Suggestions and Requests

[JH Gong]

What makes the civ name change between 'Korea' and 'Joseon'?
'Cause if it's the medival/renaissance eras, I think the state religion (Korea if Buddhism, Joseon of Confucianism) would be much more appropriate.
Also, how about:
If age<=medival & capital is Pyungyang: kingdom of Goguryeo
If age<=medival & capital is Sangyeong or somewhere close (northeast to the Baekdu Mountain which is depicted as a peak in the north of Korean penninsula): kingdom of Balhae

Plus, I think 'Joseon Dynasty' is cooler than 'the kingdom of Joseon'.

//I know there's a thread dedicated to Civ Names suggestions, but it seemed to have been silent for some time so I'm writing it here.

 

[Leoreth]

It's unnecessarily involved to go by capitals because you will always have Hanseong, and usually Pyongyang, and the AI usually doesn't change capitals.

I generally avoid dynasty in dynamic names because dynasties are not states.

 

[Novicenoble]

It's unnecessarily involved to go by capitals because you will always have Hanseong, and usually Pyongyang, and the AI usually doesn't change capitals.

I generally avoid dynasty in dynamic names because dynasties are not states.

A dynasty was a state in pre-modern east Asia, especially under Chinese world-order of that time. I think it is good to use dynasties' names in dynamic names system.

 

[JH Gong]

A dynasty was a state in pre-modern east Asia, especially under Chinese world-order of that time. I think it is good to use dynasties' names in dynamic names system.

Hear hear.
I checked the DynamicCivs.py file and I see that it is indeed the age (medival/renaissance) that makes the difference between Goryeo and Joseon.
The state religion was one of the biggest social difference between the two kingdoms, so I really think that religion should be the criterion.
But this might result in AI Joseon being much harder to see (since AI wouldn't likely change its religion) so i have a suggestion:
When you replace the Hongwu LH and bring Sejong as a Korean leader, why not make it so that the Korean leader changes automatically (Wang Kon -> Sejong) around 1400 and set Sejong's favorite religion as Confucianism?
This would also reduce the chance that China would be the only country in the world whose state religion is Confucianism, and it might also make Japan more aggressive towards Korea, thus increasing the chance of Japanese invasion of Korea (which actually did happen in 1592).

 

[Leoreth]

I haven't paid attention to it recently, but previously I have seen Korea transitioning to Confucianism rather consistently.

 

[citis]

Austria capitulated to french republic during renaiscence. Austria controlled only Budapest and Vienne. So it should be called "confederation of the Danube" and not "confederation of the Rhine".

 

[ales_]

By the way, there can be two Confederations of the Rhine alive at the same time.

 

[merijn_v1]

I think there should be a river added next to Ayuthaya. (Between tile (100, 33) and (101, 33)). This will represent the Choa Phraya river. To avoid possible human exploit of Khmer, it should appear after the Thai spawn.

 

[LatestGuy]

Military Revolution

For a hypothetical military renewal, I propose an intermediate tech between Gunpowder, which provide Musketeer and Bombard, and Rifling.
This new tech would give:
Musketeer, that should be stronger than actual ones (maybe with extra drill promotion), which should be replaced by Arquebusiers;
Culverin, stronger than Bombard;
Star Fort, a sort of castle update, specifically effective against gunpowder units.

For some references: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Revolution#The_infantry_revolution_and_the_decline_of_cavalry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culverin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_fort

 

[Leoreth]

I think there should be a river added next to Ayuthaya. (Between tile (100, 33) and (101, 33)). This will represent the Choa Phraya river. To avoid possible human exploit of Khmer, it should appear after the Thai spawn.

I am actually quite sympathetic to the idea of removing Hainan and expanding Indochina to the east by one tile, in case I get to that I'll also add a river for the Thai.

(... and arrange things so that Thailand and Khmer can actually coexist without weird capital removals.)

 

[BenZL43]

(... and arrange things so that Thailand and Khmer can actually coexist without weird capital removals.)

Here's a city name for Angkor after the Thai spawn/conquered: Longvek
Hainan could be represented by that Island improvement, I think.

 

[Royal Tenenbaum]

I disagree. Hainan should stay as a tile, as it is much more productive and large than most of the islands represented by the island improvement. I am also fond of also moving the rice near Hong Kong to that island as well, since it's more historical.

 

[agentxorange]

I disagree. Hainan should stay as a tile, as it is much more productive and large than most of the islands represented by the island improvement. I am also fond of also moving the rice near Hong Kong to that island as well, since it's more historical.

Development is all about compromises though. The Khmer losing their capital is worse than Hainan being represented as an island. Khmer and Thai could probably use a little more room anyway.

 

[FinalLegendZero]

While the recent change to allow for settling one-tile islands regardless of jungle opens up a lot of previously unclaimable land, there are still some two-tile islands completely covered by jungle that remain unusable. Flat-out allowing settling them, however, would open up a lot of exploits for Polynesia to expand into Indonesia/Australia early. I suggest that Biology should allow for settling on jungle tiles.

 

[Leoreth]

Doesn't it already?

 

[FinalLegendZero]

Nope. It only allows for Workers to clear jungle off of tiles without resources. Settlers are still barred.

 

[Leoreth]

Okay that's odd, I wonder what makes the code treat that differently.

 

[merijn_v1]

Perhaps you should shrink the size of the CN tower. It way to big compared to the other buildings.

Spoiler :

 

[Shadow Warlord]

It's unnecessarily involved to go by capitals because you will always have Hanseong, and usually Pyongyang, and the AI usually doesn't change capitals.

I generally avoid dynasty in dynamic names because dynasties are not states.

An odd thing i've noticed about Pyongyang.

In 3000bc, korea normally settles it.

In 600 AD, they absolutely refuse to settle it. I've seen them settle the two adjacent hills and across the river, but never Pyongyang. Do you know why this is?

Also, HRE always settles Magdeburg in the same spot. Is this to keep them from founding Brandenburg/Berlin?

 

[Shadow Warlord]

I am actually quite sympathetic to the idea of removing Hainan and expanding Indochina to the east by one tile, in case I get to that I'll also add a river for the Thai.

(... and arrange things so that Thailand and Khmer can actually coexist without weird capital removals.)

This will be good. And soon, we will have...French Indochina!