Stigma against Communism?

[Tycoon101]

Um, yeah, you see, in a normal place you dont NEED a gun to kill someone, because no one would be trying to KILL YOU for having beliefs. You just owned yourself with your statement.

Then what were you just saying. You are scared to go to the South. I said that if you are armed then you can defend yourself against attackers.

 

[Tycoon101]

IQ test...

IQ tests don't work, they are flawed

 

[Red Stranger]

Why? Whats the problem with everyone starting off on an equal footing and working for their money?

What's the incentive to work hard if the government is going to take all the money away from you anyways. That argument is like saying everybody should develop their own theory of math before going into business.

Now, when the government takes away the money, who are they going to give it to? Lazy people who don't work hard?

 

[eyrei]

okay look, maybe what I said was wrong. I know many of the south are racist (like 40% voted democrats or something), but that doesn't mean they are NOT racist. Everyone I know is scared of hell of being black and being dropped in the middle of the south cause you know by the end of the day you'd probably be killed for nothing. It's like a survival game were going to do DND with, aka your party is four black men who get teleported into the deep south and your goal is travelling up north while the whole population is trying to kill ya.

So, without ever have been here you are willing to pass judgement on the entire society?

Moderator Action: I suggest you stop trolling. I am beginning to lose patience. Eyrei.
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[eyrei]

Moderator Action: Please keep this thread on topic. Eyrei.
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[Quinzy]

im going to put this bluntly and frankly.i doubt i'll be posting again in this thread, but anyways.

im near the same age as you, and i know this for a fact: this is a phase. you will grow out of this. you will be 35 and working and being glad as hell you're getting the money you are by working and not giving it to some lazy slob living off thestate for free..

 

[The Last Conformist]

Me, and my Fellow Right-Wing Conservatives. You should not rob the rich and give to the poor like Robin Hood, that means that the rich have no rights.

Sorry, I wasn't aware you were the arbiter of morality.

 

[Tycoon101]

I don't know anything about propaganda vs. Communism. I just know the acute cotrasts between Communism and Capitalism.

 

[Tycoon101]

Sorry, I wasn't aware you were the arbiter of morality.

I am morality personified
I have definite views and I get angered by people who breach them.

 

[The Last Conformist]

I think this thread has outlived its usefulness.

Don't say that - it's got me to downgrade one poster to "irredeemable kook" status this far.

 

[Tycoon101]

Don't say that - it's got me to downgrade one poster to "irredeemable kook" status this far.

May I chance a guess at who this 'kook' is?

Spoiler Irredemable kook :

Me!

 

[Princeps]

Communism wasn't successful, it doesn't suit human nature. But, I agree that communism and communists are overtly demonized and their achievements are often forgotten. Like how they managed to raise Russia from a poor rural and wartorn economy to an industrial, agricultural and militaristic super power, despite their rather disturbing methods.

 

[The Last Conformist]

@Tycoon: You may, but telling if you're right or not would be against the rules.

 

[Truronian]

What's the incentive to work hard if the government is going to take all the money away from you anyways. That argument is like saying everybody should develop their own theory of math before going into business.

Now, when the government takes away the money, who are they going to give it to? Lazy people who don't work hard?

There is still incentive. Your money would only get redistributed after death to ensure everyone gets an equal education and an equal chance to succeed in life. Lazy people who don't work hard would just have a poorer life with no money.

 

[eyrei]

Moderator Action: Again, stay on topic, stop spamming, and stop trolling. If your post is the one that convinces me to close this thread, you will be banned. Eyrei.
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[Tycoon101]

There is still incentive. Your money would only get redistributed after death to ensure everyone gets an equal education and an equal chance to succeed in life. Lazy people who don't work hard would just have a poorer life with no money.

That sounds like a fair plan, there just needs to be a meeting of all the people who would be affected by this and have a vote on whether or not to implement that idea.

Edit: 500th post!

Edit #2: Can anyone propose a method to meld Communism and Capitalism together so that we won't have any scathing arguments like this?

 

[nonconformist]

Edit #2: Can anyone propose a method to meld Communism and Capitalism together so that we won't have any scathing arguments like this?

Yeah, it's called the "Welfare State".
Welcome to Europe.

@TLC:

You know, I've never ever had a "List of the Fundementally Lacking", but within the last few weeks, my list has started, and grown.

 

[skadistic]

Since your only 16 I'll chalk up your ideals to youth.

Communism doesn't work. It never has it never will.

 

[Phlegmak]

I'm a 16 y/o Communist living in California and when I tell this to other people they look at my like I am crazy. Do people really believe all that Cold War propaganda that was going around? Hasn't america learned its lesson with the Joe McCarthy fiasco that Commie bashing is just another witch hunt? You can read about it here: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmccarthy.htm

You can see all this crap that Americans believe about communism is just leftovers from the COld War. NONE OF IT IS TRUE. No communists don't want to burn everything down and kill everyone and force them to work for the govt (we already got George Bush to do that).

Why can't people accept our ideas as real and stop listening to that right wing propaganda that originated during the Cold War.


Oh and did you know, "Under GOd" was added to our pledhe of allegieance during the Cold War so Americans would appear "better" than the godless commies overseas?

Please reconsider your views on communism in this modern world.

Read this:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

 

[Commodore]

Commie, please read over this thread: Disillusioned Communist, it is for your own good. The thread is short, so it shouldn't consume too much time, and it will help you gain a more complete understanding of the problems with following ideologies (especially the posts made by Bozo Erectus).

Think for yourself mate, and join the legions of the liberated by breaking free of the chains of ideologies.