RBC15c - Russia (DD:Demigod for Domination)
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Doc Tsiolkovski
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We would have to fight them at some point anyway. I'm in turn 4 now, and we have only 9% to go 
(Though I had to get rid of quite a number of Janissaries...).
(Though I had to get rid of quite a number of Janissaries...).
Jabah
Emperor
Just to tell you that I am there until Tuesday, then off for 12 days.
Should be able to play my next turn.
Jabah
Should be able to play my next turn.
Jabah
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
That's fine, I think I can finish my last 2 turns today evening, and I'd guess we'll win this before you're up a second time.
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
RBC15c 1808AD
First, I still see a lot of cities actively building Grand Batteries or improvements GB/ city improvements do not receive the mobilization bonus. Also, I can hire a lot of additional specialists.
Rise Lux to 10%, to trigger some WltKDs, and still make about 50gpt more.
Did I already mention I hate open cities near the frontline?
IBT:
The Ottoman SoDs do not attack, but move N towards Tarnopol
Stack of Hussars moves towards Posen.
Turn 1: Jul., 1808AD
Capture Cracow. Bomb and kill numerous units of numerous Civs.
IBT:
Sweden wants an audience umm, no.
KoN wants a MPP again, no.
Spain and Austria sign peace. Spain and Ottomans sign peace.
A flood of Janissaries enter our territory. And a gazillion of British ships approach Sweden.
We loose our supply of Gems, and our own source is pillaged.
Turn 2: Sep., 1808AD
Sign back Spain against Austria for 220gp. Play carefully, and dont move our GB against Norsundet to be able to handle a British landing.
Kill stuff.
Hire a lot of Clowns.
IBT:
Austria wants an audience no.
Ottomans and KoN sign an embargo against us.
Arg...Britain doesnt land in Sweden, theyre aiming for Prussia
Turn 3: Nov., 1808AD
Capture Cosice; comes with a GB, and we have Gems again. Kill a couple of Janissaries (they are really all over the place!) next to it.
IBT:
About 6 Janissaries impale against Guards fortified near Tarnopol, protecting our umpteenth Furs
Other Ottoman units make odd moves.
Spain and Sweden sign peace.
Royal Navy (15+ ships) retreats from the Baltic Sea for no apparent reason.
Turn 4: Jan., 1809AD
Capture Norsundet (having to kill only conscript Musketmen really helps), and destroy the weak Swedish. 31/32 land/pop.
Since were demobilized anyway, I buy General Education from Spain for 72gpt, and start Public Schools in all those cities permanently on the verge to riot. Start some Courts as well, and rush a few improvements.
IBT:
Royal Navy decides to return into the Baltic Sea
Lots of Public Schools finish.
Turn 5: Mar., 1809AD
Cancel MA against Britain with Spain. Make peace with the British, we need our Swedish Armies, and theyd sink any ships there. Costs us 40gp.
Clean up some intruders.
Start the siege of Vienna bombarding reveals 7 Vet Grenzers there. Kill 2 of them with a Cossack Army.
NOTES:
- Theres a Troop Transport in Danzig, but I wouldnt move it out without escort (Privateers). Our 2 Frigates escort another Army more N (plus an empty TT, but Id guess this one is pretty safe on its own).
- Next player should be able to take out Vienna.
- Didnt remobilize, since we could buy Sanitation for Wines+WM+52gpt from Britain. I would make the deal, since thatll mean gpt deals with all bigger nations were at peace. We dont need the population to win, but we have a number of cities that would really benefit from Hospitals.
- Despite dozens of Elite victories, I had no luck with leaders.
- The Ottomans didnt send much units recently, guess we could start on Sulina now.
- I suggest to simply keep taking out the Austrians, and then continue S with the Ottomans. Note there is an unclaimed Dye S of Zagreb, begging for a colony.
Status:
31.4/32 land/pop, VPs at 31065. No one anywhere close (France is incredibly passive, and has only 14445 never seen that).
Austria has 4.9 land, Ottomans 12.6
The save
First, I still see a lot of cities actively building Grand Batteries or improvements GB/ city improvements do not receive the mobilization bonus. Also, I can hire a lot of additional specialists.
Rise Lux to 10%, to trigger some WltKDs, and still make about 50gpt more.
Did I already mention I hate open cities near the frontline?
IBT:
The Ottoman SoDs do not attack, but move N towards Tarnopol
Stack of Hussars moves towards Posen.
Turn 1: Jul., 1808AD
Capture Cracow. Bomb and kill numerous units of numerous Civs.
IBT:
Sweden wants an audience umm, no.
KoN wants a MPP again, no.
Spain and Austria sign peace. Spain and Ottomans sign peace.
A flood of Janissaries enter our territory. And a gazillion of British ships approach Sweden.
We loose our supply of Gems, and our own source is pillaged.
Turn 2: Sep., 1808AD
Sign back Spain against Austria for 220gp. Play carefully, and dont move our GB against Norsundet to be able to handle a British landing.
Kill stuff.
Hire a lot of Clowns.
IBT:
Austria wants an audience no.
Ottomans and KoN sign an embargo against us.
Arg...Britain doesnt land in Sweden, theyre aiming for Prussia
Turn 3: Nov., 1808AD
Capture Cosice; comes with a GB, and we have Gems again. Kill a couple of Janissaries (they are really all over the place!) next to it.
IBT:
About 6 Janissaries impale against Guards fortified near Tarnopol, protecting our umpteenth Furs
Other Ottoman units make odd moves.Spain and Sweden sign peace.
Royal Navy (15+ ships) retreats from the Baltic Sea for no apparent reason.
Turn 4: Jan., 1809AD
Capture Norsundet (having to kill only conscript Musketmen really helps), and destroy the weak Swedish. 31/32 land/pop.
Since were demobilized anyway, I buy General Education from Spain for 72gpt, and start Public Schools in all those cities permanently on the verge to riot. Start some Courts as well, and rush a few improvements.
IBT:
Royal Navy decides to return into the Baltic Sea
Lots of Public Schools finish.
Turn 5: Mar., 1809AD
Cancel MA against Britain with Spain. Make peace with the British, we need our Swedish Armies, and theyd sink any ships there. Costs us 40gp.
Clean up some intruders.
Start the siege of Vienna bombarding reveals 7 Vet Grenzers there. Kill 2 of them with a Cossack Army.
NOTES:
- Theres a Troop Transport in Danzig, but I wouldnt move it out without escort (Privateers). Our 2 Frigates escort another Army more N (plus an empty TT, but Id guess this one is pretty safe on its own).
- Next player should be able to take out Vienna.
- Didnt remobilize, since we could buy Sanitation for Wines+WM+52gpt from Britain. I would make the deal, since thatll mean gpt deals with all bigger nations were at peace. We dont need the population to win, but we have a number of cities that would really benefit from Hospitals.
- Despite dozens of Elite victories, I had no luck with leaders.
- The Ottomans didnt send much units recently, guess we could start on Sulina now.
- I suggest to simply keep taking out the Austrians, and then continue S with the Ottomans. Note there is an unclaimed Dye S of Zagreb, begging for a colony.
Status:
31.4/32 land/pop, VPs at 31065. No one anywhere close (France is incredibly passive, and has only 14445 never seen that).
Austria has 4.9 land, Ottomans 12.6
The save
Jabah
Emperor
Just back to the forum now, unfortunatly I still have lots of thing to prepare for holiday.
I am not sure I would be able to find enough time to play properly, so I am asking for a skip now.
Winning seems to be in good shape, just be carefull to win properly (by domination) therefore maybe go after smaller cities ? (or maybe we have enough security, ie not too many points)
Good luck
Jabah
I am not sure I would be able to find enough time to play properly, so I am asking for a skip now.
Winning seems to be in good shape, just be carefull to win properly (by domination) therefore maybe go after smaller cities ? (or maybe we have enough security, ie not too many points)
Good luck
Jabah
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
well, it looks like i'm up then. i'm up in sgotm3 tonight as well so i probably won't get to this till tuesday night unless microbe wants to swap.
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
All Austrian cities are size 12, and most of them are VP locations as well. Same for all Ottoman cities in Europe.
But since the British have mostly Metros already, I guess both Austria and Ottomans are mobilized, so at least their cities shouldn't grow faster.
We are surprisingly sure in terms of VPs, I think. This was an absolutely unusual game, with France doing nearly nothing - so far, they captured a single city (Amsterdam), and razed 3 (Milan, Frankfurt, Ravenna)...
Have a nice holiday, Jabah
But since the British have mostly Metros already, I guess both Austria and Ottomans are mobilized, so at least their cities shouldn't grow faster.
We are surprisingly sure in terms of VPs, I think. This was an absolutely unusual game, with France doing nearly nothing - so far, they captured a single city (Amsterdam), and razed 3 (Milan, Frankfurt, Ravenna)...
Have a nice holiday, Jabah
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Preflight check: Looks good, rotate a couple of guards so we can cover and exposed GB. Also move down another cav. I notice we are assaulting Vienna from across a river. I guess since they were only Grenzers defending? Rush a PS and a guard in the N, also play with some police units to shave turns off builds.
IBT: Stack of 6 Janisarys from Ottomans come N.
T1: May 1809AD Rush another Bank and a PS. Ill remobilize next turn.
Near Chisinau: GBs go 3 for 6 against Jans; Kill 2 with Guard Army. The others are hurt but barely so Ill let them retreat home for now till we get more Cossacks in shape there.
Near Vienna: Move our SoD SW onto iron hill so we dont have to attack across a river next turn.
T2: July 1809AD At Vienna: GBs go perfect, hitting every time, revealing a lot of Grenzers; Army kills 3 Grenzers; Take the city kills about 8 more Grenzers, losing 1 Cossack and making high use of blitzes.
We can get Sanitation but it always involves a lux so I hold off for now.
IBT: Danes offer MPP but I decline; Ottoman troops start heading W like theres some sort of catastrophe about to happen.
T3: Sept 1809AD GBs do an excellent job @ Saltzberg and we take the city, costing us 1 Cossack and retreating a few but also netting a couple GBs.
Move last Army onto a troop transport. It will reach the main continent next turn.
I mobilize as we are not doing much in terms of happiness building.
IBT: Denmark and Austria sign peace; Austria and France sign peace; Ottomans declare on the Spanish
T4: Nov 1809AD Nearly break 2 armys but take Budapest, losing 3 Cossacks.
Looks like the Ottoman shift was brought on by the invasion by France. I notice that we do not have any deals with France right now. They need silks but thats it.
IBT: Ottomans move strongly for Budapest.
Mostly healing. 3 armys are now in Budapest or Vienna. 2 are healing due to abuse. Both wont be ready for 2T as I had to move them this turn.
T5: Jan 1809AD Kill 2 Sapahi near Budapest.
Mostly healing. 3 armys are now in Budapest or Vienna. 2 are healing due to abuse. Both wont be ready for 2T as I had to move them this turn. Guard Army in the East is completely healed. We should have enough troops down there to start taking cities.
33%/35% size/pop
IBT: Stack of 6 Janisarys from Ottomans come N.
T1: May 1809AD Rush another Bank and a PS. Ill remobilize next turn.
Near Chisinau: GBs go 3 for 6 against Jans; Kill 2 with Guard Army. The others are hurt but barely so Ill let them retreat home for now till we get more Cossacks in shape there.
Near Vienna: Move our SoD SW onto iron hill so we dont have to attack across a river next turn.
T2: July 1809AD At Vienna: GBs go perfect, hitting every time, revealing a lot of Grenzers; Army kills 3 Grenzers; Take the city kills about 8 more Grenzers, losing 1 Cossack and making high use of blitzes.
We can get Sanitation but it always involves a lux so I hold off for now.
IBT: Danes offer MPP but I decline; Ottoman troops start heading W like theres some sort of catastrophe about to happen.
T3: Sept 1809AD GBs do an excellent job @ Saltzberg and we take the city, costing us 1 Cossack and retreating a few but also netting a couple GBs.
Move last Army onto a troop transport. It will reach the main continent next turn.
I mobilize as we are not doing much in terms of happiness building.
IBT: Denmark and Austria sign peace; Austria and France sign peace; Ottomans declare on the Spanish
T4: Nov 1809AD Nearly break 2 armys but take Budapest, losing 3 Cossacks.
Looks like the Ottoman shift was brought on by the invasion by France. I notice that we do not have any deals with France right now. They need silks but thats it.
IBT: Ottomans move strongly for Budapest.
Mostly healing. 3 armys are now in Budapest or Vienna. 2 are healing due to abuse. Both wont be ready for 2T as I had to move them this turn.
T5: Jan 1809AD Kill 2 Sapahi near Budapest.
Mostly healing. 3 armys are now in Budapest or Vienna. 2 are healing due to abuse. Both wont be ready for 2T as I had to move them this turn. Guard Army in the East is completely healed. We should have enough troops down there to start taking cities.
33%/35% size/pop
microbe
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Preturn: hmm, only 8 nations left. We still have 7% to go. Good thing is Austria is about to die and that would allow us to concentrate on Ottomans to speed this up.
IBT lots of Ottoman units. We caught Ottoman's spy. We are the most powerful nation in the world.
(1)March, 1810AD: I drop lux to zero and do some MM.
Bombard around Budapest.
(2)May, 1810AD: movement.
(3)Jul, 1810AD: more movement.
IBT Austria declares on France.
(4)Sep, 1810AD: lose one elite cossack and we capture Zagreb. Quite a few retreats and capture Sulina without loss. We are 35% right now.
Clean up some units in our territory and lose 3 cossacks. Rush two cossacks. Move guards out of cities to fortify on critical paths.
IBT we lose one guard and win several. France captures Venice.
(5)Nov, 1810AD: movement.
East: Bucharest should fall in 2 turns.
West: We are ready to take Belgrade next turn. Should we leave Sibiu to the AI? I am not sure if we'll get too many VPs by eliminating a civ. If not, we can take it after Belgrade.
IBT lots of Ottoman units. We caught Ottoman's spy. We are the most powerful nation in the world.
(1)March, 1810AD: I drop lux to zero and do some MM.
Bombard around Budapest.
(2)May, 1810AD: movement.
(3)Jul, 1810AD: more movement.
IBT Austria declares on France.
(4)Sep, 1810AD: lose one elite cossack and we capture Zagreb. Quite a few retreats and capture Sulina without loss. We are 35% right now.
Clean up some units in our territory and lose 3 cossacks. Rush two cossacks. Move guards out of cities to fortify on critical paths.
IBT we lose one guard and win several. France captures Venice.
(5)Nov, 1810AD: movement.
East: Bucharest should fall in 2 turns.
West: We are ready to take Belgrade next turn. Should we leave Sibiu to the AI? I am not sure if we'll get too many VPs by eliminating a civ. If not, we can take it after Belgrade.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
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Doc Tsiolkovski
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Sorry, had no net access for a couple of days....
Got it.
Got it.
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
Sorry for the delay, had a lot of work the last days. Should be able to play tomorrow.
btw:
btw:
No defence bonus from rivers in this conquest.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
@microbe: since you are going away on the 25th, you will likely be too busy on the 24th to play this. do you want to swap this round so you can get a final shot in? I don't see this one going beyond 15 more turns
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
RBC15c Russia, Nov. 1810AD
Looks good
.About the only change I make is waking a Slave and moving him towards the Spices for a Colony. And better protect any Troop Transports, even the Danes could have Privateers.
Eliminating Austria will give only the Unit Kill Vps, but I doubt they have any units left outside Sibiu anyway. Will try to get there.
Selling our spare resources wouldnt bring more than about 200gp, so I keep them, to use for MAs.
IBT:
Spain signs a peace treaty with KoN/Britain.
Lots of Ottomans impale against Guards (we loose 2 as well).
France kills a couple of Ottoman units in our territory. Most French units retreat, but new ones show up .
Turn 1: Jan., 1810AD
Belgrad: Kill 6 Vet Janissaries, and still more healthy unfortified defenders show up; decide to wait for more GBs. Kill Ottoman units around Belgrade, get a MGL (will end as Guard Army).
Rush an Army in Kryvyy Ryih.
IBT:
Ottomans move 8 units out of Belgrade
Britain and Austria sign embargo against us.
France continues to move healthy units out, and new ones in.
No losses for us.
Turn 2: Mar., 1810AD
Belgrade is only defended by a 3/5 Janissary, and 2 Conscripts now another prove how stupid the AI is
Take it with a single 10HP Army, for a loss of 5HP total. 35.8% land, 43360VPs.
Approach Bucharest. Fill the Army with 3 * and a regular Elite Cossacks.
IBT:
French keep killing units for us. Loose an Elite Cossack who refuses to retreat. As in any other turn, lots of Cossacks finish.
Turn 3: May, 1810AD
Capture Bucharest.
Clean up Ottoman units around Sibiu, and Wittgenstein appears to form another Cossack Army.
Form Dyes Colony.
36.5% land, 38% pop, 45275 VPs.
IBT:
Austria moves a Grenzer in our lands, the first Austrian unit I see in my turnset.
Couple of WltKDs.
Turn 4: Jul., 1810AD
Capture Orsovo. 37% land.
Rush another Army. Take out the road from Mostar to our Dyes Colony.
IBT: Lots of French show up. No combats anywhere.
Turn 5: Sept., 1810AD
Capture Sibiu, and destroy Austria. Remobilize again immediately.
Redline some Ottomans, and keep approaching towards Istanbul.
Disperse the usual Barb Camp near Sevastopol.
VPs: 48315
Land: 37.8%
Population: 39%
Next turn well have 5 healthy Cossacks and a Guard Army in position, we have another Cossack and a Guard Army marching towards Ottomans.
Fastest way to reach Domination should be to move towards Istanbul, since that will also give us the entire Black Sea tiles.
The last save
Over to Grahamiam, to finish this (no need to pass it again, if you'd need 6 or 7 turns!).
Looks good
.About the only change I make is waking a Slave and moving him towards the Spices for a Colony. And better protect any Troop Transports, even the Danes could have Privateers.Eliminating Austria will give only the Unit Kill Vps, but I doubt they have any units left outside Sibiu anyway. Will try to get there.
Selling our spare resources wouldnt bring more than about 200gp, so I keep them, to use for MAs.
IBT:
Spain signs a peace treaty with KoN/Britain.
Lots of Ottomans impale against Guards (we loose 2 as well).
France kills a couple of Ottoman units in our territory. Most French units retreat, but new ones show up
.Turn 1: Jan., 1810AD
Belgrad: Kill 6 Vet Janissaries, and still more healthy unfortified defenders show up; decide to wait for more GBs. Kill Ottoman units around Belgrade, get a MGL (will end as Guard Army).
Rush an Army in Kryvyy Ryih.
IBT:
Ottomans move 8 units out of Belgrade
Britain and Austria sign embargo against us.
France continues to move healthy units out, and new ones in.
No losses for us.
Turn 2: Mar., 1810AD
Belgrade is only defended by a 3/5 Janissary, and 2 Conscripts now another prove how stupid the AI is
Take it with a single 10HP Army, for a loss of 5HP total. 35.8% land, 43360VPs.
Approach Bucharest. Fill the Army with 3 * and a regular Elite Cossacks.
IBT:
French keep killing units for us. Loose an Elite Cossack who refuses to retreat. As in any other turn, lots of Cossacks finish.
Turn 3: May, 1810AD
Capture Bucharest.
Clean up Ottoman units around Sibiu, and Wittgenstein appears to form another Cossack Army.
Form Dyes Colony.
36.5% land, 38% pop, 45275 VPs.
IBT:
Austria moves a Grenzer in our lands, the first Austrian unit I see in my turnset.
Couple of WltKDs.
Turn 4: Jul., 1810AD
Capture Orsovo. 37% land.
Rush another Army. Take out the road from Mostar to our Dyes Colony.
IBT: Lots of French show up. No combats anywhere.
Turn 5: Sept., 1810AD
Capture Sibiu, and destroy Austria. Remobilize again immediately.
Redline some Ottomans, and keep approaching towards Istanbul.
Disperse the usual Barb Camp near Sevastopol.
VPs: 48315
Land: 37.8%
Population: 39%
Next turn well have 5 healthy Cossacks and a Guard Army in position, we have another Cossack and a Guard Army marching towards Ottomans.
Fastest way to reach Domination should be to move towards Istanbul, since that will also give us the entire Black Sea tiles.
The last save
Over to Grahamiam, to finish this (no need to pass it again, if you'd need 6 or 7 turns!).
microbe
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Sea tiles don't count for domination. Only coastal tiles do. We need about 3 cities to win. Be careful about VP - we are only ~12000 to win. Try not to kill units unnecessarily. So I don't think we should go for Istanbul - there will be a lot of defenders. Go for the eastern cities instead. They are closer and smaller.
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
True, but Istanbul itself has a huge territory; getting Varna + Istanbul + anything else will do it, while we'd need at least 4 cities otherwise, and marching through those mountains will need even longer.
And, we cannot reach Mostar, due to gazillions of Frenchman blocking the roads there.
And, we cannot reach Mostar, due to gazillions of Frenchman blocking the roads there.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
looking good doc i'll grab the suggested 3 and see how that leaves us.
i'll grab the suggested 3 and see how that leaves us.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Preflight check: Move 22hp guard army next to Varna so I can get 2 shots at the city next turn. Cossack army can protect the GBs. Find a few Cossacks near our Black Sea towns (Odessa, Chis, and Sulina) so I move them down to join the fun. Blow most of our money short-rushing Cossacks via Jaegers.
T1: Nov 1811AD Take Varna. Move 4 Cossack armys and a bunch of Cossacks into position to take Sofia next turn. VP=49935
IBT: Ottomans and France sign peace Denmark and Ottomans sign peace
T2: Jan 1812AD Take Sofia. Move into position to take Mostar and Skopje next turn.
IBT: Ottomans are more concerned with the massive amount of Spanish cav rather than our units
T3: Mar 1812AD Nearly break 2 armys but take Mostar without losing a unit. Move unused cavs from this assault to assist with Skopje or Thessalonika next turn. VP=52480, showing 40/41
T1: Nov 1811AD Take Varna. Move 4 Cossack armys and a bunch of Cossacks into position to take Sofia next turn. VP=49935
IBT: Ottomans and France sign peace
Denmark and Ottomans sign peaceT2: Jan 1812AD Take Sofia. Move into position to take Mostar and Skopje next turn.
IBT: Ottomans are more concerned with the massive amount of Spanish cav rather than our units
T3: Mar 1812AD Nearly break 2 armys but take Mostar without losing a unit. Move unused cavs from this assault to assist with Skopje or Thessalonika next turn. VP=52480, showing 40/41
