Returning Civs - Elimination Game

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Assyrians 17
Babylonians 25+1=26 They were one of the originals in Civ1. Bring them back!
Byzantines 18
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 21
Hittites 25
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 14
Khmer 21
Koreans 21
Malians 21
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Polynesians 4
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 11
Songhai 15
Swedish 7-3=4 We have enough European civs at the moment for this to be a lower priority addition.
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 18
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 21
Hittites 25
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 14
Khmer 21
Koreans 22 (21 + 1) -- For the exact reasons Returning Lurker listed in his downvote...
Malians 21
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Polynesians 1 (4 - 1) -- Hawai'i or Māori, sure, but a blob civ covering 300,000+ km² is stretching credulity.
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 11
Songhai 15
Swedish 4
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 18
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 21
Hittites 25
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 14
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 21
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Polynesians 1 - 3 = -2 - ELIMINATED!
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 11
Songhai 15
Swedish 4 + 1 = 5
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15 (18 - 3) With Rome and 3 different Greek or almost Greek civs already in the game, this feels somewhat redundant.
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 21
Hittites 25
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 14
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22 (21 + 1) Would provide much needed African representation, make a great gold/trade focused civ and still feel somewhat novel, thanks to skipping Civ V.
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 11
Songhai 15
Swedish 5
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 22 (21 + 1) If you consider it to be a successor to Aksum it is one of the oldest countries in the world, and aside from brief occupations by the British and Italians, it is the only country in Africa to both remain independant and not to be colonised throughout its history.
Hittites 22 (25 - 3) We already have Sumer, Egypt and Persia for the ancient middle east. And if we were to have more returning empires from the ancient middle east, then the Assyrians and Babylonians were both more successful. You could argue that it would be nice for variety as they haven't been in a Civ game since Civ III, but what would they really bring to the table that would be that different? Also, in terms of regional representation, Ottomans/Turkey is probably inevitable, so Anatolia is already covered
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 14
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 11
Songhai 15
Swedish 5
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 14 + 1 = 15 (Upvoted for their political legacy, their environmental esteem, their military prowess, and their cultural uniqueness. We have few enough Native American civs in Civ VI as is--there are even more African civs currently ingame than Native Americans, so my allegiance for this round of voting goes to the People of the Longhouse).
Khmer 21
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 11
Songhai 15
Swedish 5 - 3 = 2 (Too many Europeans spoil the broth).
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 15
Khmer (21+1)=22 Out of the SE Asian Civs that have been in the Civ franchise, the Khmer are the ones I want to return the most. On TSL, SE Asia is colonized by India, China or Australia...
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11
Ottoman Turks 23
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux (11-3)=8 My apologies to Great Plains Indians fans, I see them as low priority for Civ, they only really became important after the introduction of the horse
Songhai 15
Swedish 2
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 22+1=23 Same as before
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22
Incas 27
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 15
Khmer 22
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 11-3=8 Same as before
Ottoman Turks 23
Portuguese 17
Siamese 20
Sioux 8
Songhai 15
Swedish 2
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 23
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22
Incas 28 - Necessary

Indonesians 14
Iroquois 15
Khmer 22
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8
Ottoman Turks 23
Portuguese 14 - I'd prefer other European civs to Portugal and non-European civs to European.

Siamese 20
Sioux 8
Songhai 15
Swedish 2

Edit: Ninjas everywhere :ninja:

Edit2: No ninjas, just me missing a page.
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 23
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 15
Khmer 22
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8
Ottoman Turks 23 + 1 = 24
Portuguese 14
Siamese 20
Sioux 8
Songhai 15
Swedish 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED

I never understood why Ottomans are not in Civ VI base game. They are an excellent and influential civ. Stockholm can stay city-state for a little longer.
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 20 (23-3) nothing against the Dutch, but other places in the world need to come first
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16 (15+1) excellent choice for eastern north American native civ
Khmer 22
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8
Ottoman Turks 24
Portuguese 14
Siamese 20
Sioux 8
Songhai 15

Edit: ninja'd, had to revote
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 15 + 1 = 16 (too influential and different from classical Greece to be dismissed so soon)
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 20
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 22 -3 = 19 (least interesting on this list, also there's a reason they have not been brought back)
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 22
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8
Ottoman Turks 24
Portuguese 14
Siamese 20
Sioux 8
Songhai 15
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 20
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 22-3=19
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8
Ottoman Turks 24+1=25
Portuguese 14
Siamese 20
Sioux 8
Songhai 15

Second verse same as the first. I want some bigger, badder Asian civs first while selection is limited and we've got a lot of dark horses hogging up seats as is, then as the table gets wider and the main guests get their chairs add in the scrappier ones. I'm not against Korea's inclusion at all I just wouldn't want them right away.

Speaking of main guests the Ottomans are still waiting to get in on the action and I greatly anticipate their return. Ceddin Deden, son!
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 20
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 14 + 1 = 15 Had one of the first colonial empires, started the great discoveries, were the richest empire in the world during the XVIth century, and, something that many people tend to forget, most of what we know on pre-colonial african kingdoms (Mutapa, Swahili, Kongo, ...) and on SE asian history (like Burma, SIam, ...) on early modern history comes from them. Portuguese formed the first global empire, and should not be treated lower, than say, the Iroquois or the Songhai.
Siamese 20
Sioux 8 - 3 = 5 Among native american tribes, these are only known to have fought the US. They represent more the stereotype of native americans rather than native americans themselves ...
Songhai 15
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 20
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 22
Mayans 20
Mongols 24
Moroccans 8 + 1 = 9 I liked its inclusion in civ5. They were well worked in a civ centered in commerce, being able to build Kasbah in deserts. I really want them to come back.
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 15
Siamese 20
Sioux 5
Songhai 15 - 3 = 12 Nothing against them, but I want Mali this time and I do not think there's a possibility we have both in the game.
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 20-3=17 I want to see them back eventually, we just have many higher priorities besides yet more Europe right now.
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 22
Mayans 20+1=21 They're major enough that I'd like to see them included in vanilla someday.
Mongols 24
Moroccans 9
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 15
Siamese 20
Sioux 5
Songhai 12
 
OK, all the civs I wanted out are out. Now, this is just a matter of preference, so let's see...

Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 17
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 22 - 3 = 19
Mayans 21
Mongols 24
Moroccans 9
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 15
Siamese 20
Sioux 5
Songhai 12 + 1 = 13
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 17
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 16
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 19
Mayans 21
Mongols 24
Moroccans 9
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 15
Siamese 21 (20 + 1) -- I could go for some curry...
Sioux 2 (5 - 3) -- The game is in dire need of a Native American civilization, but not the Sioux.
Songhai 13
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 17
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 17 (16 + 1) Unique government system, near-unique culture system, and held the political 'balance of power' between the European newcomers for over 100 years. What's not to like?
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 19
Mayans 21
Mongols 24
Moroccans 9
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 15
Siamese 21
Sioux 0 (2 - 3) And Gone. I hate to eliminate any Native North Americans, but the Commanche are a better choice for a 'Horse' tribe and the Chippewa who shoved the Lakotah onto the plains in the first place are a better choice for a 'middle America' tribe. Not to mention that before we need another badly-modeled 'nomad' group in Civ, we need AT LEAST one Pacific Northwest Tribe included.
 
Assyrians 17
Babylonians 26
Byzantines 16
Carthaginians 14
Dutch 17+1=18 If you are going to down-vote saying there are higher priorities, show how they are the least priority in this list. They aren't. I've already given plenty of reasons on why this is a top tier civ. It doesn't matter that it's European, what matters is what it accomplished.
Ethiopians 22
Hittites 19
Incas 28
Indonesians 14
Iroquois 17
Khmer 22
Koreans 19
Malians 19
Mayans 21
Mongols 24
Moroccans 9-3=6 Same as before
Ottoman Turks 25
Portuguese 15
Siamese 21
 
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