SCOTUS rules that military has right to recruit on campus

[Dr. Yoshi]

Meh, I don't mind recruiters as long as I can ignore them easily. Most of them are actually nice people who understand my reasons for not joining. The only exception are the Marine recruiters but I suppose they are pretty desperate for cannon fodder.

 

[7ronin]

Would you rather put up with a few on campus recruiters or have a return to the draft?

 

[North King]

Which far-left website did you copy that from?

Ouch! Far-left! What a burn!



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On topic: Meh. I've never really cared about it much, anyway. You can always ignore them.

 

[Irish Caesar]

We have a huge military presence here. I don't know anyone who's been hurt by it.

 

[downtown]

My school, American, had its student senate pass a bill to ban the miltary from campus (we have a pretty large gay community)....guess that's going to get overturned...and I applaud it. If the military leaves, so do all the kids with ROTC scholarships. Why deprive kids from going to school?

 

[amadeus]

Matt, maybe you should look into having your university ban the NAACP for their racial discrimination or any group that provides grants or money exclusively to minorities.

The whole "get the military off the campus" thing was supposedly based on discrimination, right?

 

[eyrei]

I don't see any reason not to let the military recruit just about anywhere they want, as long as the propaganda isn't out of control. Recruitment from college campuses is going to be increasingly important as the style of combat changes drastically.

Regarding the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy, I think some weight has to be given to the argument that openly gay soldiers would be a distraction. Some day our society may have become tolerant enough for that not to be a problem, but reality has to be considered. It is easy for intellectuals to make a moral argument because they do not have to deal with the practical effects. They are probably right that the military should allow soldiers to be openly gay, but in this case there are more important issues.

 

[superisis]

Let them recruit. Hey, i've been on campus for 1 year, and i haven't seen a soul (but then again, I don't know if my uni gets federal grants).

I'd enjoy the opportunity of a recruiter trying to convince me to join. Hehehe

 

[Hundegesicht]

Heh. What's a polite way of telling a Military recruiter I'm not interested? Being young, relatively poor, tall, and a man, I attract recruiters like flies. They're all very nice and so on, but it always seems to take a couple minutes for them to understand that no, I don't want to stop what I'm doing and go to a resturaunt to talk to them about joining the military for 2 hours again. (I once tried to abuse this, actually, but my choices were limited to fast food) I always try to be nice, but I really wish I'd stop getting hassled by them.

 

[Stylesjl]

I never saw what problem people had with military recruiters on campus anyway, if your not interested then ignore them

 

[amadeus]

Heh. What's a polite way of telling a Military recruiter I'm not interested? Being young, relatively poor, tall, and a man, I attract recruiters like flies. They're all very nice and so on, but it always seems to take a couple minutes for them to understand that no, I don't want to stop what I'm doing and go to a resturaunt to talk to them about joining the military for 2 hours again. (I once tried to abuse this, actually, but my choices were limited to fast food) I always try to be nice, but I really wish I'd stop getting hassled by them.

If you don't mind lying, perhaps you could tell them that you are already a member of a reserve force?

 

[downtown]

Matt, maybe you should look into having your university ban the NAACP for their racial discrimination or any group that provides grants or money exclusively to minorities.

The whole "get the military off the campus" thing was supposedly based on discrimination, right?

I dont see a reason against independant groups giving scholarships to their interest groups. Its a methodist school...we give scholarships to methodists, catholics, jews...along with blacks, whatever.

Considering I am on the bankroll of a hispanic student scholarship (and if i didnt have it, i wouldnt be in school), i'd say it wouldnt be in my interest to protest them. I'll leave the protesting to the rest of the crazy hippies. Id rather watch espn.

 

[Fifty]

I wouldn't mind recruiters if they told the truth...

 

[GeorgeOP]

I just want to have a military free zone in our college campuses. I dont wish to see the military recruiters telling their lies to our college students.

Gee, who thought you were against the war and the military? And if we're going to kick out all the people who lie to the college students, we'd have to let go most of the professors.

If IBM gave money to the school, and then the school said they didn't like a policy of IBM's and banned them from the campus, IBM has the right to stop giving them money. The same should be true of the US government. We need to adress the issue of bad recruiters. Banning all of them does not solve this in an intelligent way.

I once tried to abuse this, actually, but my choices were limited to fast food

And in your file they put that you were a little more interested then the people like me who acted like they weren't even there. You probably got targeted a little more for that.

Yes some Republicans got upset recruiters were targeting them. The recruiters aren't allowed to target minorities or poor people, why should they target people based on political beliefs. A lot of republicans, like myself, care about a smaller government and lower taxes. I don't agree with the way the war is being handled, but I don't want a Demoncat in the Oval office, nor do I want our troops to pull out now.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

I certanly dont believe in what the vets have to say.

Why? Are we to guess it's because you consider all of us as pure liars?

You may want to think this through a little bit. Are there respected members of your church that are veterans? Are they liars that you "cetainly don't believe"?

 

[Rik Meleet]

Heh. What's a polite way of telling a Military recruiter I'm not interested? Being young, relatively poor, tall, and a man, I attract recruiters like flies. They're all very nice and so on, but it always seems to take a couple minutes for them to understand that no, I don't want to stop what I'm doing and go to a resturaunt to talk to them about joining the military for 2 hours again. (I once tried to abuse this, actually, but my choices were limited to fast food) I always try to be nice, but I really wish I'd stop getting hassled by them.

Tell them something really ridiculous that cannot be true. Like "I can't, as I have no eyes" (assuming you do have eyes). They'll probably look at you in a very strange way and might just leave. If not, you walk away.

 

[Azash]

Does active military recruitment in anyway force people to make a choice or coerce people against their will? I fail to see any issue at all. If the Catholic church had a become a priest drive in a religous campus would it be that much different? I suspect you'd hardly find more Catholic priest recruitment but then I don't know those guys are pretty persuasive

'Tis called 'peer pressure'.

 

[Irish Caesar]

I'm curious how "bad" military recruiting is at other schools. We have huge ROTC programs here, and they all wear their uniforms once (or twice) a week. In addition, there are frequently branches of the service who set up displays in the middle of campus...maybe a couple times a month, although there was a week last semester when the whole center of campus was filled with recruiters from all branches.

I've never seen any "high pressure" tactics, and I looked at a few displays without anyone asking me if I wanted to consider a career in the armed forces.

Actually, I've never been approached by the Navy, either, which is especially surprising: a large percentage of the nuclear engineers here join the Navy.

Id rather watch espn.

I just want to say that I laughed at this. A lot.

 

[Fifty]

The thing is that the recruiters blatently lie. My best friend's brother had to spend wayyyyy more time in Iraq and such than they told him he would.

 

[MobBoss]

The thing is that the recruiters blatently lie. My best friend's brother had to spend wayyyyy more time in Iraq and such than they told him he would.

Anyone who joins the military these days and does not think they will be deployed overseas is quite naive.

Bottom line, a recruiter has no idea of the if/when/where/how of when a recruit gets sent to a warzone. All he can do is give reference to the current policy which is National Guardsmen/Reservists get deployed 1 year in 5 and Active duty folks get deployed 1 year in 3. Thats according to the current optemp of the military and your milage may vary a bit (that means some may see more or less time depending on specifics.).