many positives . Their negatives are also as many as the Western Civilization or any other , failures of people are remarkably similar , etc etc , but the thing is oil sheiks and the lot have enough Arabs of their own ; they don't need so many new converts . See , it's entirely possible that this post will fill the whole page and will not even scratch the surface of what could have been said . Oil Sheiks do not want to come and do it on their own and their friends have to do it slowly because if they blow it up the oil sheiks will simply abandon them , hence the Old Turkey was a plot of the minorities and everything that was done back than was wrong , has to be "corrected" to 180 degrees opposite . Claiming that there was once a Turkey that could design 10 years in advance is advocating the New Turkey is a much better thing that deserves the world in its entirity , because as one can see the Old can not do anything to the New . Two Turkeys do not exist , there haven't been ... And ı certainly have not been saying anything , let alone proving anything . 1984s run on people who rat on their best friends for a gain ; any interest on what r16 might be rambling about will only get you , young people , listed in the lists that might one day get you to a state where you can't find a job or stuff . You have a girlfriend and this is what you talk ?

 

[Kyriakos]

You seem more agitated than usual, r16. And that is something by itself
Do you foresee deepening crisis in the new?

 

[Sommerswerd]

You were blasting noise without regard for your neighbours. Then once they managed (admitedly in a passive-aggressive way) to convey their displeasure, you not only failed to correct your behaviour, but even increased it, and in a completely, ridiculously overboard way (several days of loud music, seriously ?).
I don't really see how my interpretation is incorrect even if it wasn't the actual point you were trying to convey.

I'm painfully aware of that. The prisoner's dilemma means that if everyone just weren't dick toward each others, everyone would gain. But sadly, just like everywhere, a few jerks can ruins it for everyone.

Thing is, both can play this game, and while the victim knows who is making noise, the noise-maker has the whole neighbourhood as suspects unless the victim comes and purposedly makes himself known.

I should have worded my response more precisely. I wasn't saying your characterization of my behavior was incorrect. As I said it was fair. We were being inconsiderate, blasting our music that way. What you were incorrect about was when you said "the lesson is that we should"... That was not the "lesson"/point that I was conveying, which you seemed to say you actually were "painfully aware of" in a latter post. I do understand that you are wanting to take me to task a little for my inconsiderate behavior back then, which again is fair.

Oh, my peeve there was that the the common view of discipline in parenting is not supported all that well by scientific research and that the framework you appeared to set your argument in (i may have misunderstood you) is consequently inappropriate in that these are not some corresponding columns.
Being taught not to be loud in Valka's hallway doesn't have to detract from being, what was it, "inquisitive and independent".
In retrospect - and from the way i know you - i suspect we actually agree on this and merely talked past each other.
Then the time investment that you mentioned comes into focus, and this is - i suppose - where Valka's and my gripe rests: If it was annoying to the parents themselves the chance that they would have mustered the necessary energy and time would be... well, bigger at least.

Btw: I have taken about 4 swings allready trying to write a decent comment on that restaurant business you mentioned. Thrown all drafts out, largely because i can't see how i could write anything that you don't allready know.
Obviously it's a fairly large aggression (nothing "micro" about it) and they are out of line.
Probably they mean well, for whatever little that is worth.

I don't disagree with anything you are saying. Again, all I am doing is acknowledging the difficulty parents face. Sometimes I think that people, including parents TBH, look at other parents and say "Pffft, Its so simple! Why don't they just do X!" That's the sentiment I am pushing back a little against, because I know that in most cases, they are trying, its just that they aren't getting the subjectively desired result, for whatever reason.

I realize that I might have misinterpreted things a bit, and if so, I apologize. What I meant to say is that of course it's going to bother you if it seems that people are complimenting you on your kids for the wrong reason. However, without asking them why they complimented you, it's hard to know why they said what they did. It might be genuine, it might be backhanded, there might be bigotry implied... it's hard to say, and each situation is a bit different, isn't it? My advice to simply say "thank you" means that whatever their reasons were, you are the one who is definitely the courteous one, and it's also a valuable lesson to teach your kids. I know I complain about how my mother acted for much of the time we lived together and some encounters afterward, but one good thing she taught me was that if someone complimented me (for whatever reason), the correct response was "thank you." If the other party was expecting any other sort of reaction, that's their problem. You're the one doing the right thing, and your kids will learn from your example.

I agree that simply saying "Thank You" and leaving it at that is the best response, and in-fact, that is what I always do, without exception, although I usually say "Thank you very much" or "Thank you that's very kind"... As you've heard me say numerous times, you really just can't die on every single hill. Life is too short, and happiness, and inner peace are far too precious and fleeting...

 

[Gori the Grey]

you really just can't die on every single hill

You can only die on one. Unless you're a cat.

 

[warpus]

It's probably a lot more probable that you'd die in a trench or some other thing that's the opposite of a hill

 

[Lexicus]

You can only die on one. Unless you're a cat.

I'll have you know that as a veteran of the Internet Wars I have personally died on over 3,400 hills

 

[Synobun]

I'll have you know that as a veteran of the Internet Wars I have personally died on over 3,400 hills

Have the hills considered forming a union?

 

[Sommerswerd]

You can only die on one. Unless you're a cat.

Or Jon Snow

Have the hills considered forming a union?

No... but they do have "eyes"...

And he's not talking about that kind of "dying" anyway... plus even if he was, they don't let those types of workers unionize, because rules... and sexism... dirty, dirty sexism.

 

[Gori the Grey]

You can only die on one. Unless you're a cat.

Or a coward, it later occurs to me to add.

 

[JohannaK]

I am mildly indignant that the Madrid government is breaking every rule in the book to prevent a vote from happening.

What modern democracy doesn't do that, right? But it is a bit of an annoyance.

 

[Arakhor]

Catalan democracy does that, apparently, given that I heard that it was an illegal vote in the first place.

 

[Akka]

I am mildly indignant that the Madrid government is breaking every rule in the book to prevent a vote from happening.

Actually it seems they just plainly enforces the rules, and it's the independantists who are breaking them left and right.

 

[Traitorfish]

Catalan democracy does that, apparently, given that I heard that it was an illegal vote in the first place.

There's a difference, surely, between a provincial government holding a referendum on which it has very limited power to act, and the central government intervening in the local affairs of Catalonia to suppress its political opponents?

 

[Akka]

There's a difference, surely, between a provincial government holding a referendum on which it has very limited power to act, and the central government intervening in the local affairs of Catalonia to suppress its political opponents?

Yep, there is a big difference : the provincial government started something that is illegal and unconstitutional, while the national government is keeping the law.

 

[JohannaK]

If you claim to be enforcing the law and break the law to do so, you are as bad as whoever you are trying to stop. Now if what you are trying to stop is an electoral process, you are even worse.

I didnt know fascism was so healthy around here.

 

[Akka]

If you claim to be enforcing the law and break the law to do so, you are as bad as whoever you are trying to stop. Now if what you are trying to stop is an electoral process, you are even worse.

What laws have been broken ?
Why stopping an illegal process is bad ?

I didnt know fascism was so healthy around here.

Probably because you don't know what fascism is.

OH WAIT, that's another example of "let's call fascists anyone who disagrees with my fantasy-based reality" !