"Rogue Units"??

[Deggial]

I don't know if you mean to, but you come across a little sarcastic to me, which can be considered quite rude as people are giving their time and attention to help you. ...

... and BTW, do actual Civ experts ever show up in these forums?

Hmmm ...

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

I don't know if you mean to, but you come across a little sarcastic to me, which can be considered quite rude as people are giving their time and attention to help you.

Again, not sure if you meant it that way, but just wanted to let you know how your typing in this message came across to me.


Personally I would have loved to see screenshots of this because it sounds like a very odd case indeed. I haven't seen anything like it in nearly 2000 hours of playing (with loads of mods). You don't have autosaves you can delve into?

I do have autosaves but I've never used them and will have to look into it……

As far as "sarcasm" goes, have you read all that individual said to me before I said what you question? I feel I was fairly mild, considering………

 

[Victoria]

This is known isn’t it?
Seen a flurry of them last year after the patch. Rogue unit even though at peace. I’ll check bugs.
EDIT ah you have raised the bug, good. It seems no one else did last year, you are not alone but thankfully does not seem prevalent.

 

[Laurana Kanan]

As far as "sarcasm" goes, have you read all that individual said to me before I said what you question? I feel I was fairly mild, considering………

I'm sorry, but what did you feel I wrote that was offensive to you? I was trying to help you by directing you to the most appropriate section of the forum (where you would also get more looks), linking you to 2K Support, and suggesting that save games or screenshots should be uploaded to help diagnose the problem. In hindsight I suppose I should have just ignored your post and let in languish in Tech Support where it might have remained indefinitely and unanswered.

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

This is known isn’t it?
Seen a flurry of them last year after the patch. Rogue unit even though at peace. I’ll check bugs.
EDIT ah you have raised the bug, good. It seems no one else did last year, you are not alone but thankfully does not seem prevalent.

Ah……… Your message is a relief—I'm not alone

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

I'm sorry, but what did you feel I wrote that was offensive to you? I was trying to help you by directing you to the most appropriate section of the forum (where you would also get more looks), linking you to 2K Support, and suggesting that save games or screenshots should be uploaded to help diagnose the problem. In hindsight I suppose I should have just ignored your post and let in languish in Tech Support where it might have remained indefinitely and unanswered.

it took you a number of posts to give me the Bug link—and, you treated my concern as "non-technical"; plus, I wasn't looking for more visibility, just a solution—and, my words that someone called sarcastic were not—they were Thankful………

 

[Victoria]

As there is no save it’s hard for them to debug and as no one reported it last year it’s a bit sad but I’ll see if I can dig up another of the posts where it happened (seemed to be with friends/alliances) and post in the bug thread.

The written word is often misread, let’s all be friends. Also for suspected bugs it is best to use general discussions forum Initially as others are not read by most.

 

[Vandlys]

it took you a number of posts to give me the Bug link—and, you treated my concern as "non-technical"; plus, I wasn't looking for more visibility, just a solution—and, my words that someone called sarcastic were not—they were Thankful………

To me it looked as if, by saying someone was actually being helpful, that others were not. In my opinion they were all very helpful, they just did not provide the solution you were looking for.
You might not have meant to be sarcastic, and others might not agree with me, I just wanted to state my opinion and make you aware of how, at least one person, read your message as possibly being sarcastic : )

But then, I'm also a little thrown off by your way of writing, which makes it harder for me to read all your initial messages and get a clear picture of what is going wrong.

If you feel you were being mild, I'm not sure how you get people to help you. People volunteer their time to read your message and to reply to it. I am thankful for that even if they don't provide me with a solution. Not saying there is a right or wrong, just showing you my perspective.

I'm glad Victoria remembers others having seen this issue too. I have never seen it myself luckily, or have just pushed it out of my memory : P

 

[nauberry]

I am sure it wasn't a tornado—I saw the Persian Cannon fire of the building: and, as far as what you call "the friends but at war bug", it may be fixed but Persia, a friend and ally in fact did what I've said………

When units pillage districts, they dont fire at them IIRC. They only shoot at city centers, encampments and units.

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

As there is no save it’s hard for them to debug and as no one reported it last year it’s a bit sad but I’ll see if I can dig up another of the posts where it happened (seemed to be with friends/alliances) and post in the bug thread.

The written word is often misread, let’s all be friends. Also for suspected bugs it is best to use general discussions forum Initially as others are not read by most.

Gotcha………

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

When units pillage districts, they dont fire at them IIRC. They only shoot at city centers, encampments and units.

"IIRC"………??

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

As there is no save it’s hard for them to debug and as no one reported it last year it’s a bit sad but I’ll see if I can dig up another of the posts where it happened (seemed to be with friends/alliances) and post in the bug thread.

The written word is often misread, let’s all be friends. Also for suspected bugs it is best to use general discussions forum Initially as others are not read by most.

BTW—I'm about 200 turns further on in the scenario and nothing like what I described has happened again………

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

To me it looked as if, by saying someone was actually being helpful, that others were not. In my opinion they were all very helpful, they just did not provide the solution you were looking for.
You might not have meant to be sarcastic, and others might not agree with me, I just wanted to state my opinion and make you aware of how, at least one person, read your message as possibly being sarcastic : )

But then, I'm also a little thrown off by your way of writing, which makes it harder for me to read all your initial messages and get a clear picture of what is going wrong.

If you feel you were being mild, I'm not sure how you get people to help you. People volunteer their time to read your message and to reply to it. I am thankful for that even if they don't provide me with a solution. Not saying there is a right or wrong, just showing you my perspective.

I'm glad Victoria remembers others having seen this issue too. I have never seen it myself luckily, or have just pushed it out of my memory : P

Hmmm……… What you read as sarcastic was my thanking that person………

 

[Victoria]

I'm about 200 turns further on in the scenario and nothing like what I described has happened again………

So what happened to the rogue unit?
The issue I remember the unit effectively wrecked the game
...IIRC= If I Recall Correctly

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

So what happened to the rogue unit?
The issue I remember the unit effectively wrecked the game
...IIRC= If I Recall Correctly

No, the game wasn't wrecked—the unit fired on an Entertainment center then went to the northern part of my territory while Indonesia was fighting its other troops—hung out there till Indonesia went away then faded into it's own territory—haven't seen it since, 200 turns later………

But………

When it happened I mourned for a bit since it seemed the money I spent was wasted……

Now, if it happens again, I'll just trudge on—unless some Civ I'm allied with sends all its troops at me

 

[Victoria]

'm repairing the Entertainment complex but the arena seems to not be able to be fixed

You must fix the district before the buildings within it. Cart before the horse an all that.

When it happened I mourned for a bit since it seemed the money I spent was wasted……

Agreed but at least you could play on. I would treat it like a 'disaster'. Hurricanes and blizzards etc can wipe out a lot more that a district and a building and are so random. One game i made my first settler and a tornado killed it.

I have dug around with no luck but am pretty sure I have seen 2 threads where an ally unit started rampaging even though you were not at war with them. I believe it was due to an emergency but memory is entropic as is the will to continue searching. As it is no biggie for you I think I'll call it quits.

on a side note... Nice Odyssey, quite baring, thanks for sharing. "Education that isn’t" ... Hmm everything educates in my book of things but we all have our own book I guess.

 

[Vandlys]

"IIRC"………??

If I remember/recall/read correctly = IIRC.

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

You must fix the district before the buildings within it. Cart before the horse an all that.

Agreed but at least you could play on. I would treat it like a 'disaster'. Hurricanes and blizzards etc can wipe out a lot more that a district and a building and are so random. One game i made my first settler and a tornado killed it.

I have dug around with no luck but am pretty sure I have seen 2 threads where an ally unit started rampaging even though you were not at war with them. I believe it was due to an emergency but memory is entropic as is the will to continue searching. As it is no biggie for you I think I'll call it quits.

on a side note... Nice Odyssey, quite baring, thanks for sharing. "Education that isn’t" ... Hmm everything educates in my book of things but we all have our own book I guess.

Thanks for Caring………………………

 

[Alexander M Zoltai]

If I remember/recall/read correctly = IIRC.

THANKS

 

[AntSou]

Thanks for Caring………………………

It's the over-use of "......." that's confusing people. I don't know how much experience you have writing online, but seeing you didn't know what iirc meant, perhaps you're also not aware what the "..." is used for?

Writing "thanks for caring..." instead of "thanks for caring." implies there's no finality to the thought/comment, and that one should read more into it. The fact you're also italicizing the word contributes to this perception.

It might not be easy to see at first, but when you write "That's helpful......" this is likely how most people are reading it:

- That's "helpful" (sarcastic)
- That's helpful (sarcastic)

Hope that clarifies why some people are confused.