Suggestions for Dynamic Names

[Leoreth]

I've included many of the suggestions in a recent commit. I settled for "New World Order" for fascist America; when I made that change I realized that my current name for it was "Empire of Columbia" which is pretty cool, too, so I used it for monarchist America.

Also, I also included leader changes into the same Python module, mainly because Rhye's mechanic was needlessly complicated in my opinion (leaders had a certain chance to appear after a certain year which doubled once you reached a certain era). In my version, the most leaders are associated with an era and appear once you reach it. Because the change isn't checked for every turn, this is not too deterministic. Civs with more than one leader for a certain era have more involved conditions there. Certain leaders are also associated with civics (Hitler appears only with fascism for example, Stalin when you're not in a monarchy etc.). This system could be easily expanded to include further leaderheads to show up under special conditions, so if you have any ideas (and the leader exists in the database), I'll see what I can do. Leaders shouldn't change to often, though.

 

[Leoreth]

Do you think the Young Turks would qualify as fascist/authoritarian Turkey? I'm not sure if that's taking things a bit too far.

 

[IrishDragon]

There's Jefferson Davis for a Confederate States of America
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10314

I think it would be good if we could get leaderheads for civs when they vassalize, they seem to be in short supply though.

The only one I could find was this, for New Spain
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11545

There's also Selucus and Ptolemy leaderheads that could possibly be used for Persian and Egyptian vassals of Greece, hard to find any others though, unless they're included within mods

 

[iOnlySignIn]

I've included many of the suggestions in a recent commit. I settled for "New World Order" for fascist America; when I made that change I realized that my current name for it was "Empire of Columbia" which is pretty cool, too, so I used it for monarchist America.

Hell YEAH!!!

Here's the George. W. Bush leaderhead for the "New World Order":

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10078

Aggressive/Protective. Favorite Civic: Police State (Authoritarian). XD XD XD

 

[kieranjtaylor]

i have no idea if he is in the database but as England republic/theocracy can only be Lord Protector of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland Oliver Cromwell. Britain's very own Napoleon very much under played in British History but shaped this country many times more than Churchill.

 

[stemcnally2000]

and indeed shaped the world! Im glad there's a big statue of him outside Parliament, shame about the fundamentalism tho...

 

[kieranjtaylor]

titans of world history generally walk rigidly forward with dead bodies behind them. Cromwell no different.

he can kill as many kings as he likes but never forgive the banning of football

 

[Leoreth]

Hell YEAH!!!

Here's the George. W. Bush leaderhead for the "New World Order":

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10078

Aggressive/Protective. Favorite Civic: Police State (Authoritarian). XD XD XD

Haha, I think I'd rather stick to history (and I want to avoid too modern leaders to avoid political conflict, nothing is worse than having people fight over who deserves to be a LH here).

i have no idea if he is in the database but as England republic/theocracy can only be Lord Protector of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland Oliver Cromwell. Britain's very own Napoleon very much under played in British History but shaped this country many times more than Churchill.

He is! Cromwell and Davis were my first ideas when I implemented this feature. Of course I'll have to see the LHs in game to see that they don't glitch else they'll be in.

 

[Alexius08]

Haha, I think I'd rather stick to history (and I want to avoid too modern leaders to avoid political conflict, nothing is worse than having people fight over who deserves to be a LH here).

For how many years should the leader be dead in order to be added?

 

[Leoreth]

I don't want to make a hard rule out of it. Since Churchill, Stalin and de Gaulle already set some kind of precedent, I'd say right after WW2 is still okay.

 

[Bair_the_Normal]

If possible, if the capital of Phoenicia is Carthage, could you change the "Lebanese" names to "Tunisian" ones, i.e. using Tunisia rather than Lebanon? Because I just checked the name list and it doesn't seem to cover that. If it does, then disregard this. Thanks in advance.

 

[Leoreth]

No, it doesn't at the moment. The vassal names in general are not that situation-sensitive right now.

 

[mechaerik]

You should use Cobra Commander for the fascist USA.

EDIT: Or Big Brother.

Too bad there is no Eugene V. Debs LH.

 

[strijder20]

Maybe you could rename the Incas to 'Kingdom of -Capital name-' instead of 'Kingdom of Cuzco' after losing their capital.

 

[SultanRedSnake]

RE: Young Turks. I had thought of the same thing, Leoreth. (The official term would be Committee for Union and Progress). They were also just a faction within the still-existing Ottoman Empire, so the addition would be less for history and more for variety, although I think it might look a bit silly on screen.

 

[Beornhard]

When Portugal loses Lisbon (which they often do), and if they have colonized Brazil by that time, the civ's name could change to "Kingdom of Brazil", "Empire of Brazil", etc.

It would also be better if the capital moved to Brazil and not to the Azores, but I don't now it that's feasible.

 

[Qiu]

In case of Portugal escaping to Brazil, should its name be "United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves" ? That is a historical official name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_of_Portugal,_Brazil_and_the_Algarves

 

[Beornhard]

In case of Portugal escaping to Brazil, should its name be "United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves" ? That is a historical official name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_of_Portugal,_Brazil_and_the_Algarves

Maybe. But as long as Lisbon is occupied, it's as if the civ had lost mainland Portugal, so it wouldn't be accurate. Perhaps that name could be used in a situation analogous to the historical one, when Lisbon is retaken after the capital was moved elsewhere (and as long as they have Monarchy/Dynasticism of course).

 

[Leoreth]

RE: Young Turks. I had thought of the same thing, Leoreth. (The official term would be Committee for Union and Progress). They were also just a faction within the still-existing Ottoman Empire, so the addition would be less for history and more for variety, although I think it might look a bit silly on screen.

Yeah, that's the name I had in mind, too. I agree it's stretched which is why I also wasn't sure about it, but several other fascist/authoritarian names use internal factions rather than official country names anyway.

In case of Portugal escaping to Brazil, should its name be "United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves" ? That is a historical official name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_of_Portugal,_Brazil_and_the_Algarves

That's a pretty long name so it might mess up the interface.

Maybe. But as long as Lisbon is occupied, it's as if the civ had lost mainland Portugal, so it wouldn't be accurate. Perhaps that name could be used in a situation analogous to the historical one, when Lisbon is retaken after the capital was moved elsewhere (and as long as they have Monarchy/Dynasticism of course).

I already have a mechanic that moves the capital back to the starting location if it's retaken in my working copy, but I can't commit it right now because there's another large change that needs to be completed.

 

[Qiu]

That's a pretty long name so it might mess up.

Agreed. Thoug maybe the ideology of "United Portugal and Brazil" could be utilised, I think.