The all new, totally accepted, bigotry thread - "Blame a Christian"

Formaldehyde said:
Not to mention they are hardly "bigoted" views. Criticizing religion is not bigotry unless one does so for irrational reasons.
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I thought it was just termed hate speach these days?
 
You can hear the hatred simply oozing from Richard Dawkin's voice as he harshly accosts Bill O'Reilly for his erudite "tide goes in, tide goes out" argument that "it had to get there".


Link to video.

The only emotionalism and irrationality I perceive there didn't come from Dawkins...


Link to video.
 
timtofly said:
I thought it was just termed hate speach these days?
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Is saying "you believe in something that can't be proven, so don't try and hold people to it" hate speech? Because that's really as far as I think of religions, and I'm fairly blunt when it comes to religions effects on interaction.
 
hate the delusion love the human



actually I'm waiting for the day a religion says "your human, come in and fully share , thats all we need to Know"
 
I have nothing personally against Christians, but I wish they would be a bit less flamboyant regarding public displays of their lifestyle choices, especially when children may be exposed to such displays.
 
Speaking of which, Jesus Camp officially closed after the documentary was released.


Link to video.


Link to video.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp

Michael Smith of the Tulsa World gave the film three stars out of four, describing it as "impressive in its even-handed presentation", "straightforward" and "a revealing, unabashed look at the formation of tomorrow's army of God."

The Chicago Tribune reviewer Jessica Reaves also gave the film three stars out of four and writes that Jesus Camp is "an enlightening and frank look at what the force known as Evangelical America believes, preaches and teaches their children" and concludes that what the filmmakers "have accomplished here is remarkable—capturing the visceral humanity, desire and unflagging political will of a religious movement."[10]

David Edelstein of CBS Sunday Morning, New York, and NPR finds Jesus Camp "a frightening, infuriating, yet profoundly compassionate documentary about the indoctrination of children by the Evangelical right."[11]

Some reviewers responded negatively to the film; Rob Nelson of the Village Voice called the movie "[an] absurdly hypocritical critique of the far right's role in the escalating culture war",[12] and J.R. Jones of the Chicago Reader criticized the film for "failing to distinguish the more fundamentalist Pentecostals" and for inserting "unnecessary editorializing" by using clips from Mike Papantonio's radio show.[13]

Jesus Camp was nominated for Best Documentary Feature at the 79th Academy Awards;[3] it lost to Davis Guggenheim and Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth.
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Jesus Camp Shuts Down Due to Negative Response

The controversial Jesus Camp in the US has shut down after a documentary film which featured events of children praying in tongues and sobbing with repentance in the camp met with a negative response.

Camp director Becky Fischer commented to Christianity Today: "Christians go after me because of doctrinal issues, whereas the world is going after me because they think I'm another Adolf Hitler."

She added: "They're accusing me of raising a Christian jihad."

The documentary "Jesus Camp" was launched last September, featuring kids worshipping at Bible camps and youth events in the US.

But the film has caused a scare to some audiences for its raw depiction of white evangelical children being 'radically trained' to lay down their lives for the gospel.

Many condemned Fischer, accusing her of 'manipulating' or 'brainwashing' children.

The film features kids shouting out for forgiveness and sobbing over social issues such as abortion and war. "Air America" radio host Mike Papantonio is among many who disagree with the tactics used at the camp.

"I think when you look at what occurs in the camp, there is a use of guilt. There is a use of shame," Papantonio said. "That is not directed all at Becky. I mean, what is a 5-year-old capable in ways of sin? Maybe stealing an Oreo from a cookie jar."
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JollyRoger said:
I have nothing personally against Christians, but I wish they would be a bit less flamboyant regarding public displays of their lifestyle choices, especially when children may be exposed to such displays.
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Yeah, true. I don't even really mind public displays of Christianity. I just wish they'd be more respectful of their potential influence on children. Sometimes I think they're deliberately trying to get kids to "become Christians" too, and that's why they're trying to get acceptance for their lifestyles, and why they're always designing literature for children, etc.
 
"Hello kids, welcome to bible class!"
*cheers*
"Hands up if you are a first born!"
*hands*
"Well children, let me tell you about a man named Moses"

<Some time later>

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Whiskey_Lord said:
I seriously doubt you've ever read one of Darwin's works, or any peer-reviewed work on biology for that matter.
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What it have to do with the reply Celtic wrote?
 
CELTICEMPIRE said:
To make myself clear by anti-Christian authors I mean Marx, Neitsche, Dawkins, and other people who make up ridiculous lies about the religion, and claim that it creates oppression.

Darwin, even though I can't stand his writings, is not an ant-Christian writer.
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I don't think that either Neitzsche or Marx claimed that Christianity "creates oppression"- it would be entirely contrary to their respective ontologies to attribute it any independent powers whatsoever. Instead, Marx argued that organised religion offered a rationale for political and social oppression- hardly an exceptional claim- while Neitzsche's concern was simply that Christians were engaged in self-repression, holding themselves back from their full potential. I don't get the impression that you really know much about either of these men, let alone having read them yourself.

Dawkins, that's fair enough, but he's an idiot. However competent he is as a biologist, he shouldn't be mentioned alongside atheist philosophers of any actual merit.
 
Hey guys, you don't have a right to not be offended.

Suck it up - if you honestly believe that all you believe is true then you shouldn't even give a crap.

The worst that will ever happen to you is mockery and you don't have a right to not be mocked either.
 
The thing is, I'd be almost prepared to forgive these people if they were actually born that way, and couldn't really help it.

The thing is though - it has to be said - that the Christian lifestyle is usually a choice...
 
Dear fellow non-Christians,

when will we let the cat out of the bag on the fact that every single group in society is mocked, bashed, blamed for all kinds of stuff? When will we reveal they're nothing special? Should we explain that being mocked yourself always has more impact and always feels more important than when other people are.

Myself, I don't think they're ready yet, except for those guys who are. But they don't need to be told. They already know.
 
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