Seattle Public Schools on Racism

[Inqvisitor]

Yes, I sure skewed the poll results alright . Maybe you ought to consider not making a skewed poll, maybe then you can complain about skewed results.

I believe in freedom of speech, freedom of opinion. You made a horribly biased poll that only has one "correct" option. That's not really calling for a correct sample of opinion.

The extra wording besides the "yes" or "no" is derived quite obviously from the very definitions that are in question. According to that site, only Whites are racist, and holding a future orientation is racist. I did not invent biased options.

Yes. Only Whites can be racist. How dare they focus on improving the future?!

 

[garric]

The extra wording besides the "yes" or "no" is derived quite obviously from the very definitions that are in question. According to that site, only Whites are racist, and holding a future orientation is racist. I did not invent biased options.

Yes. Only Whites can be racist. How dare they focus on improving the future?!

You can post your opinion in the thread, you don't have to make the whole poll based on your opinion. Would you support a voting ballot that would look like this?:

[ ] George W Bush (Moron)
[ ] John Kerry (Vote for him)
[ ] Ralph Nader (Don't vote for him if you don't want Bush back in power)

 

[blackheart]

Inqvisitor, when you make poll threads, make the options neutral and not colored by your own opinion. I abstain from voting because of the poorly worded choices.

 

[eyrei]

Moderator Action: garric and Inqvisitor. You are both on the moderators' 'watch list', so I strongly suggest you stop targetting other posters and stay on topic. Consider yourselves warned.

As for the rest of you, if you don't like the poll, don't vote in it. Eyrei.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[capslock]

Wow that is insane. They should have saved some time and just wrote:

Definition of Racism:

Being white.

 

[Babbler]

I voted no, I do not agree with definitions, but I don't agree with "The "definitions" are nothing more than anti-White propaganda." It's just stupid.

 

[downtown]

While I think that most of this definition is crap, I think there is something to the idea of the relationship between power and racisim

Anybody, black, white, brown, yellow, whatever, can be Prejudiced...but to be racist, in my mind, involves the abilty to project power. Minority groups then, cannot be racist, since in most areas of the country, they dont have power. In areas of the country/world where this is not the case, blacks would certainly be rasict. Mugabe is certainly an anti-white racist, for example. Jesse Jackson however, while very prejudiced, I wouldnt classify as racist.

my two cents

 

[JohnRM]

http://www.seattleschools.org/area/equityandrace/definitionofrace.xml



Causing quite a stir numerous places online, Seattle Public Schools' new "racism" policy is an absolutely insane amalgam of anti-White absurdities....

Of course only Whites can be racist. And having a "future time orientation" (how dare people innovate for tomorrow?!), "emphasizing individualism" or daring to define "one form of English as standard" are all apparently evil White racist practices...

Disgusting...

Does it surprise me? No.

Does it upset me? Absolutely.

White Americans are the new Jews.

 

[Mise]

White Americans are the new Jews.

White Americans were systematically exterminated by the millions?

Also, I didn't vote in the poll... I would have voted if the options were ACTUALLY a simple "yes" or "no"...

 

[Che Guava]

Arg, couldn't they just say that racial discrimination is worse when its a minority that's targetted and leave it at that...?!

 

[Elrohir]

That definition is crap. There are, and have been racist blacks, whites, Indians, Asians, you name it, if there's an ethnic group then there are members of it that hate or fear another ethnic group just because of what they look like or where they are from. Racism is not a problem specific to whites, it's a problem that is prevalent in every society. Teaching that it's a problem just whites have is in itself racist propaganda.

 

[MobBoss]

This is "political correctness" run amok. Nothing new really.

 

[luiz]

How is "emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology" racist? Isn't racism a collective ideology?

This document is piece of crap and is severely racist.

 

[Mise]

How is "emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology" racist?

That was a particularly baffling statement...

Those aspects of society that overtly and covertly attribute value and normality to white people and Whiteness, and devalue, stereotype, and label people of color as “other”, different, less than, or render them invisible. Examples of these norms include defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored, having a future time orientation, emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology, defining one form of English as standard, and identifying only Whites as great writers or composers.

To me, as a minority, I'd rather be treated as a white person, or at least as a Briton, than be singled out and treated as a minority. When I was in school, I was treated as a white person, which made it a lot easier to integrate into British society (actually I had absolutely no difficulty whatsoever ). Had I been treated in this manner -- i.e. having my non-whiteness constantly be drawn attention to through these rediculously paternalistic, pretentious and condescending statements -- it would have been very difficult to "blend in".

And WTH does "future time orientation" mean anyway??

 

[Swiss Bezerker]

What moboss said. Not "anti white propoganda", more along the lines of "idiots not wanting to offend people"