Teleportation

But physical phenomena obey mathematics. So both are related in some way.
 
That is a long discussion. Imo math are tied to some mental parameters and balances, and it is not that math are the language of the world but that humans only have that language so cannot but use it.
 
Ha! It's only destroyed 'before' if we're thinking that there's an objective time reference

The operations you need to do at the receiving end cannot be performed instantaneously but need some local time. This means that even in the relativistic sense it is strictly destroyed before.
 
Yeah, it gets fuzzy. I don't see any specific piece of information being destroyed. But if Consciousness is an epiphenomenon, the Consciousness would get destroyed while the information is moving
 
I think that some kind of human-machine link will become possible, in regards to partial transfer of consciousness to a computer environment. Maybe it would still have to tie to matter, but not an entire body or even an entire brain- and i suppose it will be easier to maintain that achilles heal rather than fight ageing in a whole body.
 
That would mean death for sure.
 
Imo survival can be sustained, but given human dna (and apparently also a part of mental organisation) is tied to genetic urges not to be fullfilled if you are in a computer environment, arrangements will have to be made. Maybe in practice those will never quite end being an issue.
 
I guess living in a computer environment they will have access to vr porn videos in ultra-mega-high definition and HDR, so not problem there.
 
Porn wont be of use if you dont have gennitals anymore :o
A bit like a legless person having still the urge and mental know-how to walk.
Yep, but at the end everything is in the head (the upper one i mean :mischief: ) so, that could be simulated too, as anything else.
 
I think it will end up being more of a riddle than a pay-off, given the biological elements wont be there. Maybe something like a perplexed and frustrated awe at a part-urge (only the mental part) which has no clear object.
So basically all would become fernando pessoa. :P
 
I think that some kind of human-machine link will become possible, in regards to partial transfer of consciousness to a computer environment. Maybe it would still have to tie to matter, but not an entire body or even an entire brain- and i suppose it will be easier to maintain that achilles heal rather than fight ageing in a whole body.

A computer environment is made of matter, though? I don't know anyone who thinks that you can iteratively dissociate the consciousness from a substrate running the consciousness.

Anyway, the idea of 'which is harder to do' is a function of current technological capacity. In the future, it might be easier to maintain a constantly running piece of software on ever-improving circuits. But, right now, medical advances can improve the quality of life of people we know are going to suffer deterioration.
 
The question of whether you require biological matter is unknown. There are experiments that will use biological matter to increase neuronal substrate and consciousness. And there will be experiments that will use circuits to do so. And then we'll see if consciousness is able to migrate through non-biological substrate. I'm not a dualist, I don't believe in some essence that requires liquid biologics. But, that said, we don't have a good model for consciousness anyway. The people who're going to find it are the people who're funded to look for it.
 
I dont think the effect (consciousness) will be modelled, which is why bio matter will be needed to cause it by itself. After that the ai may be used, including so as to translate the effect to code or similar, directly or not.
To be brief, imo consciousness exists due to the need to seperate bio-induced sense from linear result of bio-induced urge: you can't go from a to b if instead what you sense is a set not including a or b.
 
That would mean death for sure.
I think if you start plugging hardware into the brain to give it additional abilities, and then begin shifting more and more of your consciousness onto that new hardware, this can be done in a way that you are maintained as a single, distinct entity throughout the process. The body would die eventually but you don't because at that point the body is just another piece of hardware that your consciousness runs on - and not even the central piece.
 
However a terrible doubt would always exist: It may be that at some point of the transference, while changing the key part of the brain where the "soul" reside, the original consciousness would die being replaced by a new identical consciousness. Since there is not way to know if it indeed happened, such process would always be like a jump into the void.
 
For sure it would be a risk. I judge it to be less risky than quantum-level deconstruction and teleportation but point taken.
 
Yeah, measuring the subjective sense of self will always a little scary. But you can use similar logic to be afraid of falling asleep each night.
But the future will be dominated by those willing to take the chance
 
That or they will be all dead. :assimilate:
 
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