Ten Steps to End Jihad Against the West

[gay_Aleks]

A couple of days ago I asked what a clash of civilizations would ultimately look like. I guess this is it.

Although it is more a clash of uncivilization.

It looks like the clash of civilizations will look like an explosion brighter than a thousand suns?

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

It looks like the clash of civilizations will look like an explosion brighter than a thousand suns?

When two or more progressive forces meet does it mean a regress?

 

[Borachio]

From the OP link:

Just as we do not and should not hold all Jews and Christians legally or politically responsible for assaults or murders committed in accordance with their religious scriptures, so we should not hold all Muslims legally or politically responsible for assaults or murders committed in accordance with theirs.

I'm no expert in Judaism, but what murders "committed in accordance" with Christianity does the author have in mind here?

We must also recognize that although rights are inalienable (meaning they cannot be taken away), they are not unrelinquishable. One can relinquish or forfeit one’s rights by violating the rights of others. If a person, group, or regime engages in murder or terrorism, or aids in such activities, or incites others to engage in such activities, he or it thereby forfeits his or its rights entirely.

Jihadists and their supporters have no rights. They are, by their own chosen actions, right-less animals. Thus, when we kill them in retaliation, we do not violate their rights. We cannot violate that which does not exist.

Well. What can one say? Jihadists are, apparently, "right-less animals".

I must say the whole tone of the article is outrageously facile and really quite objectionable. Imo.

 

[Leoreth]

It looks like the clash of civilizations will look like an explosion brighter than a thousand suns?

When two or more progressive forces meet does it mean a regress?

Progressive? Colonel wants to meet barbarism with barbarism.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Progressive? Colonel wants to meet barbarism with barbarism.

Like you said. Its uncivilised. But Tolni asked about clash of civilisations which is likely to bring some destruction as well. Let just hope its going to be the destruction of stupidity and unprogressive elements within the respective civs.

 

[Borachio]

https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2015/11/ten-steps-to-end-jihad-against-the-west/

Craig Biddle is the editor of The Objective Standard and the author of Loving Life: The Morality of Self-Interest and the Facts that Support It, a highly concretized, systematic introduction to Ayn Rand’s ethics. His forthcoming book, Thinking in Principles: The Science of Selfishness, is about how most effectively to use one’s mind in the service of one’s life, liberty, and happiness.

Oh right.

Forget I said anything, then.

 

[Leoreth]

Like you said. Its uncivilised. But Tolni asked about clash of civilisations which is likely to bring some destruction as well. Let just hope its going to be the destruction of stupidity and unprogressive elements within the respective civs.

Oh, I misunderstood you then, sorry.

 

[Arwon]

Not sure where else to drop this but:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html

"After every terrorist attack at home and abroad, the refrain rises, "Where is the Muslim condemnation?" American Muslims have spoken out -- and done much more. A Duke University study found more terrorism suspects and perpetrators were brought to the attention of law enforcement by members of the Muslim-American community than were discovered through U.S. government investigations."

Worth remembering before systematically alienating them all.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Hillarious! How is Christianity better then Islam? The Bible:


Link to video.

My source tells me that there are 532 violent and cruel excerpts in the Koran while there are 1318 in the Bible! Now good luck in judging others...

 

[Borachio]

Worth remembering before systematically alienating them all.

Indeed.

However, I think I've hit on a full-proof way of foiling all future jihadist attacks.

Notice first that all jihadists have beards, so the solution should now be obvious: everyone who isn't a jihadist should shave their beards off.

Alternatively, if shaving your beard off is just one step too far, how about dying it sky-blue? I've noticed that jihadists don't feature blue as a beard colour at all.

As for female jihadists, just substitute "niqab" for "beard" and we're nearly done. And if you really feel you can't abandon the niqab, then a sky-blue one should do in the meantime.

I honestly can't see why this solution hasn't occurred to the powers that be already. I suspect they must have been sleeping on the job.

edit: Oh, I seem to have missed out the final step: everyone with a beard which is non-blue, and everyone wearing a non-blue niqab (providing they're equipped with beards and/or niqabs at all, that is) is immediately suspect and can be rounded up with a large butterfly net. And given a sound talking-to until they adopt the blue-beard, and/or niqab. And abandon their jihadist ways.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

@Borachio: and how is that not going alienate people?

 

[Borachio]

How is what not going to alienate people? The sky-blue beards, the sky-blue niqabs, the shaving of the beards, the not wearing of the niqabs, the chasing people down with the large butterfly net, or the giving them the sound talking-to?

To be honest, I don't see how any of that could offend anyone.

And if I were a jihadist, I'd be grateful for any attention I could get. Sky-blue beard, or no.

But in any case, it certainly beats hunting them down like the "no-rights animals" that they are believed to be by a great number of people.

 

[Evie]

Technically, I think catching things in butterly nets is a method reserved for no-rights animals...

Unless we gave civil rights to butterflies without me noticing...

 

[illram]

The author's opinion is in line with the propensity for American Christians to be way more favorable of military attacks on civilians than American Muslims.

Muslim Americans are also far less likely to favor violence against civilians to further political goals.

Look at those dirty, violent Atheists! Shame....shame....shame... *ding a ling*

Gallup poll

 

[Ryika]

The author's opinion is in line with the propensity for American Christians to be way more favorable of military attacks on civilians than American Muslims.

Well, d'uh, given that most civilian casualties of the Military would probably be Muslims I find this hardly surprising.

 

[Borachio]

I suggest that the reluctance of Muslims to favour military action against civilians may be the product of their experience of being civilian victims of military action. Or seeing other Muslims being victims of military action.

edit: ^ Oh look: someone else has simultaneously had the same idea as me. That's very curious.

 

[illram]

So you guys are saying then that Muslims believe this because their opinions are more accurately grounded in reality, as opposed to the fantasy reality most Americans live in with regards to war and violence?

More reason to listen to them, then.

 

[Ryika]

So you guys are saying then that Muslims believe this because their opinions are more accurately grounded in reality, as opposed to the fantasy reality most Americans live in with regards to war and violence?

I am suggesting that some Muslims may be more prone to saying that collateral damage may be okay because they identify more with the people who would mainly suffer that collateral damage than the average person.

More reason to listen to them, then.

We should listen to people who are emotionally invested over people who have a neutral point of view?

 

[JollyRoger]

We are at war, but look at those nutty people that answer polls in a way that acknowledge that we may at war with them.

 

[illram]

How the hell do Christians have a more "neutral" point of view when the whole stupid theory in the OP is that Christianity (wait excuse me, "the west" ) is at war with Islam?

"Islam is a violent religion and Muslims are more prone to violence!"

"No, [facts]."

"Well they're biased!"