Scenario preview: Vietnam War

Is this going to be a good scenario?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 46.2%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 20 38.5%

  • No

    Votes: 8 15.4%
  • Total voters
    52
one question...nixon as the american leader in '65?

no. not until '69...Lyndon B. Johnson should be the leader. had the commies not launched the tet offensive in '68, LBJ may very well had served another term. though, this is open for debate b/c americans were going nuts over the "credibilty gap" of the govt.

or if we want to maintain accuracy, General William Westmoreland. he was in charge of all armed forces from '65 onwards

ak, i can send you the .biq if you want. also, i had a devil of a time opening those files from Briefcase. i'm under the assumption that all that is needed to run the scenario are the appropriate art files along w/ the Pedia Icons.txt and the Civlopedia.txt. no?

i wanted to add just one more unit outside of the Fire Base. NLF Infantry, which i have the graphics on my pc at home.
 
Could you send the BIQ to me too El?And the ideas you are coming with is great!!:goodjob:You and Ak do almost more than I did and doing.:)Just carry on, but is anything I can do??
 
luddi, check your email...i'm guessing that we still have to coordinate the techs/wonders/improvement and ultimately play-test everything before we start a new thread.

as you've seen, i have many ideas for an american/western type flavor techs/wonders/improvements. unfortunately, i'm not too steeped in asian flavor ideas. graphics for these would need to be either created or we'd have to find others that are close.

we should probably add the 2 units (fire base & nlf infantry) into the text and try and playtest to see where techs, etc should fall.
 
Do you no when this will be done Luddi VII? looks geat:goodjob: (or a rough ETA would be nice)

btw this is for C3C, right?
 
yep, for C3C, but I'm really not sure about an ETA. Believe me, this is a very complicated thing to configure correctly. Might take another 2-3 months.
 
@ El
when you're "temporarily done" with your modifications, both Luddi & me need only a .zip, with these files (in the correct folder structure):
.biq, civilopedia.txt, pediaIcons.txt + the graphics you added.
I'd suggest you put the .zip in that yahoo briefcase, so we can both acces it easily (did you explain it to Luddi yet ?).
BTW - I made a new Vietcong icon for my mod TML3, but of course we will use it for this too. Looks like this:
 

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AK:
alright...i'll put the .biq onto Briefcase later today

i don't have the text files for this though. nor the art graphics outside of the nlf infantry. so, i'll zip up the .biq and the nlf inf and post it on briefcase.

do you think the new us city placements are alright? i don't want to seem like i'm rearranging all the hard work you guys have done. it just makes sense to have the us 'outside' of s vietnam. plus, the americans would have to ferry all their troops onto the mainland; maintaining, albeit somewhat, a dash of historical accuracy. btw, i removed all of the airbases and substituted them with fire bases. too bad we can't give the fire base the 'air base' flag. but, i figure that us bombing runs could be made from their cities or from carriers.

oh...cool pcx (vc dude). you got skillz:goodjob:

i guess i'll start searching the graphics forum for tech/wonder/improvement art and set any of them that looks like it could fit to the side. do you have any ideas about this? i see where you've created a good amount of these type of graphics. are they time consuming/pain in the arse?

luddi: check your pm...i've forwarded you the instructions to access Yahoo Briefcase, which serves as a file access/storage site that all 3 of us can access.
 
Are you guys going to have helos and if so will the be air or land units?
 
another american/s vietnamese tech advance/wonder:

MACV (Military Assistance Command Vietnam)

this was the command center for joint American/S Vietnamese combat activities with ARVN (Army of the Republic of Viet Nam {south}) and US armed forces

not sure on stats or effects or graphics for that matter.

there is one more i'm forgetting. can't remember the exact name of the program but it was run by diem (s vietnam) where the s vietnamese govt re-allocated land and set up secure/fortified villages to combat the commie infiltration into the south. it wasn't a real big hit. but it did offer some defense to many of the isolated hamlets and villages in s vietnam. i'll have to look up the name of it though.

i know diem was ousted in '63, but the anti-infiltration campaigns of the south never really stopped
 
I will be off for tonight and tomorrow, but on Monday I will be back.When we know all the techs we need, we can make a tech-tree proposal.And we should make a list of all the things we have done and doing, the units, graphics etc.

What do you think about that??
 
And another thing.I the Korean War scenario Arc-Lite used farmyard graphics.In this war the us bombing destroyed most of the farmyards.So they are a little bit important in this scenario.So we could maybe add the farmyard graphics??

Any comments?
 
So we could maybe add the farmyard graphics??
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that sounds cool

i fiddled with the biq again and i'll post it on briefcase later along with the .txt entries for the nlf unit

- i raised the Victory Point Scoring from 25 to 40
- changed US leader from Nixon to Johnson
- changed 'Capitalist' flavor to 'SEATO' (Southeatern Asia Treaty Org.) b/c each of the three (US, S Viet & Thailand)were members of it. it was like the NATO of asia. there were others in it; the philippines, s korea and australia to name a few.



When we know all the techs we need, we can make a tech-tree proposal.
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i guess i'll start looking at the improvements/buildings. i like ak's additions (gogo bar, angkor wat and propaganda station)

using cfc's Improvements link, i'll mention ones that may not be needed or should be a different name.

- aqueduct: maybe like 'Well' or something.
- cathedral: i think we should have a 'Church' (Catholic) and a 'Temple' (Buddhist).
- walls: maybe like 'Perimeter Defenses' or something
- coal plant: maybe 'Munitions Plant'
- nuclear plant: not sure if s e asia had any
- off shore platform: maybe "Dredged Harbor" or something. i know the americans did a lot of this in s viet in an effort to modernize.

others that could be added: prison camp, cafe, radio station, tv station, newspaper, officer training academy

i have no idea :confused: for the non-obvious graphics for those though
 
I'm back!Good job El!I have just get home from a great holiday in the mountains so I'm take a better look on it later.Could I get a report from bought of you and I give one from myself.
 
hey i was thinking that you could start the game with the Austrailians involved as they did fight in the Vietnam war at the beginning as did the French, but when they pulled out was when the Americans went in, so perhaps you could have the Austrailians involved at the beginning, as we do already have Anzac riflemen for PTW.
 
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