Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by AaronTBD, Nov 2, 2020.
We're talking the other Tupac Amaru, here - Tupac Amaru II, in the 1700s.
I think the better question is why isn't he Ancient?
...That makes a lot more sense.
Heck, something that could've been done with Imhotep is to make him an exclusive engineer that Egypt either starts the game with or earns for free very early on (Masonry?), basically giving them a free early wonder of their choice, sort of like how GC have their free Comandantes.
To be fair, maybe in the future, we should get Great Engineer Points earlier - there are many great builders and planners in Ancient and Classical Era, and it's not like large scale, complicated "industrial" production didn't exist before Medieval Era (the ship building industry in Classical Mediterranean, for example).
That would pair well with another Egyptian leader like Djoser.
Thanks Bhousesofelixir, forgot about that. But it does beg the question of why no Classical Great Engineers, especially when they are actually from that era IRL.
I'd like to propose three new Great Generals:
Passive Effect: All of your military units get -2 movement
Retire Ability: Target fortified enemy unit is dealt 10 damage. All of your adjacent units are destroyed.
Retire Ability: Activate in your own capital, transfers it to target Civilization you are at war with triggering peace treaty
Oof. Savage but true.
Passive Effect: Your units get -20 strength against barbarians.
Passive Ability: Whenever one of you units becomes fully fortified, it is destroyed.
Retire Ability: Activate in a city of population if an enemy unit of half or less strength is adjacent to garrison. City transfers to owner of that unit.
You're the one bringing that up then proceed to be annoyed at an imagined threat which only you brought up.
How's asking for a female scientist not to have a male icon "identity politics" ?!?
Imhotep should be ancient era. Have some of the ancient/classical wonders give engineer points or just have him available to buy via faith.
Imhotep = In my humble opinion: this, engineering person
Helmuth Von Moltke and Robert. E. Lee are from places overrepresented by Great People, it's pretty nice to have Great People who run away from the usual European/American that everyone is tired of seing everywhere.
Tupac Amaru II is a very pleasant choice, and I don't see him as obscure. He led an important anti-colonial rebellion in Peru.
Dandara was a warrior heroine who domineted the techniques of capoieira, the fact of being a woman makes her even more pleasant, and I also don't see her as that obscure. Warrior monk in the industrial age, however, is quite useless.
LOL, what country does Robert E. Lee cover that isn't already covered by the GP roster? The CSA?
I mean, we already have southerners on the roster... Breedlove, Joplin, MacArthur, Nimitz, etc., so the former CSA is "covered" already too.
It's the modern wokery - it gets everywhere these days.
I think there are real examples of "modern wokery", but this isn't one of them, pal.
Having also Le Corbusier, Frank Lloyd Wright or Mies van der Rohe would be cool, maybe even Rogelio Salmona or Oscar Niemeyer
I just want literally everything Frank Lloyd Wright ever designed as wonders in the game. Unfortunately, I suspect most if not all of his work is under copyright. (Alas, confirmed.)
Corbusier is a really interesting figure for me; I've taught a bit on the [failed?] dream of high modern cities, pulling from Corbusier himself but also anthropologists like James Holston, looking at Corbusier-inspired cities such as Brasilia. Unfortunately as @Zaarin mentioned with recent architects copyright becomes an issue. However, if you're into Corbusier, check out Kenzo Tange in the Babylon pack. Tange took Corbusier's modernist (each space has a function and is rationally situated to maximize that function) and often brutalist (heavy use of unadorned concrete) aesthetic and combined it with organic elements. Here's his cathedral in downtown Tokyo.
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