Suggestions for Dynamic Names

If the Congo are vassalized to the Dutch: The Congo Free State

Yes, I know that the Belgian King Leopold II ruled said Congo Free State, but the Dutch are the closest we can get to the Belgians in this mod, right?
 
If the Congo are vassalized to the Dutch: The Congo Free State

Yes, I know that the Belgian King Leopold II ruled said Congo Free State, but the Dutch are the closest we can get to the Belgians in this mod, right?

Maybe only when the Dutch have their capital in Antwerpen :)
 
Classical Macedonia and modern Macedonia have nothing in common besides the name.
 
I don't know if these are possible, but oh well. I haven't played in a while and I'm not sure if Byzantium has a 3000 BC start.

If Byzantium spawns and Rome is alive:
Rome -> Western Roman Empire
Byzantium -> Eastern Roman Empire

If Rome falls and Byzantium is alive:
Eastern Roman Empire -> Byzantine Empire

If Byzantium is a vassal of France or the Netherlands:
Byzantine Empire -> Latin Empire
 
I don't know if these are possible, but oh well. I haven't played in a while and I'm not sure if Byzantium has a 3000 BC start.

If Byzantium spawns and Rome is alive:
Rome -> Western Roman Empire
Byzantium -> Eastern Roman Empire

If Rome falls and Byzantium is alive:
Eastern Roman Empire -> Byzantine Empire

If Byzantium is a vassal of France or the Netherlands:
Byzantine Empire -> Latin Empire

Those dynamic names are currently used. I think Latin Empire is the name of Byzantium if they are a vassal of any catholic/protestant nation.
 
Then get rid of Alexander the Great. He wasnt Greek, but MACEDONIAN. currently, we are representing both nations under Greece.

All southeastern Europe was changed forever during the Dark Ages by the great Slavic migrations, movements of huge Slavic tribes into the area exterminated or assimilated anything left of Classical Civilization north of Greece itself until Byzantines latter reasserted cultural/military dominance in the area.

It would be like using Celtic leaders for France, basically.
 
Classical Macedonia and modern Macedonia have nothing in common besides the name.

All southeastern Europe was changed forever during the Dark Ages by the great Slavic migrations, movements of huge Slavic tribes into the area exterminated or assimilated anything left of Classical Civilization north of Greece itself until Byzantines latter reasserted cultural/military dominance in the area.

Yes and yes.

Alexander the Great is definitely NOT Macedonian in the modern sense.

He is, however, ethnically at least half Greek because his mother is Greek. How ethnically Greek is his father though is a matter of some debate.

That said, I believe we should classify leaders more with their political and cultural affiliations, rather than ethnicity. That is why Catherine the Great is a leader of Russia and Victoria is a leader of England, instead of both of them being leaders of Germany. :rolleyes:
 
Territory works better. States are not unincorporated.

Territory implies we actually own the territory directly in US politics.
It stands as this in levels of how much they are part of the US:

military Occupation: American zones of Austria and Germany and all of Japan after WW2. Obviously, this is military occupation.

Protectorate: Cuba and Panama(effectively. Had someone attacked them, the US would have into full war with the aggressor or at least give panama a $@&$ ton of help. More likely would have directly intervened.) this is closest in function to a vassal. Phillippines I think might have also been one.

Commonwealth (different from UK definition.) and Uncorporated organized territory: Guam, Puetro Rico, The virgin islands, and the Mariana Islands. Puetro Rico and the Mariana Islands are US commonwealths, so they have a higher standing than the other two. This is the first level were one has US citizenship. This is also the second level that America owns directly.

Incorporated Unorganized territory: this level is the level of stuff owned by America, and thats the only relation it has. It includes up to 12 miles out at sea, many atolls, AND ALL
US ships. Military and civilian. Though the military ships technically are far more organized...it's called discipline. The first level the US owns. Note: US owned shop implies it has been registered in the US. It does not need be owned by an American.

Incorporated Organized Territory: hawaii before it was a state...this is one of the bigger lists, as most the states were made from territory in this category ( as in the territory was this level at time of statehood. Some states however were formed before they made it this far. California is one of the most noticeable, having managed to gain state hoodnin the course of only a few years from when we obtained it.Texas went directly from being a nation to being a full state. ) the other term for this is Territory. This is why calling a vassal a territory is incorrect, as the player would not even own said nation. These regions are fully part of the nation, more than Puetro rico is, and are also organized.

State: most places, state means the nation. In the us, it means the first level fully and completely part of the US. Even then, they have many powers typical of a nation, in fact the only one they don't have is Rights to diplomacy, and to negotiate treaties among the rest of the nation. The states have a right to maintain militias though, so they are allowed militaries though.

Counties: sub division of a state. A logical extension of federalism applied at the level of the state.

The Feds: The federal government: the glue that makes the 50 states not effectively 50 nations in alliance. Congress, the executive branch, supreme court, the military, CIA, FBI, DIA, the bureaucracy. This is what handles disputes between states. And they have the right to diplomacy and they own the full military, including the militias during times of war. They used to be less powerful, but because most domestic trade has a hard time not crossing borders for any of the needed parts of getting to a consumer (even food, as that fertilzer had to come from somewhere, just that place could be some where not in state.), the feds could more easily push the states around using their constitutional right o regulate interstate commerce. For example, if a state does not require a person be 21 years or older to buy achohol, The feds withdraw 5% of the needed for funding transportation for that state. It worked. Mostly because they gave states that much funding for passing said laws, meaning it was a good idea to do so so they could fund thing easier.

all in all, Protectorate is what we must go with for American vassals. Terriotry implies we own the place directly. commonwelath does to. State simply can not work, for obvious reasons. protectorate implies said protected nation is independent territory wise and government wise. Which they are as a Vassal state
 
England when it's conquered France before the 1400's should be called the Plantagenet Empire.

It's called the Angevin Empire already if they vassalize France and are running Dynasticism. That should be extended to conquering France as well. Weirdly, though, France then becomes the Duchy of Anjou, when surely they should be something else (not sure what, but Anjou was an integral part of the Angevin Empire, not a vassal). The French territories at the peak of the Angevin Empire were Blois, Champagne, Burgundy and the Royal Domains, as well as some smaller territories, though of course they were outside of Angevin control.


Also:
If France is reduced to only Marseille/Lyon/southeast France: Kingdom of Burgundy
If France is reduced to only Bordeaux/southwest France: Kingdom of Aquitaine
If England is reduced to only Scotland: Kingdom of Scotland
If England is reduced to only Ireland: Kingdom of Ireland
 
If Indonesia is reduced to only Java: Kingdom of Mataram
If France is reduced to only Canada: Kingdom of Canada
If Portugal is reduced to only Brazil: Kingdom of Brazil
If Turkey is reduced to only Turkey: Sultanate of Rum
 
If England is reduced to the Americas: Empire of Britannia...better hope you have troops galore to stop rebellion. and even survive the failure of a war your having.

Portugal, when one owns most of Brazil and the Algarves: The United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil, and the Algarves. which came around because Napoleon conquered Portugal in europe, and the Portuguese court managed to escape to Brazil. The Portuguese king rather liked Rio de Janeiro, it turned out. Brazil also holds the distinction of being the only colony to have been the capital of the very empire it was a colony of. it proceeded to be leveled to that of a kingdom in 1815. this is why one need not own portugal to be called this, for The United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil, and the Algarves's capital was Rio de Janeiro for about 6 years.
 
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