Christ, they want $80CAD to pre-order this? All they've shown us of the actual game is 3 cartoony looking screenshots, with some vague promises of things being like CiV but slightly different. Is that seriously all people need to fork over that much cash on a pre-order? Fooled me once with Civ:BE Firaxis, never again. Think I'll amuse myself with EUIV for awhile longer.