Returning Civs - Elimination Game

[Uberfrog]

Babylonians 9 = (12 - 3)
Ethiopians 11
Incas 24
Khmer 16
Koreans 10
Malians 22
Mayans 23 = (22 + 1)
Mongols 16

The Middle East may have "only" three civs, but sub-Saharan Africa and the pre-colonial Americas only have one apiece, not to mention southeast Asia has none at all! So while I'd be happy for them to return someday, the recent release of Persia and the pre-existence of Sumeria definitely relegates the Babylonians to a later priority.

Tha Mayans, on the other hand, are an interesting and important culture from a truly underrepresented region that should be at least as high as the Incas.

 

[Zaarin]

Babylonians 10 (9 + 1) -- The Ancient Near East most certainly is not overrepresented. Besides, excluding Babylon is like excluding Rome.
Ethiopians 11
Incas 24
Khmer 16
Koreans 10
Malians 19 (22 - 3) -- To use the logic some people are using, the Malians are European and Africa is overrepresented. I jest, but I still think Mali is a lower priority than some other civs.
Mayans 23
Mongols 16

EDITED to account for Uberfrog's vote. Also Uberfrog is not entirely correct: Native North and South America are completely unrepresented; Mesoamerica is a distinct culture zone. Lumping all of pre-Columbian America into one zone doesn't really make much sense, IMO.

 

[Uberfrog]

EDITED to account for Uberfrog's vote. Also Uberfrog is not entirely correct: Native North and South America are completely unrepresented; Mesoamerica is a distinct culture zone. Lumping all of pre-Columbian America into one zone doesn't really make much sense, IMO.

Quite right, which is why it's quite right that the Inca are leading, and a shame that the Iroquois were booted out so soon. Hence why Babylon is not my priority right now.

 

[Zaarin]

Quite right, which is why it's quite right that the Inca are leading, and a shame that the Iroquois were booted out so soon. Hence why Babylon is not my priority right now.

I have to admit the Iroquois being gone is largely my fault. I want a Native North American civ very badly, but I'd prefer someone new rather than the Iroquois simply because there are hundreds of tribes and we'll be lucky to get two of them.

 

[Liufeng]

Babylonians 10
Ethiopians 11
Incas 24
Khmer 16
Koreans 10 - 3 = 7 I really want Korea, but not before the mongols and the Khmer.
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 16 + 1 = 17 Ok, so the mongols are getting dangerously low, so I'll upvote them, because they're infleunce is so enormous that we simply can't let it be downvoted.

 

[Guandao]

Babylonians (10-3)=7 I can wait for a Babylon civ, because we have Sumer...I also struggle to think of uniques for them, Civ5 version had the Bowman and Wall of Babylon, pretty generic names
Ethiopians (11+1)=12 The Horn of Africa could use a Civ, Menelik II or Zara Yaqob, please
Incas 24
Khmer 16
Koreans 7
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 17

 

[Xefjord]

Babylonians 7 - 3 = 4 I think the Middle East is already a little crowded as is.
Ethiopians 12
Incas 24
Khmer 16
Koreans 7 + 1 = 8 Profile picture should say it all. Love the Sinosphere nations and they are hugely underrepresented compared to Europe despite having a rich culture and history comparable to Europe.
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 17

 

[Morningcalm]

Babylonians 4
Ethiopians 12
Incas 24 - 3 = 21 (Not the most exciting civ on this list)
Khmer 16
Koreans 8 + 1 = 9 (Coolest weapons of any civ on this list, which makes for cool unique units.)
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 17

 

[Manifold]

Babylonians 4
Ethiopians 9 (12-3) Mail, Zulu first
Incas 21
Khmer 16
Koreans 9
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 18 (17+1) strange

 

[Amrunril]

Babylonians 4
Ethiopians 9
Incas 22 (21 +1) I think this civ has gotten more down votes because it's winning and can afford to lose votes than it has because of substantive arguments. It's no longer (quite) winning, but it's still a distinctive, well known, dominant civilization from a massively underrepresented cultural group and geographic region.
Khmer 16
Koreans 6 (9 - 3) I'd rather add some new East Asian civs before bringing Korea back again, especially since most people seem to want/expect it to have the same mechanical focus as in Civ V.
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 18

 

[Lord of War N02]

Babylonians 4 - 3 = 1 since there is already Sumeria for ancient Mesopotamian civ
Ethiopians 9
Incas 22
Khmer 16 + 1 = 17 I hope any SE Asian civ will make it to the game
Koreans 6
Malians 19
Mayans 23
Mongols 18

 

[Returning Lurker]

Babylonians 1
Ethiopians 9
Incas 22+1=23
Khmer 17
Koreans 6
Malians 19
Mayans 23-3=20
Mongols 18

If I had to choose between the Mayans and the Incans I would definitely go with the latter. Not only have they survived to a greater extent (with Quechua being the largest pre-colonial American language with 9,000,000 native speakers still around) and had more of a lasting impression on the region both culturally and physically but they were also far more of a unified empire. While the Mayans would occasionally have a leader that would band a few of the city states together through conquest or, more rarely, trade the vast majority of the time they were a fragmented collection of city states and these alliances never lasted much longer than the leader who created them. Meanwhile the Inca managed to have a massive and continuous empire for a century and while Spain stumbled upon them in the midst of a civil war and capitalized on it had Pizarro not arrived when he did one of the two brothers would have most likely reunified the empire. The Maya, meanwhile, weren't strongly unified at any point and didn't show much signs of changing that when all the city states started their rapid depopulation. I should point out that while many of the civilizations already in the game were disjointed city states as well, at least for very long stretches of time (Greece, Japan, Germany, Viki... I mean Norway, etc), and that long term unification isn't a strict requirement I do personally prefer the ones that were unified for longer stretches. And since this is about my opinion... yeah.

 

[Orange1861]

Babylonians 1
Ethiopians 6 (9 - 3) I would rather have Axum or another nation in this part of Africa.
Incas 24 (23 + 1) Not having the Inca in South America is like not having the Japanese in Asia
Khmer 17
Koreans 6
Malians 19
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[Siptah]

Babylonians 2 (1+1) Not that it would save them.
Ethiopians 6
Incas 24
Khmer 17
Koreans 3 (6-3) sure, I can understand everybody wants Korea, but if I see this list, they are the ones I care the least about
Malians 19
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[civviefan]

Babylonians 2
Ethiopians 6+1=7 I hope they stick around a bit longer. This glorious civ is a joy to play with.
Incas 24
Khmer 17
Koreans 3 -3 = ELIMINATED. All civs are priorities for me at this stage, so I just followed the tide. I can't downvote the Babylonians.
Malians 19
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[The Kingmaker]

Babylonians 2+1=3 Since someone above was unsure of possible uniques for them, I'll recommend the Asharittu (Bowman) for the UU and either the Babu (Gate) or Kudurru (Boundary Stone) for UB or UI respectively. The former would be ornate Ishtar Gate-style city walls that slightly increase city defense and add a culture bonus. The latter would be a forward settler's dream, allowing land grabs on the player's frontier.
Ethiopians 7
Incas 24
Khmer 17
Malians 19-3=16 Now that we've gotten official confirmation that the next DLC are from Africa and SE Asia, I'm not so worried about prioritizing them.
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[Xandinho]

Babylonians 3 - 3 = 0 Eliminated. Bye, I do not think they are so high priority right now.
Ethiopians 7
Incas 24 + 1 = 25 I want they will soon be included, if we are going to have African civs and Southeast Asia soon, I hope the Incas or Mayans are next in line. There is a lack of Native American civs in the game.
Khmer 17
Malians 16
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ethiopians 7-3=4 - Least interresting of remianing.
Incas 25
Khmer 17
Malians 16+1=17 - By the times of Mansa Musa, Mali was the number one producer of gold. I would like to see it again.
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[ViterboKnight]

Ethiopians 4 - 3 = 1, quite pointless
Incas 25 + 1 = 26, Best mesoamericans IMO
Khmer 17
Malians 17
Mayans 20
Mongols 18

 

[Zaarin]

Ach, Babylon and Korea gone and Ethiopia not far from it. @ViterboKnight The Inca are South American, not Mesoamerican...

Ethiopians 1 (I'd really like to save Ethiopia, but I guess it's a lost cause )
Incas 26
Khmer 17
Malians 14 (17 - 3) -- Mansa Musa can keep his gold to himself for a while.
Mayans 21 (20 + 1) -- The Mayans had one of the most fascinating and advanced cultures in the New World. In a game with the Holy Roman Empire and Ancient Greece, the fact that they never unified need not be an issue.
Mongols 18