I hereby announce that a tentative coalition agreement has been agreed between My coalition and arya's coalition.
Arya will be President and I will be Vice-President.
The non-imminent agreements to the coalition will be agreed during the term, but the principle of support has been agreed and so we are prepared to join government under Arya.
Oh jesus. I was counting on that extension, thinking i might have a few more hours. Things had to get done so my dad would stop nagging me, then i stopped on the WoT site to play a quick battle.
I thank TW for his leap of faith in joining the patriots (Or is it the Sane Patriots party now?). I c an agree to most of you conditions, and hopefully it can be sorted out soon.
Its sorted in terms of an electoral pact to unite in government. The final conditions are just on advisement on The Plan and they can be sorted during discussions.
We are a coalition for this election and thus Arya is now president-elect
Election Summery:
The Last update is on Post #8811 & Election ends Monday evening (NOW!)
SpoilerOur Empire :
The Co-Op & Veternari Party have disappeared. The Green-Sanity Coalition and The Patriots have come to a undisclosed Compromise! The Following Administration layout is unconfirmed and there may be others to fill as Arya and Twinkle talk it over. But it looks as though the tentivly named Sane-Patriots are in power?
Election Concepts:
Here are some concepts that the Presidential Candidates should state their aims and thoughts upon.
Spoiler:
Government Spending Science vs Money - With our clear tech advantage we could try to gain a even larger lead or cut back a bit to upgrade all out units
Economy Capitalism vs Communism - The Final technologies are nearly there so the next leader must make a choice. Do we support communism with its free state and large land. Or Capitalism with its corporations and money.
Military War vs Peace - Although we hurt Russia we have not hurt the Arabs they will not talk to us about peace until we bloody their nose. But do we do just that? Or try to drive them all the way back to the middle east before we talk peace?
Ireland Indepence vs Vassal vs Ally vs Rebels - Do we let Ireland stand alone with the risk that it falls once again to a foreign power? Do we demand they bow to us in servitude yet also protection? Or do we try to bind them to us as equals, through a Defensive Pact or Alliance? Do we bring them into our war? Or do we tell them enough is enough, that they are English not Irish and tell them they are a separate peoples no more?
Foreign Intervention vs Isolation - We saw during Aysees term the flaws of concentrating on one target. While we stared down the Norse Vikings the Arabs declared war on the Russians and Indians to claim their holy cities. They claimed the Buddhist holy city and Capitluated Russia, but India managed to force the Arabs into a Cease Fire. (Most likely through the Aposalistic Palace) The Egyptians bowed to Shaka. The Americans became Christian and the Eastern Korea and Japan went to war. Thus what shall we do this time?
Technology
We are at a point where every tech helps. So which will you go for? Democracy gives us civics and a wonder,
Communism gives us civics and a free Great Spy,
Corporations gives us its namesake and a +100% Gold national wonder,
Physics gives us Spy Airships and a Great Scientists,
Railroad gives us the possibility of Mining Inc. Railroads with x10 movement and the perfect defence in Machine Gunners,
Great People Scientist & Engineer & Merchant
We soon have Corporations, Representation and a few wonders coming up. Will you found corporations pursuing capitalistic aims? Settle them with Representation? Quickly Grab a wonder?
Expansion Manifest Destiny vs War with Primitive Natives vs Peaceful Colonization - We can expand continuously to the east till the Great British Empire stretches from shore to shore. Or we can strike a boundary in Asia then turn our eyes elsewhere, either to the primitive natives overseas or too unclaimed land elsewhere to create colonies around the world.
Politician Votes:
Ravus = Jokers & IngSoc
Aysee = Jokers & IngSoc
Mechaerik = Jokers & IngSoc
Twinkletoes = Sanity & Green
Dukeblackstone = Sanity
Fellow = Sanity & Green
West India Man = Sanity & Green
Gruekiller = Jokers & IngSoc
NinjaCow = Imperial & War
DemTaqat = Imperial & War
Whosit = Imperial & War
Ono-Neko = Imperial & War
Arya = IngSoc & Jokers
Celtic Fury = Imperial & War
Sonereal = Imperial & War
NukeKnockout = Imperial & War
Parties:
Jokers = 5
IngSoc = 5
Sanity = 4
Green = 3
Imperial = 7
War = 7
Coalitions: The Sane Patriots (Jokers / IngSoc / Party to Restore Sanity / Green Party) = 17
Current Administration:
President = Arya
Vice President = TwinkleToes
Foreign Minister = Aysee
Minister of War = Ravus
Minister of Peace = WIM
Current Views = Undisclosed. A Combination of the Patriot and Green-Sanity Viewpoints
Military = Take Arabian Holdings in Russia then Completely Destroy Russia
Ireland = Held in Stasis untill the war is over. Offer to Bring Khan and Ireland into a United Kingdom with each state given a level of Autonomy as long as they are still under our control.
Foriegn = Befriend Carthage & India, Spread Christianity to them. Eye up everyone else for weaknesses and deal with in order, Arab-Russia, Norse-Greek, Americas & Shaka
Great People = Engineer for Statue of Liberty, Merchent for money trip, Scientist for Academy
Expansion = Through Warfare. Control all of Europe, Ignore Asia, Gain Colonies overseas.
Green-Sanity Views = See Full Post #8839
Spending = Technology
Technology = Railroad, Physics & Communism
Economy = Communism
Military = Moscow then Peace ASAP
Ireland = Returned to Khan, but bound to us in some way.
Foreign = Secure the Empire, then turn eyes to The America for future expansion.
Great People = Engineer for Statue of Liberty, Merchent for money trip, Scientist for Settling
Expansion = Secure Europe, Sail to America
Holy Britannian Alliance (Imperial / War Party) = 14
Current Candidate = Whosit
Current Views = See Post #8855
Spending = Technology & Minor Money for Upgrades
Technology = Railroad, Physics, Communism & Aim for Industrialism for more Military Techs
Economy = Communism
Military = Push back the Arabs, Secure the Empire then continue pushing as long as we hold Military Supremacy.
Ireland = Independence for Khan, Not Vassal-hood.
Foreign = Focus on our Arab Enemy. Play nice and keep an eye on Ragnar and other Rival Powers (E.g. Shaka). Befriend Americas.
Great People = No Corporations, Settle or build the Scientist, Send Merchant overseas, Use Engineer for Statue of Liberty or Pentagon
Expansion = Expand via our conquered enemies land first. Only then when the threat is removed turn expansive eyes elsewhere.
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PS - Can we get that first page updated?
PPS - I figured WIM would want a title like Minister of Peace and i've done the War position before but i do know that Aysee wanted the Foreign Minister position... Anything else that should be added or edited in?
You know me i can do anything. War might be good so i can be inbetween the Sane and Patriot viewpoint but honestly i don't mind. Put me in whatever is not taken.
The Imperialists arent overbearing and I am NOT anyones lapdog. I have disagreed with the Imperialists before. If I agreed with them 100% of the time I would be a lapdog, and if I agreed with them 100% of the time I would join their party. And what makes the Imperials overbearing? Just because were warmongers doesnt mean were overbearing.
Also, I read the Patriots opinion on Ireland. You know, to the Khan after the war could mean all of eternity. We should liberate Ireland NOW! They will hate us if we dont, and we dont want an enemy right on our doorstep. That could prove very painful. The Holy Britanian Alliance wants the the Khan to have Ireland, no vassal-hood, no strings attached. The patriots will lead us to rebellion, dont let them.
Congratulations!
I suppose that not being in 3 governments simultaniously is probably a good thing. Still, I would like to request that you at least take Moscow and rostov befoer you end this convieniently placed war and move on to other things.
Yes, failing to capture the Buddhist and Hindu holy cities would be a grave misuse of this opportunity. The gold from those shrines can be used to subsidize science, the army, expansion, or whatever the administration wants.
Also:
SpoilerPBEM :
I have created a thread for the PBEM game. If you are interested, please make a "roll call" post. I made a list of interested players, but I may have forgotten someone since I didn't write down the names of everyone who expressed interest. (I may have also added names of people who aren't interested, but that's probably less problematic.) http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=9935950#post9935950
Excellent. For the third time, the Patriot coalition has won; albeit slimly. Congratulations to President Arya, and thanks to twinkletoes for pushing us to victory.
So if the cabinent, or any members of the coalition, could send me anything they WANT or NEED in the plan, that would be great.
Ninja- Yes, you are in the now almost formal position of lapdog to the imperials. Lets face the facts: You are a one man party, you were given a coalition just to get more votes, and i doubt whosit was planning on giving you any REAL power if you guys won. This is the short version.
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