Succession LK 11 - English, anybody plays.

[6-of-october]

1470 - 1500 AD
Hurried a couple of knights in DOver and another city

Japan land a Sumari near Dover he destroys road
We finishe off the worthless invadors using our hurried knight, he gains experiance and becomes vetran..
there is not barraks in most cities
we talk to all the other civs to join the war aginst the agressors in Japan.. we teach them banking so they can finance their war.

NOW Japan is a common enemy to the rest of the world

Another landing in the NORTH!!!! near nottingham.. Lucky we got knights in London.. they fend off the attack

We Sell chemistry to the civilized world..
we get wines and 15/turn from Babylon..150 + 28/t fromGermany...15 + 5/t from India... 40 + 10/t + world map from France.. We hope they are really fighting Japan since we dont seem to have a real army.. we are building baracks and knights everywhere.

during the above 30 years the observatory was completed and a couple of universitys rushed.

1505 we complete JS bach boy oh boy ppl rejoice .. together with wine our cities hail for the king

1510 everyone is building Magellan

1515 another Landing near hastings we defended victoriously.. we now know how to make cannons ..

1520 Discovered Magnatesim target is Military tradition then we will have power to go on offensive. maybe a Golden age too.
another surprise landing near Hastings again.. this time two samuri..

1525 We finish one of the samuri hurt the other but lose a knight in the process.

I desicide that I have done enough damage

I resign and leave it for someone with more experiance...
we are making 52 gold /turn and discovery every 4 turns in time of war .. wow thats a good game you have here

I am sorry for the crappy english I am usually better at this..I should proof read. Hope you understand .

 

[Dark Sheer]

We seems to be doing rather well I must say! We should launch our own offensive once we manage to get Calvary so we can take the battle to Japan rather than let them bring the battle to us!!

 

[Dark Sheer]

Alright, I will go for the next 20 turns.

Will post the result in a bit as usual

 

[Dark Sheer]

1525AD - Lord Dark Sheer once again back in the seat of power in England. A quick look around the empire tells him that the English forces is a little on the weak side. A few spearman has been quickly upgraded to Musketman.

1530AD - The lone samurai is quickly dispatched off by our knight. Several knights are completed and Newcastle starts to build Magellan (or as a place holder )

1535AD - Babylonian landed some units on our island.

1540AD - Babylonian declare war on us!

1545AD - Babylonian forces dispatched off. English continue to build her military. Military tradition discovered, now researching theory of gravity.

1550AD - 1st Man-O-war completed in Coventry! Japan and Germany signed peace treaty.

1555AD - Upgraded most knights into Calvary.

1560AD - Quiet

1565AD - Discovered Theory of Gravity and going for Steam Power next. Another Man-O-War completed and starting to build some Galleon for some possible invasion. Japan sue for peace and pay us 40gp. We traded Dye and Gem for Furs and Incense with the Japanese.

1570AD - Palace again expanded and people all over England celebrating the end of war with Japan (Its noted that the Japanese kingdom do not have any iron).

1575AD - Sank a Babylonian Caravel.

1580AD - Quiet

1585AD - Sank another Babylonian Caravel.

1590AD - English Man-O-War go on a high sea chase for the last Babylonian Caravel.

1595AD - Sank the third Babylonian Caravel. And what do you know? Our admiral just reported the sighting of another Caravel off English coast.

1600AD - Lots of trading to increase our treasury which is running very low.

1605AD - Destroyed Babylonian's iron source with bombardment.

1615AD - Quiet as our galleon sail towards Babylonian shore.

1620AD - Quiet.

1625AD - Our forces landed next to Ur. Finally bring the war to Babylonian land!

1630AD - The English army is victorious!! A Babylonian Frigate is sunk! Ur is captured and with it comes Hanging Garden! English did not loose a single unit and another galleon with 3 calvary and 1 musketman is heading towards Ur as reinforcement. Lord Dark Sheer step down from the seat of power and lost himself in the newly acquired Babylonian garden.

Here is the savegame.

 

[BrianJ]

I'd like to play tonight or tomorrow morning. If someone else wants to play before that, I'll play after them.

 

[Readylander]

I've got the game, will play some turns.

 

[JoeM]

Slaughter the Babylonians! They've got it coming to them!

No seriously it's the most obvious territory to take - see my first post.

Without the land, we can't generate a competitive economy vs. the Japanese.

 

[Readylander]

Well, in 1655 the game locked up on me. I have been having some problems with Civ3 in the last week. I will do a reinstall later today or tomorrow. But for now I must pass the game.

Here are my notes from looking at Dark Sheer's save of 1630AD:

Before ending turn:
Finances are not in the best of shape. We need to get our treasury up from the current 50 to above 1,000 so we aren't wasting the interest potential of Wall Street.
Trade gems to France for 7 gpt
Drop science rate 10%, increases income by 70 gpt and only increases next tech by one turn.
Take all cities off wealth production. Highest shield producers are started on factories.
Qwglm production changed to granary, it will be a great shield producer but needs some help in the growth area. Same with Norwich. Both cities will be switched to factories when granaries done. Workers will change some of the mines around these cities to irrigation so they can grow and get some of the high shield hills/mountians working for us.
Also changed some of the other cities production orders.
After all cities are off wealth production we are at net income of 60 gpt.
Wake Galleon in Ur and send it back towards the mainland, we need to get troops over to Babland as soon as possible. Also woke the caravel in Canterbury and moved it into position to load troops next turn.

Good luck to the next leader. I hope it is my computer that caused the lock-up and not something in the savegame.

 

[BrianJ]

If you post your save I'll try it tonight

 

[Dark Sheer]

Originally posted by JoeM
Slaughter the Babylonians! They've got it coming to them!

No seriously it's the most obvious territory to take - see my first post.

Without the land, we can't generate a competitive economy vs. the Japanese.

Babylonian was my target from the very start

But then due to no proper transport I have suggested the invasion to be shelfed until later. Looks like now is the time since Babylon declare war on English during my turn

Perhaps you want to give the game another go?

 

[Readylander]

Brian,

Due to the lock up I am afraid that any save from me might be corrupted. So play from Dark Sheer's save.

Good luck,

Readylander

 

[BrianJ]

Sorry about your turn Readylander. I'm playing from Dark Sheer's save.

 

[meldor]

I have the file and wil post results shortly.

Edit: Sorry, Brians post didn't show until after I posted.....will wait for him to finish...

 

[BrianJ]

I didn't get a chance to play last night.. (olympics ) I'll try to finish this morning.

 

[BrianJ]

Damn! I lost my history..

Summary of 1635 - 1655:
I follow previous leaders advice and set production accordingly.

Ur flips back to Babylon but I take it again. Lose as couple of muskets in the process. Only Cavalry holding the fort now.

More troops land in Ur.

1660:
More troops land.

1665:
Newtons University completed in London.

1670:
The Babs throw a couple of knights at our Cavalry stack. They prove to be touogher than expected.
We sink a Bab Frigate.

The Babs now have Riflemen also..

The Babs ask for an audience. They want peace, offer Democracy, 11 gold per turn and 4 workers. We turn them down.

Japan wants to cancel Fur and Incense deal. They were getting Gems and Dyes. We renegotiate the exact same deal!


1675:
Attack on Babylon is repulsed with no loss of units.
We sink a Bab Frigate.

1680:
Repel attacks, troop movement back home.
A Bab Frigate sinks our Man-O-War!

1685:
Discover Sanitation, Research Electricity, bee-lining for Theory-Of-Evolution.


1690:
We lose another MoW! Our Admiral is hanged at the Yardham of our remaining warship.

We take Akkad!

1695:
Troops approach Ashur.
An idiot Galleon Captain moves right next to a Bab Frigate! The 4 Cavalry divisions hang the Captain, as the Babs open fire!

Our captain is rescued as the Bab frigate sinks to the bottom of the ocean! Other Bab ships pass right by!?

1700:
Troops approach Ashur, fail to take it. A conscript Rifleman kills one Cavalry.

1705:
A large force of Knights attacks and destroys a couple of Cavalry in the stack by Ashur.
A Bab Galleon sinks our last Man-O-War!?!
We take Ashur!

1710:
War Weariness hits our cities. It also hits our valiant leader.

The war didn't go as well as could be expected.. Maybe Meldor did better?
In any case, we now have 3 Bab cities. They have a fleet of galleons and warships outside Ur wating for our Galleys. We have 1 Ironclad to surprise them with however, and another on the way.. Put it to good use!

The Babs will make peace now if you want, or continue the war.. Up to the next leader. All Bab cities are in danger of flipping still.

Aim towards Scientific Method and ToE.. free tech! Keep an eye on Japan, they are big now. Babylon has one city on the Japanese mainland somehow..

King Brian retires to a villa in Norwich. Good luck to the next leader!

 

[LKendter]

Well is has been a while since I played this one ....

Downloading and playing NOW.

 

[Dark Sheer]

Wow, the war that started with me seems to be going well! If we intend to hold on to the Babylonian cities we should go for Babylon and push their capital away from the newly captured cities to reduce chances of flipping. Those coastal cities are just too close to Babylon.

Of course, if we can't hold on to the newly captured cities then raze them! We can always send new settlers from the English mainland to build new ones later.

 

[LKendter]

Preturn -
I change Oxford to factory, I want to up our production. Upgrade 1 spearman to rifleman. I play the factory gambit in London. It burns down our cash, but we will get Universal suffarge a lot sooner. I drop science temporary to speed up rebuilding our cash, plus we have a LOT of military to upgrade.

We trade France Theory of Gravity for Democracy, World Map, 122g and 1gpt.
We trade Germany Medicine for Free Artistry, 70g and 15 gpt.

1715 - Decide the #1 railnet goad is to have all cities connected, rather then improve certain cities.
1720 - Kill 2 bab calvary at no cost. Babylon sings an MPP with France. Research begins on Scientific method. I want the free techs from ToE. Play dirty pool, and sign a MPP with Germany giving up Steam Power. We can't win with the current empire size.
1725 - The big highlight is capturing 2 bab workers.
1730 - A bad turn, as Babylon kills several Calvary. Upgrade several units to rifleman.
1735 - War between France and Germany
1745 - GACK! Babylon takes back Ur.
1750 - Upgrade more units, however at $100 / $120 a unit, this will take awhile.
1752 - Force to up the luxury rate again. One good piece of news with the war. Our Ironclad in Cantenburry sinks yet another ship. Ur is ours again, thanks to newly arrived cannons. In one of my hardest decision in a while, I give Japan tech that he demands. War with Japan = death, or Germany MPP and Japan gets larger. He is still annoyed. Give free map, still annoyed. Give $150, and he is polite. Begin research on Atomic Theory. Hoover dam in the hands of Japan = disaster.
1758 - Not the best deal, but I give Germany Iron for Spices. However, anything the builds up a civ near Japan ...
1766 - We get a great leader - Edward! No question what to do, form an army. Japan declares war on Germany. The MPP backfires!


Summary - This is a real challenge. There is a real danger of losing to Japan.
Keep upgrading our troops, just keep cash above $1000 for the Wall Street interest.
When Persepolis finishes ToE, start a palace to queue up for Hoovers. We MUST stop Japan from getting Hoover.
I am starting to have sucess vs. Babylon - we need cannon to soften them up
Next up - Whomever claims the spot.

 

[Dark Sheer]

I got the game and I will try my best for the next 20 turns.

 

[Dark Sheer]

1774AD - Lost a calvary on the mountian to a Bab calvary but that Bab calvary is soon dispatched with.

1776AD - Continue bombardment on Babylon

1778AD - Bombardment continued. Killed another Bab calvary near Ashur. Another 2 appear near Ashur.

1780AD - Captured Babylon! Our Army is totally useless at the moment due to the damages and had to rest. The good news is we now have Leonardo. We also captured 4 workers in the process.

1782AD - The 2 Bab calvary near Ashur turn to attack Babylon but only manage to do one damage to our rifleman. This 2 calvary is soon dispatched by our newly arrived Rifleman and Calvary in Babylon. MPP with Germany expired and Bismack do not wish to continue. Germany do not have a port to trade with us?

1784AD - Attack on Ashur by Bab once again failed and our calvary picked off their injured calvary. Hero's Epic completed.

1786AD - Killed a Bab calvary foolish enough to come near Babylon. 3 fresh Calvary arrived at Ur and send to the frontline.

1788AD - Killed another Bab calvary near Babylon as it tries to attack our newly arrived fresh calvary and our calvary is now elite. Picked off a bab frigate with our ironclad in Ur.

1790AD - Universal Suffrage completed in London. Now producing Rifleman. Peace with France and they paid us 20gp. Sold them dye for 5gp/turn.

1792AD - ToE completed and discovered communism and Espionage. We are now researching Sanitation so our cities can grow beyond size 12 to grab all the productions we can. Babylonian seems desparate as they send conscript riflemans towards Babylon while bypassing the stack outside their new capital, Nineveh? We picked off a regular rifleman outside Babylon and a regular calvary near Ashur. Also manage to kill 2 rifleman in Nineveh.

1794AD - Picked off a few units near Babylon and killed another rifleman in Nineveh.

1796AD - Upgraded all defensive units to Rifleman. Continue to pick off stray units near Babylon.

1798AD - Continued to picked off stray units. Our army arrived at Nineveh's gate.

1800AD - Continued to picked off stray units. Babylonian is losing badly in the war of attrition.

1802AD - Finally captured Nineveh! Gained 3 bombardment units (2 canon and 1 catapult).

1804AD - Discovered sanitation and going for replaceable parts. Lost 1 Ironclad to a Japanese Frigate. Keeping 3 Calvary in English Island to prepare for a Japanese attack.

1806AD - Forces marching towards Eridu.

1808AD - Bombardment and counter-bombardment started at Eridu. Germany declare war on us for not giving Communism.

1810AD - Battle for Eridu started. Killed off 2 rifleman but Bab seems to have a few more.

1812AD - Killed another 2 rifleman and we captured Eridu! Most of our units need rest at the moment.

Babylonian left 3 cities and they have lost their 2 saltpetre so no more calvary. Looks like our only choice is to quickly finish off Babylonian on the island than sue for peace. After that we should take on Japan (hopefully, as they are strong!) 2 injured rifleman just arrived at Nineveh. We should send our uninjured units in Nineveh together with the cannons towards the next target. And lastly our income is only 11gp per turn but we have close to 2000gp when we need to upgrade our rifleman to infantry in about 8 turns (if we have rubber that is )

Here is the savegame. Good luck to the next leader!