Shooting at San Diego Synagogue

[AmazonQueen]

I'd like to know more about the first one, not heard about that.

Second one... well isn't that just par for the course in America?

Third... well yes that's technically violence I suppose, but are you saying that deporting people in general is inherently a moral wrong? Or that this never happens anywhere else, or in the US before Trump was elected?

Trumps ban on transgender in military https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46963426
Estimates for the number of people possibly affected vary widely but even at the lowest estimates its thousands of people

 

[Berzerker]

Again I will ask, what are minority groups supposed to do when there is a sitting president and party willin to legislate and enact violence against them?

Are they supposed to sit down and take it?

You aren't an ally to those groups, at best your a bystander twiddling their thumbs.

they should vote for Biden and then twiddle their thumbs as he gets violent on other minorities

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I have to object to rather free definition of "violence" here.

 

[Berzerker]

pay your taxes or else

oops, never mind... Not a government is the devil thread

 

[abradley]

obviously wed both disagree with them. the fact that they 1. think theres such a thing as a white country 2. think white people are deserving to have an entire country for themselves and 3. how do they plan to rid these "white countries" of non-whites?

im going to go out on a limb and assume we all know what the answer is to #3. that alone demonstrates that they couldnt care less about being hypocrites. its a moot point. theyre white supremacists. fortunately within 20-30 more years there wont be many of them left. at least not enough to have any meaningful say when it comes to anything political, so until then we need to exercise damage control and literally run out the clock.



there should be no quarter given to white supremacists. the fact that we still allow them to display their hate and bigotry in public speaks to just how intrinsic white privilege is to any society dominated by europeans. giving racists a platform to speak only provides them with a false appearance of legitimacy that they do not deserve and have no right to.


did i read this correctly? im suppose to be a bad guy for out-grouping fascists?

i mean, why be concerned about the people who were killed by an alt-right terrorist attack when we have white privilege to protect?


classic trumpist whataboutism

because joe biden may have awkwardly hugged a few women democrats are on the same footing as a president who has said "grab them by the ***** " and "you know women, you have to treat them like *feces* " and who knows what other vile and disgusting things dump has said in private over the years? one can only imagine.

hh

I was in my thirties during the 60' when the civil rights laws were passed, can't speak for all Americans but I felt it was a great moment, we had finally become a 'melting pot', but instead we became a 'salad bowl' with everybody claiming they were being oppressed.

By the way, in the 60's I was a liberal/Dem, now I am a conservative/Repub. Why did I change?

 

[zazazuzu]

People, no matter what the pigment of their skin, are the victims, and the aggressors. All people are the problem. All people are the solution.

 

[Berzerker]

I was in my thirties during the 60' when the civil rights laws were passed, can't speak for all Americans but I felt it was a great moment, we had finally become a 'melting pot', but instead we became a 'salad bowl' with everybody claiming they were being oppressed.

By the way, in the 60's I was a liberal/Dem, now I am a conservative/Repub. Why did I change?

you got mugged?

 

[Hamid.H]

By the way, in the 60's I was a liberal/Dem, now I am a conservative/Repub. Why did I change?

marginally less white privilege and african-americans are considered people now?

hh

 

[zazazuzu]

By the way, in the 60's I was a liberal/Dem, now I am a conservative/Repub. Why did I change?

I'm sure there's a very interesting answer. But what I'd like an answer to is: What is Conservative, or Republican, about supporting Donald Trump?

 

[Ajidica]

By the way, in the 60's I was a liberal/Dem, now I am a conservative/Repub. Why did I change?

You are aging, mean, and rich?

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[zazazuzu]

You are aging, mean, and rich?

(skip to ~1:00)

That one doesn't work for me, how about this one

 

[El_Machinae]

I have to object to rather free definition of "violence" here.

It's true. It's also been a long and aged part of the debate. We view employment as consensual, and so the removal of employment is also seen as consensual. Until you start fining people for serving transgendered people, it's not really 'violence'. It's a bit different when it's the state unemploying people without cause. But it's still not violence. Just a 'refusal to hire'.

Changing the rules of employment so that people get laid off with a socially tough line on their resume is ... harmful. But you have a hard time saying it's violence.

 

[abradley]

You are aging, mean, and rich?
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As for aging, if I am Con/Repub because of age what about Bernie Sanders and the rest of the Dem candidate wannabees ... hello mr Biden.

And as for being Rich, I wish.

Mean?

 

[El_Machinae]

Do you 'believe' in Supply Side economics?

 

[zazazuzu]

As for aging, if I am Con/Repub because of age what about Bernie Sanders and the rest of the Dem candidate wannabees ... hello mr Biden.

And as for being Rich, I wish.

Mean?

I hope I die long before my mental faculties have deteriorated to the point that I'm ok with supporting someone like Donald Trump.

 

[zazazuzu]

Do you 'believe' in Supply Side economics?

Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be...

 

[abradley]

Do you 'believe' in Supply Side economics?

If your asking me, I'll answer what is supply side economic?

 

[zazazuzu]

If your asking me, I'll answer what is supply side economic?

Nothing much. The long brown stains below 16th century European windows are more reality based.

 

[abradley]

Do you 'believe' in Supply Side economics?

After a 'Duck Duck Go' search it seems Supply Side Economics is 'Trickle down economics' and my economic guru Thomas sowell sez ;

 

[zazazuzu]

OMG, America has a gun problem! Ya think?