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I'm starting to get fed up with the press feeling as though it has to treat every bat[censored]crazy thing Trump says seriously: bring in spokespeople on both sides to parse what he is likely to have meant, carefully lay out how he couldn't have meant that, etc.

I know it's their job not to just let things slide. And they have gotten better in just flatly rejecting the Trump people's absurd claims. But even just this pretense that they have run each comment through a "could he have meant something legitimate?" treatment is giving his comments a degree of legitimacy they don't deserve.

Alternate approach: "Yes, viewers, Donald Trump did say his bat[censored]crazy thing for today. In other news . . ."
 
Sorry, if someone is insulted by this, but Americans really seem to be into incest. I don't know any other culture wherein you can be someone's daddy "in a sexual way". And it doesn't stop even here, there's "sexy mommies" and in love songs the object of love may be sister... It's highly weird.

Then there's the American trope of over "protecting" father, who doesn't want anyone to have sex with her daughter, which people every where else in the world recognize as incestuous jealousness.

Or the insult that refers to people engaging in coitus with their mothers, which thoug, I believe isn't nonexistent in UK or Southern Europe either, but which I at least found absolutely appalling when learning it's meaning. (Although, as an insult, that's it's purpose, so it's a job well done).
And then again in Finnish you have insults relating to gonads (mulkku, vittu) or professions (huora). It takes all kinds.
 
None of this is really prevalent at all except the overprotective father. Which I have to admit is pretty stupid.
 
I uninstalled Crysis 2 and for some inexplicable reason, the uninstaller deleted not only Crysis 2 but my entire library of games purchased and downloaded from GamersGate. WTH?
 
@ Valka - That is very sad news. I am sorry to hear about your friend.:(
It's pretty sad news. I wonder if CFC survives next 50 years so I have to experience people from here passing away. Would be heartbreaking.
Sorry for the loss of your friend, Valka :(
Thanks, all. I appreciate your kind words. A lot of people miss her, and of course it may seem trivial to some who think that online relationships are ephemeral or "just pixels and bits," but years of shared fun, discussions, and even the occasional argument add up to something that's at least as real as snailmail pen pals.

@Dusters: I've had the experience numerous times of losing an online acquaintance or friend when they die. And yes, it can be heartbreaking. I still wonder about the young man on my Doctor Who forum, who we discovered died by suicide. I keep wondering if there were any signs that were missed in his posts, if there was anything at all any of us could have done to help him... we'll never know.

Many years ago, the first RPG forum I belonged to allowed an underage boy to join - because his mother and uncle were forum members, and he loved role-playing games (especially Fuzzy Knights - "Mossfoot ruuuules!"). It hit everyone hard when he had an accident - fell down some stairs, hit his head, and died from his injuries. He wasn't even 10 years old. Years later another member of that forum died... this time of illness. She was elderly, but never lost her enthusiasm for gaming and mentored a lot of the younger players, me among them. When she died, people on four gaming forums went into mourning.

And there have been others, on forums, social media boards, in email groups... we nearly lost Robert Silverberg last year, to a heart attack (he survived). I guess where I'm going with this is that it definitely is sad to lose online friends and acquaintances. Most of us will never meet in person, but we're real to each other, and it does matter when sad things happen.

...i feel zero empathy for someone dying, because of my religious views. Therefore I tried to rationalize it a bit to see if it changes anything for me.
I'm atheist, yet I don't see that as a reason not to have empathy for someone dying. Mind you, it does depend on the circumstances. I wasn't able to summon up even the slightest shred of empathy for my dad's last girlfriend when she was in the hospital. She'd done her best to play "divide and conquer" among my dad, grandmother, and me for 17 years, so when she was gone, I just heaved a sigh of relief, bid her good riddance, and then had to deal with the collection agencies who were after her. They didn't get very far.

how do we know if anyone's real tho
I do all of you here the courtesy of assuming you're real people.

It's sometimes hard to tell, though. A long while ago there was a thread that went on here in OT for weeks before the realization set in that the people replying to the thread were conversing with a spammer advertising a YouTube music channel.


I had an argument with a RL person several years ago. She thinks that when I type comments on a forum I'm really just talking to myself because nobody online is real. I asked her why she thought that, and she said, "Because you can't see them." So I reminded her that when people send snailmail letters to people, you can't see who you're writing to, so they must not be real, either. She responded, "That's different."
 
@Valka

Yea, I get where you are going with this. It is just that, I'm not a person to say "sorry for your loss" if I don't mean it. And when you posted that one of your cats died, I could relate really well. About someone you knew on an internet forum - not so much.

To me - I have had a lot of online "friends" over past 15 years. People from different places with whom I exchanged e-mails, played games together, chatted on MSN messenger. Almost all of them are history, and by history I mean - they moved on with their life, or I moved on. So they are "dead" to me. Although they may be very well in real life, in internet our "orbits don't cross anymore", so no matter the real life, the person I loved to interact with online is "dead".

It is a bit similar with acquaintances from youth/teen years. Like - there were some girls I used to hang out with, we went to jazz concerts, we talked about art, it was great. Then they changed their interests and moved on. I catch myself saying - "The year 2009 version of her was so cool, after that alignments changed and she became dead to me".

And all this got me thinking if I'm being different, if it has to do something with religion, with me being a cold person or is it something else.
 
@Valka

Yea, I get where you are going with this. It is just that, I'm not a person to say "sorry for your loss" if I don't mean it. And when you posted that one of your cats died, I could relate really well. About someone you knew on an internet forum - not so much.

To me - I have had a lot of online "friends" over past 15 years. People from different places with whom I exchanged e-mails, played games together, chatted on MSN messenger. Almost all of them are history, and by history I mean - they moved on with their life, or I moved on. So they are "dead" to me. Although they may be very well in real life, in internet our "orbits don't cross anymore", so no matter the real life, the person I loved to interact with online is "dead".

It is a bit similar with acquaintances from youth/teen years. Like - there were some girls I used to hang out with, we went to jazz concerts, we talked about art, it was great. Then they changed their interests and moved on. I catch myself saying - "The year 2009 version of her was so cool, after that alignments changed and she became dead to me".

And all this got me thinking if I'm being different, if it has to do something with religion, with me being a cold person or is it something else.
I wasn't suggesting that you should express condolences if you don't mean it. I'm not asking people to lie about their feelings. People should be honest, but they should also respect the deceased's family and friends. I got a whole ton of "God's will" and "she's in a better place now" when my grandmother died. It no doubt made the other people feel better to say those things. It didn't do anything at all for me other than cause annoyance. It wasn't God's will that killed my grandmother. It was an aneurysm, which thankfully spared her any further suffering from Alzheimers.

I get what you mean by people changing and moving in different directions. Someone I was friends with in high school, college, and years after that is now someone I hardly recognize. Not physically - she hasn't changed much that way - but the hateful things in her social media posts have me wondering if I should ask why she's done a 180o turn from how things were, or if I should just delete this link to someone who was my debate partner in school, with whom I worked in musical theatre, attended college, went to science fiction conventions... :(

It takes a lot to consider someone "dead to me". Unfortunately, that status was achieved by a now former friend just within the last three weeks. This wasn't a case of people growing apart over the years. It was sudden, and something I don't forgive.
 
And then again in Finnish you have insults relating to gonads (mulkku, vittu) or professions (huora). It takes all kinds.

Well, there are unplesant qualities associated to gonads, there were probably more of them when hygiene wasn't in fashion. Still makes more sense than the order for someone to go and fornicate himself. What does that even mean? Masturbate? Isn't that a nice thing? Besides, how an order can be an insult, as you aren't required to obey it?

Some of the popular American tv- and movie-insults suggest that the insulter wants to have sex with the insultee. Isn't that odd?

Maybe it's just that insults aren't very smart. They aren't coherent, and usually they aren't prudent either.

None of this is really prevalent at all except the overprotective father. Which I have to admit is pretty stupid.

Ok, but I doubt there are many cultures in which those kind of expressions would make any sense at all.
 
They only make sense to Americans world because they're such strong taboos. The only one which actually describes commonplace behaviour is the over-protective father, and, as you say, that makes a lot of people uncomfortable because it feels like a sort of emotional incest.
 
I wasn't suggesting that you should express condolences if you don't mean it. I'm not asking people to lie about their feelings. People should be honest, but they should also respect the deceased's family and friends. I got a whole ton of "God's will" and "she's in a better place now" when my grandmother died. It no doubt made the other people feel better to say those things. It didn't do anything at all for me other than cause annoyance. It wasn't God's will that killed my grandmother. It was an aneurysm, which thankfully spared her any further suffering from Alzheimers.

I get what you mean by people changing and moving in different directions. Someone I was friends with in high school, college, and years after that is now someone I hardly recognize. Not physically - she hasn't changed much that way - but the hateful things in her social media posts have me wondering if I should ask why she's done a 180o turn from how things were, or if I should just delete this link to someone who was my debate partner in school, with whom I worked in musical theatre, attended college, went to science fiction conventions... :(

It takes a lot to consider someone "dead to me". Unfortunately, that status was achieved by a now former friend just within the last three weeks. This wasn't a case of people growing apart over the years. It was sudden, and something I don't forgive.

I agree and really like everything what you said here. To me people who become "dead to me" usually either get overly religious, start drinking/doing drugs, or their approach to life becomes way too different compared to mine - usually too materialistic and calculating.

I'm really grateful you are on CFC.

All my older relatives have died, except for grandfather, I have no female role models I can relate to. I have gotten impression that you know what good art is, how to distinguish good science from pseudoscience, you don't hold radical views and are open to discussion most of the time, you have a good deal of critical thinking and you like cats. That's a lot of things I would like to teach to my little sister and kids I'm teaching.
 
I agree and really like everything what you said here. To me people who become "dead to me" usually either get overly religious, start drinking/doing drugs, or their approach to life becomes way too different compared to mine - usually too materialistic and calculating.

I'm really grateful you are on CFC.

All my older relatives have died, except for grandfather, I have no female role models I can relate to. I have gotten impression that you know what good art is, how to distinguish good science from pseudoscience, you don't hold radical views and are open to discussion most of the time, you have a good deal of critical thinking and you like cats. That's a lot of things I would like to teach to my little sister and kids I'm teaching.
Thank you, I'm honored.

One thing I've learned is that one person's "sensible pov" is another person's "radical view." That's not to say that I shrug off the views I consider radical, if they advocate harm or taking away peoples' rights.


Somewhat related rant (on the topic of cats): The neighbor's kitten is on my balcony. For the umpteenth time, and perched on the railing above a very high drop that would kill her if she lost her balance. It's gotten to the point where I leave a bowl of water out there for her in case she gets shut out and they forget about her, but today has me really annoyed. It's not the kitten's fault that they let her out, forgot about her, took off somewhere, and a thunderstorm is coming. Yes, I'll take her in if it starts storming before they get home, because there's no place for her to go for shelter out there.

They blame the kids for letting her out, and yeah, I can understand that a 3-year-old might think it's fun to let the cat out. But the adults should be checking on the cat. I shudder to think what's coming in the next few months when the kitten is a) old enough to be spayed; and b) winter comes. I've already had the experience of finding a frozen cat outside my door. I don't want another.
 
Well, there are unplesant qualities associated to gonads, there were probably more of them when hygiene wasn't in fashion. Still makes more sense than the order for someone to go and fornicate himself. What does that even mean? Masturbate? Isn't that a nice thing? Besides, how an order can be an insult, as you aren't required to obey it?

Some of the popular American tv- and movie-insults suggest that the insulter wants to have sex with the insultee. Isn't that odd?

Maybe it's just that insults aren't very smart. They aren't coherent, and usually they aren't prudent either.
Well, they are insults. They do not need to make much sense. And English does have a history of breaking down expressions:
cheap at half the price
head over heels
tell me about it​
among others
 
@Valka

I have a similar thing with neighbours' cat. Our balconies are next to each other, ours is left open from time to time meaning that their cat can freely enter our flat if it wants to. Usually nothing bad happens, as it almost always finds way back, but I'm still a bit worried.

I don't know what would happen if a storm started, if balcony's door gets shut while the cat is inside, etc. On the bright side, I live on the second floor, there is no risk of cat falling down.
 
Why is that a Rant? The Nightly Show kinda sucked.
 
So tired of hearing up-and-coming YouTubers complaining about people using AdBlock. They say it is like stealing from content creators. That's a bunch of crap if you ask me. Even though YouTubers can get paid, there is nothing about the platform that says YouTubers are guaranteed to get paid for their content.

The ones who complain about AdBlock are the kind of workshy losers who want to just sit at home and make YouTube videos instead of going out and actually contributing to human society in order to earn money. People like that make me wish money was never brought into the equation with YouTube. I, as a content creator, fully support the use of AdBlock on YouTube. I have fan funding enabled on my channel so I only get paid if my viewers feel like my content is good enough.
 
Well, I agree that directing crowd-funding is probably a more effective way of supporting content creation than ad-revenue. Seems like you could make the same point without calling people "work-shy losers", though.
 
Well, I agree that directing crowd-funding is probably a more effective way of supporting content creation than ad-revenue. Seems like you could make the same point without calling people "work-shy losers", though.

I'm not saying every YouTuber is a workshy loser, I'm just saying that it's the workshy losers who are just on YouTube to make a quick buck that are complaining about the use of AdBlock. I mean, you don't really see the veteran YouTubers that have made a career for themselves complaining about AdBlock. That's because they are actually serious about it as their business and realized that coming out against AdBlock would cost them viewers. And without viewers, they lose sponsorship deals, which is how any good YouTuber makes their money nowadays.
 
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