Shooting at San Diego Synagogue

[El_Machinae]

Supply-side economics isn't quite trickle down Theory, but the two get swapped often enough that it's become a massive social problem.

Anyway, I was asking because I was looking for clues as to why you switched from being Progressive to being conservative

 

[Lexicus]

Changing the rules of employment so that people get laid off with a socially tough line on their resume is ... harmful. But you have a hard time saying it's violence.

Nah, it's definitely violence. It's on the standard list of escalating steps to genocide. It's either in itself, or a prelude to, an attempt to remove a group of people from civil society.

 

[Senethro]

Pretty much everything the state does has an implied "or else...." behind it. Which is why you need to keep control of it.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

If forcibly removing trans people from their jobs isn't violence then just swap trans for gay or black or jewish etc

 

[El_Machinae]

Nah, it's definitely violence. It's on the standard list of escalating steps to genocide. It's either in itself, or a prelude to, an attempt to remove a group of people from civil society.

Not saying it's not on the list of ways to crank up oppression. But remember, nearly 30% of people don't mind living in a world of 'firing without cause' or the State arbitrarily destroying people's resumés.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

If the gop had its way lgbt people straight up wouldn't exist, be it through forced therapy or other means

 

[yung.carl.jung]

Their point of view is that any country where the majority of people are currently white constitutes as a "white country". That said if they wanted to say that Europe is the only part of the world that includes "white countries that should be left white" I would still disagree with them. However, it wouldn't be as bad as it is now when they include so many countries that white people were not indigenous to, to begin with.

Again. If they want to say that all the white people should leave America, Australia, Canada, etc and "go back" to their home (while telling everyone else the same), I would still disagree with them, but they don't even realize how hypocritical they are actually being.

red pill

black pill

we should just all go back to ethiopia and crawl up in fetal position and die slowly and maybe a forest will grow there or smth

I mean, there is truth to "people of European descent are the only people indigenous to the lands of Europe" but:

that statement is rather circular. "people with european ancestry are the indigenous people of Europe".. yeah, great.

you might as well say that ancient Indo-Aryans or Cro-magnon are "indigenous" Europeans, it's equally nonsensical. the whole concept is stupid, really.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

because joe biden may have awkwardly hugged a few women democrats are on the same footing as a president who has said "grab them by the ***** " and "you know women, you have to treat them like *feces* " and who knows what other vile and disgusting things dump has said in private over the years? one can only imagine.

I wasn't referring to Biden. Violating social norms is not the same thing as being openly racist or sexist.

That cuts both ways. What someone said > decade ago barely matters. What happens matters, and there's enough to criticize the current presidency directly with what has been done (or not done) during the current term.

 

[El_Machinae]

If the gop had its way lgbt people straight up wouldn't exist, be it through forced therapy or other means

Not entirely true. It's a coalition, but one that is tolerant and accommodating to people who are fixated on binary gender roles.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

This administeration has been awful for LGBT rights so.... yeah, no thanks.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Things can be bad without being violence you know. Open discrimination is bad. It doesn't have to be defined as violence in order to be bad.

 

[Senethro]

Things can be bad without being violence you know. Open discrimination is bad. It doesn't have to be defined as violence in order to be bad.

In a society where you need money to survive, depriving someone of the ability to earn a living using the state is a form of violence.

 

[ashendashin]

In a society where you need money to survive, depriving someone of the ability to earn a living using the state is a form of violence.

nah. Punch em in the face while firing them and you have violence. Locking someone in a room in order to deprive them of all life's necessities is depraved cruelty that calls for violence on the actor, but it's not a constant act of violence in and of itself. The victim would be 'violently' ill in the process, but their condition is not causing violence. The actor caused death but not through outright violence, which is a thing you can do, you know.
I mean really this is just silly. At least try to use your vocabulary properly. Virtue signaling would work a lot better if you did since it'd vastly improve your social standing with those who don't care for your virtues. And if you don't care about those others, well, have fun encouraging real violence on people you believe are constantly acting it out, which is par for course in these parts.

 

[Lexicus]

Locking someone in a room in order to deprive them of all life's necessities is depraved cruelty that calls for violence on the actor, but it's not a constant act of violence in and of itself.

Well, it sure sounds like this distinction is an important one to draw.

At least try to use your vocabulary properly. Virtue signaling would work a lot better if you did since it'd vastly improve your social standing with those who don't care for your virtues. And if you don't care about those others, well, have fun encouraging real violence on people you believe are constantly acting it out, which is par for course in these parts.

I wonder to whom you are trying to signal virtue? Cretinous transphobes perhaps?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

In a society where you need money to survive, depriving someone of the ability to earn a living using the state is a form of violence.

This implies things like false accusations or even YouTube false flagging runs are necessarily "violence" per stated standard. Or even a jealous ex that calls an employer to get back at their former partner.

What's next, "self defense" against such actions? The third example would even count as "domestic violence" then.

 

[ashendashin]

Well, it sure sounds like this distinction is an important one to draw.



I wonder to whom you are trying to signal virtue? Cretinous transphobes perhaps?

Not really. You and others damage your own standing with your misuse of words to the point I felt like pointing out how silly it is. Admittedly, it's also very annoying for me to read.

 

[Lexicus]

Not really. You and others damage your own standing with your misuse of words to the point I felt like pointing out how silly it is. Admittedly, it's also very annoying for me to read.

I'm not too concerned with my "standing" among linguistic prescriptivists, but thanks for the faux concern.

 

[ashendashin]

I'm not too concerned with my "standing" among linguistic prescriptivists, but thanks for the faux concern.

And if you don't care about those others, well, have fun encouraging real violence on people you believe are constantly acting it out, which is par for course in these parts.

 

[El_Machinae]

I don't need to decide whether or not it is actually violence, since I am willing to craft the message based on the audience. Some people don't mind firing transgender people, and ruining their resumes in the process. They don't mind breaking a few eggs in order to make an omelette.

The best you can do is remind them that they are okay with perpetuating an injustice on a minority. And get them to admit it in front of others

 

[Lexicus]

They don't mind breaking a few eggs in order to make an omelette.

There is a problem with this metaphor. What is the omelette in this scenario?