STR-05: Shaka the Virgin Conqueror

[pigswill]

Stuge has been MIA for a couple of days. Real life really is the curse of civilisation.

Got it.

No major rants (maybe I should take lessons).

Is it worth considering police state instead of HR?

Should have ivory on line soon. Maybe build some elephants (that will annoy Betty's horse archers).

I presume we'll raze last chinese city.

The wonders were my doing . I thought the AIs would build them and the world bank would pay us some compensation.

 

[stuge]

Real life, including essays, really does suck.

If there's a significant amount of WW, a switch to police state might be good. The 25% bonus to military builds would probably speed the inevitable up a little.

 

[GreyFox]

I doubt WW is substantial enough to warrant PS, though the military bonus is good. Plus most cities are relying on MP to sustain happiness ... for that matter, 2 cities in the east are unhappy. Suggest building an archer after the current build to take care of the redshirt.

 

[pigswill]

Bit of an uneventful turnset.

Built three forges in our established cities (Washington, NY, Ulundi). Unit production mainly focussed on cats, we seem to have plenty of maces and impis.

No sign of the English light cavalry.

Xian turned out tougher than expected. A CG3 longbow appeared almost out of nowhere (before I'd done any attacking) abd even after battering defences I still managed to lose two maces and two swords, but the job got done and by 1235 China was no more.

Got the ivory hooked up, we probably need HBR if we want elephants. Impis have been systematically pillaging the terrain formerly known as China to support our economy. Reconnected the copper, Tok turned up and landed a sword and an elephant nearby but I sacrificed a cat then polished them off.

With all the fighting going on we got another GG. Looking through the cities Washington was the most productive so we got an MI established there.

Warfare really is 90% logistics: I spent most of my time trying to get units heading towards England in a couple of proper stacks, a task that remains incomplete.

Engineering is getting close to complete. I sacked our scientists because they were more use working tiles and the game should be virtually won before they would have produced another GS.

Not a very exciting set but hopefully has helped somewhat.

 

[Strauss]

The world will be ours soon.

Roster:
1) Strauss --> on deck
2) GreyFox
3) stuge --> skipped
4) pigswill --> just played
5) ungy --> UP

 

[ungy]

Sorry guys I still can't get warlords to run Not sure why but I'll be on another comp soon enough. So I'll have to take another skip-sorry not to have done much this game but seems like you guys have things well under control.

 

[Strauss]

No problem ungy. Guess that makes me UP. Don't have any plans for tonight so I'll get to this when football's over.

 

[Strauss]

Engineering came in and I started on Feudalism for lack of anything better at this stage.

Our troops are ready to attack London next turn and York in two.

Roster:
1) Strauss --> just played
2) GreyFox --> UP
3) stuge --> skip?
4) pigswill --> on deck?
5) ungy

 

[GreyFox]

Got it, guess it is a pretty straight-forward turnset for me ... thanks for the set up, pigswill and strauss!

Relief to see Toku is quite close by.

 

[GreyFox]

Nothing much to rant about, simply reassign archers in our eastern cities so that those nearer to happy cap has more MPs. Switched a city that is building cat for 33 turns to a granary instead (remember to whip it).

Strauss set me up nicely, and England soon became history:

Meanwhile, we learn Feudalism, and we revolted.

Not going to help much, but better than nothing.

I decided to return the favor, and let pigswill enjoy a bit of plundering thrill:

If you want, I think it is possible to take Osaka before hitting enter, but I would wait if it was me. Let's hope Toku do not have a vast empire -- if so, this is probably my last turnset

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Turn 280/660 (1340 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:13:48]
GreyFox: Reassign archer in NY to Washington to take care of impending redshirts
Guangzhou begins: Granary (45 turns)
Djenne grows: 12
Djenne finishes: Trebuchet
Beijing grows: 9

IBT:

Turn 281/660 (1346 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:16:12]
Djenne begins: Maceman (6 turns)
While attacking in English territory at London, Catapult loses to: English Longbowman (6.00/6) (Prob Victory: 0.4%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Maceman loses to: English Longbowman (4.92/6) (Prob Victory: 22.0%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Maceman defeats (3.92/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 87.0%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Maceman defeats (6.88/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.8%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Maceman loses to: English Longbowman (4.02/6) (Prob Victory: 93.2%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Maceman defeats (2.24/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 69.5%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Catapult defeats (0.75/5): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 88.4%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Francisco Pizarro (Impi) defeats (1.44/4): English Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 95.7%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Catapult defeats (4.20/5): English Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
While attacking in English territory at London, Maceman defeats (8.00/8): English Catapult (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Hinduism has spread: London
Confucianism has spread: London
Captured London (Elizabeth)
Razed London
London lost
A Farm was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Village near York was destroyed by Zulu Chandragupta Maurya (Impi)
A Hamlet near York was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Cottage near York was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Hamlet near York was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Farm was built near Timbuktu
A Hamlet was built near Washington
Berlin grows: 10

IBT:
While defending in the wild near York, War Elephant defeats (5.76/8): English Catapult (Prob Victory: 98.9%)
While defending in the wild near York, War Elephant defeats (4.56/8): English Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 82.2%)
While defending in the wild near York, War Elephant defeats (0.96/8): English Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 64.8%)
While defending in the wild near Nottingham, Maceman loses to: English Horse Archer (0.96/6) (Prob Victory: 50.5%)

Turn 282/660 (1352 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:26:09]
A Mine was built near New York
While attacking in the wild, War Elephant defeats (8.00/8): English Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in the wild near Nottingham, Pikeman defeats (6.00/6): English Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Village near York was destroyed by Zulu Chandragupta Maurya (Impi)
A Hamlet near York was destroyed by Zulu Impi
Maceman promoted: City Raider II
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
A Farm near York was destroyed by Zulu Francisco Pizarro (Impi)
Ulundi finishes: Trebuchet
uMgungundlovu finishes: Trebuchet
Berlin finishes: Trebuchet
A Town was built near Beijing
A Town was built near Beijing

IBT:

Turn 283/660 (1358 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:30:42]
Ulundi begins: Catapult (3 turns)
uMgungundlovu begins: Catapult (3 turns)
Berlin begins: Catapult (3 turns)
A Mine was built near Djenne
A Village near York was destroyed by Zulu Impi
While attacking in English territory at York, Maceman defeats (2.24/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 82.6%)
While attacking in English territory at York, Maceman defeats (2.56/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 74.8%)
While attacking in English territory at York, Maceman loses to: English Longbowman (1.62/6) (Prob Victory: 70.2%)
While attacking in English territory at York, Impi defeats (2.08/4): English Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 95.7%)
While attacking in English territory at York, Catapult defeats (2.90/5): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 97.5%)
Buddhism has spread: York
Confucianism has spread: York
Captured York (Elizabeth)
Razed York
York lost
A Village was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Hamlet was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
New York finishes: Trebuchet
Washington finishes: Trebuchet
Timbuktu finishes: War Elephant

IBT:

Turn 284/660 (1364 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:39:47]
New York begins: Maceman (5 turns)
Washington begins: Archer (2 turns)
Timbuktu begins: Forbidden Palace (25 turns)
A Farm near Nottingham was destroyed by Zulu Impi
Maceman promoted: City Raider III
A Town was destroyed by Zulu Chandragupta Maurya (Impi)
A Village was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Quarry was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Hamlet was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Impi
uMgungundlovu finishes: Catapult
Djenne finishes: Maceman
Nobamba grows: 7

IBT:

Turn 285/660 (1370 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:44:51]
uMgungundlovu begins: Maceman (5 turns)
Djenne begins: Maceman (5 turns)
While attacking in English territory near Nottingham, Maceman defeats (0.80/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 93.1%)
A Village near Nottingham was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Hamlet was destroyed by Zulu Impi
Ulundi finishes: Catapult
A Town was built near New York
Washington finishes: Archer
Berlin finishes: Catapult
Beijing grows: 10

IBT:

Turn 286/660 (1376 AD) [15-Oct-2007 10:50:25]
Ulundi begins: Maceman (5 turns)
Washington begins: Archer (2 turns)
Berlin begins: Catapult (3 turns)
While attacking in English territory at Nottingham, Catapult loses to: English Longbowman (3.84/6) (Prob Victory: 0.9%)
While attacking in English territory at Nottingham, Maceman defeats (6.56/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 84.6%)
While attacking in English territory at Nottingham, Maceman defeats (3.92/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 96.1%)
While attacking in English territory at Nottingham, Maceman defeats (1.60/8): English Longbowman (Prob Victory: 70.3%)
While attacking in English territory at Nottingham, Maceman defeats (4.80/8): English Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.4%)
Hinduism has spread: Nottingham
Confucianism has spread: Nottingham
Captured Nottingham (Elizabeth)
English Empire has been eliminated
Razed Nottingham
Nottingham lost
A Hamlet was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Village was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Hamlet was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Impi
While attacking in the wild near Osaka, Maceman defeats (6.80/8): Japanese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 93.1%)
While attacking in Japanese territory near Osaka, Axeman loses to: Japanese Swordsman (0.24/6) (Prob Victory: 91.0%)
While attacking in the wild near Osaka, Axeman defeats (5.00/5): Japanese Swordsman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Pasture was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Maceman
Tech learned: Feudalism
Washington grows: 15
A Hamlet was built near Timbuktu

IBT:

Turn 287/660 (1382 AD) [15-Oct-2007 11:01:05]
Research begun: Guilds (2140 Turns)
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
Maceman promoted: City Raider II
A Town near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Village near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Impi
Maceman promoted: City Raider II

IBT:
Civics Change: STR-05(Zululand) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 288/660 (1388 AD) [15-Oct-2007 11:07:39]
A Village was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Hamlet near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Cottage near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Impi
A Hamlet near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Impi
New York grows: 13
Timbuktu grows: 11
Berlin finishes: Catapult
A Town was built near Guangzhou

IBT:

Turn 289/660 (1394 AD) [15-Oct-2007 11:12:26]
Berlin begins: Maceman (5 turns)
A Hamlet was destroyed by Zulu Axeman
A Hamlet near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Francisco Pizarro (Impi)
A Cottage near Osaka was destroyed by Zulu Francisco Pizarro (Impi)
New York finishes: Maceman
Berlin's borders expand

IBT:

Turn 290/660 (1400 AD) [15-Oct-2007 11:16:01]
New York begins: Catapult (3 turns)
A Cottage was destroyed by Zulu Axeman

 

[stuge]

Time to make (Toku) history.

 

[stuge]

(There should be two pictures of Japanese cities being put to the sword here but I apparently forgot to take them. Osaka and some fishing village.)

Our stacks are currently healing. Satsuma will fall soon. A Japanese SoD from the north prevented me from taking it. Throwing away some catapults took care of it. The lone sword up there is all that's left of it.

I have lost all interest in MM at this stage, although it hardly matters. Just keep producing random units and this game will be over in max two rounds.

SAVE

 

[pigswill]

Got it. Started playing. Two cities in two turns. 3 cities left.

 

[pigswill]

Two more cities in the next three turns.

Once city to go:

Over to Strauss .

 

[Strauss]

I will try my best with the means you have given me pigswill.

 

[Strauss]

"Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind."

We never even got to Gunpowder....


The First Victim

Into the West

Subjugation of Mali

Rampage in Germany

Conquering China

The End of England

Last Man Standing

 

[Strauss]

Afterthought:

A pleasant way of losing my Always War virginity. Once we finished off America and Mali it didn't seem like much of a contest anymore, and we managed to win before Gunpowder. I've read stories of brutal AW Prince games (solo and SG's), so why was it so easy now? I guess starting with our northern and eastern borders clear of enemies made a big difference in our offensive possibilities. But a thumbs up for the team as well, great game guys.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/78327/STR-05_AD-1496_1.rar

 

[pigswill]

I think the decisive point was capturing Washington. Not only did we keep the momentum going but the Great Wall meant we could raze freely without worrying about fogbusting or barbarians pillaging our territory.

I've never been a fan of swords before but this game has taught me that they have an important niche between axe rush and cats.

A well-played and friendly game.

 

[GreyFox]

I think it might be different if "Tech Tading" was turned on ... but that is as good as pumping the difficulty to Monarch or Emperor since the human has no one to trade.

Agreed with the previous posters on the decisive move on America early game. One more thing that contributed to our success was that Japan, the furthest Civ, was in a crappy land. So even though he goes unmolested throughout most of the game, Toku never get too strong to offer any real fight.

Thanks to Strauss for a good game.

--

 

[ungy]

Well done all--sorry I couldn't do much near the end.

I didn't realize tech trading was off? To be honest the game seemed a little easy and that might have been part of it.

I'd say we had a few things going for us:

1) access to early copper and then iron. Not too much fun w/o copper.

2) starting at more or less the end of the landmass. Had we been in the center it would have been more difficult. We got to concentrate our forces on a single front and some of the AI were too far away to really do anything.