Well Saudi Arabia does seem like it's going to be a fair-weather friend.
Tancredo: If attacked, bomb Mecca!
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useless
Social Justice Rogue
funny how most terriost's are from saudi.. and saudi arabia only ACTS as a friend.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
You don't think that the loss of Islam's holiest sites would hurt them? Millions of people make the trip to Mecca every year. They conduct prayer, facing that direction. However, as I said, I would strike Medina first. You then follow that up with an broadcast stating that any further attacks on us, on such a large scale, will result in the destruction of Mecca, next.
I think that the logic, for Tom, is that if we threaten to destroy Mecca then there will be many Muslims who will turn in anybody plotting to use WMD against the US, if they ever even try that.
In my case, I am more of a guy that says...
If we are attacked with WMD and suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties, then I'm sorry for the innocent, but there is a cancer in this world and it resides within the religion of Islam and to protect the citizens of the United States of America, I would take the following steps.
1) Destroy the City of Medina, as a result of the first WMD attack upon the US.
2) Destroy the City of Mecca, as a result of a second WMD attack upon the US.
3) Form a stronger alliance with Israel and, perhaps, destroy the Dome of the Rock, in Jerusalem and all other Muslim places of worship that we have access to.
4) Block entry into the United States for all Muslims, Arabs, Persians, and other ethnicities that are dominated by Islam, whether the entrant is openly Muslim or not.
5) Confine all US Muslims, somehow, and begin deporting them or confining them long-term.
6) Attack Iran and Syria. Bomb portions of Pakistan, where Al-Qaeda resides. Locate and destroy Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. Locate and destroy the source of any WMDs that were used against us.
7) If the UN stands in our way, deport it from our shores and leave the organization.
8) If the Arab Republic of France stands in our way, flip them off as we fly by on our bombing missions to the Mid East.
No, man. Fudge that fudging crap! If we're attacked with nukes, bioweapons, or chem-weapons, then the time to hesitate is through. If we start losing Americans, a hundred thousand at a time, then YES, I am willing to commit genocide against Muslims to prevent the genocide of Americans.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
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Why do you think they wouldn't reason the same way you do? When you are attacked, you impulse response is: destroy em all! Why do you think that when you attack them their impulse will be: Oh Shoot! Better turn in those who warned us they would attack us?
John, and what about when Isreal stands in our way, because we'd be destabilizing the entire region?
I still don't see why you blame the actions of a few on an entire populace and religion. Yes, Islam does have its own significant problems, and yes, a lot of people in the Arab world do hate us, but destroying things they hold dear is not going to make the world a better or safer place. Do you also think we should round up all the American citizens who are Muslim and send them off to gas chambers to be killed as part of your final solution?
I still don't see why you blame the actions of a few on an entire populace and religion. Yes, Islam does have its own significant problems, and yes, a lot of people in the Arab world do hate us, but destroying things they hold dear is not going to make the world a better or safer place. Do you also think we should round up all the American citizens who are Muslim and send them off to gas chambers to be killed as part of your final solution?
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Apparently they already do have that thought if they are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans at a time.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Israel may not join us, but they won't stand in our way. They won't have much of a choice though. They'd have to join us and what I said with regard to them was moreso, because we'd owe it to them for what we'd done. The entire Muslim world will be in an uproar and we'd have to unite and defeat them.
Also, that was a pathetic attempt and trying to compare me to Hitler. The Jews didn't nuke Munich to spark the "Final Solution". Kudos, anyway, you are a truly learned one at the art of internet forum debate, Mr. Chamberlain.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
No. Not the people you expect to turn in those who plot against the US.
Just a hypothetical situation: Al Quaeda nukes New York, and threatens to nuke D.C. or LA, Chicaco, or whatever if you don't pull all your forced from the middle east. What would you do? Say: all right, I give up, just don't hurt us? I think that highly unlikely...and it would be the same for the muslims
edit: oh shoot: ziggy has already gone there
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Just a hypothetical situation: Al Quaeda nukes New York, and threatens to nuke D.C. or LA, Chicaco, or whatever if you don't pull all your forced from the middle east. What would you do? Say: all right, I give up, just don't hurt us? I think that highly unlikely...and it would be the same for the muslims
edit: oh shoot: ziggy has already gone there
I would immediately destroy Medina and announce that any follow-up nuclear (WMD) attack on the US would result in the destruction of Mecca. I thought I had already covered this. If they go forth and destroy another city, then I would go forth and destroy Islam. Believe me, I don't want it to come to this, but if that is what is going to stop our people from being wiped out, then so be it. I will make that decision. Deep down, in your heart of hearts, you know that the majority of Americans will be right behind me, and probably some of you, too. Well, not The Yankee, he'd be dead.
Murky
Deity
Were do people get they idea that terrorist are planning to kill mass numbers of civilians? They don't have that capability. They are like barbarians in civilization. They are an annoyance at most. They aren't nearly as big a threat as are other nations that actually do have the means to wipe out entire cities.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
At least for the moment, I would agree with that.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
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They might hate us, but never underestimate the willingness of people to do what is in their own best interest, even if that interest coincides with ours.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
So, if terrorists would threaten to briefcase-nuke New York if the troops aren't pulled out of Iraq, you would want the troop being pulled out of Iraq?
After all, it is in your best intrest not to have New York nuked.
that's what I thought, so what makes you think the muslim world will react differently to the destruction of Medina and threat to destroy Mecca?
anyway, I just hope that nobody with your mindset ever reaches power in the US (or any other powerful state).
that's what I thought, so what makes you think the muslim world will react differently to the destruction of Medina and threat to destroy Mecca?
I am not sure he thinks they will. Remember, he is advocating genocide!
I am not really sure that nuking Mecca and Medina can be considered genocide, though. Mass murder, perhaps, but that is not technically the same thing.
I'm waiting for a Saudi official to say "if the US nukes Mecca and Medina, we'll wipe Tel Aviv and Haifa off the map."
