The all new, totally accepted, bigotry thread - "Blame a Christian"

[Mechanicalsalvation]

I have no problem with any religion. I try to appreciate its good sides and see where its flawed. But my problem start when followers of any religion claim that their religion is the only true one.
Unless we honestly feel that our own religion or our chosen life path is best for us but in no way the only one we are fools living in absurd drama.

 

[Ayn Rand]

Dear fellow non-Christians,

when will we let the cat out of the bag on the fact that every single group in society is mocked, bashed, blamed for all kinds of stuff? When will we reveal they're nothing special? Should we explain that being mocked yourself always has more impact and always feels more important than when other people are.

Myself, I don't think they're ready yet, except for those guys who are. But they don't need to be told. They already know.

I dunno, it seems kind of selective to me. The same people who say it's ok to bash christians get their panties in a twist when it's African-Americans or muslims. So where's the consistency?

 

[Traitorfish]

The consistency is not being a horrible person.

 

[Leoreth]

Dawkins, that's fair enough, but he's an idiot. However competent he is as a biologist, he shouldn't be mentioned alongside atheist philosophers of any actual merit.

True. For example, I don't think he "owned" O'Reilly at all in the interview linked above. I know the "let's exchange one-liners for two minutes" format doesn't really allow for a reasonable discussion anyway (which plays right into O'Reilly's hands), but considering the weakness of O'Reilly's "arguments", he really didn't do well. Claiming intellectual superiority doesn't help, either.

 

[Ayn Rand]

The consistency is not being a horrible person.

Because Christians aren't real human beings so they don't count! inorite!!

 

[Core Imposter]

I certainly support the question, having had control of so much for so long, Christians have largely failed to secure for civilization a reasonable grip of the riff and raff of society. Why?

Its makes me uneasy as a Christian to consider our failure over the last three decades to keep a lid on the bubbling caudron of blasphemy and debauchery now so ubiquitous in our societies.

We are the blame.

Sidetracked in the Church by the comforts of modern living and benumbed by the consequence dodging policys of forward purchasing governments and central banks schemers, we have fallen prey to largely the same lies as the broader commons, by the same ancient liar who should not be named.

Christians must crack the whip. It is time to restore order and ensure that sinners once again feel the consequences of their works.

The sinner cannot be pardoned lest he is convicted, the prisoner can not be freed until he is cast into the pit.

It is our blame. It is our duty. We will do it.

 

[civver_764]

Dawkins, that's fair enough, but he's an idiot. However competent he is as a biologist, he shouldn't be mentioned alongside atheist philosophers of any actual merit.

How is he an idiot? He's not the most novel public figure ever, but most of the stuff he says is correct(that I've heard/read).

 

[warpus]

I certainly support the question, having had control of so much for so long, Christians have largely failed to secure for civilization a reasonable grip of the riff and raff of society. Why?

Its makes me uneasy as a Christian to consider our failure over the last three decades to keep a lid on the bubbling caudron of blasphemy and debauchery now so ubiquitous in our societies.

We are the blame.

Sidetracked in the Church by the comforts of modern living and benumbed by the consequence dodging policys of forward purchasing governments and central banks schemers, we have fallen prey to largely the same lies as the broader commons, by the same ancient liar who should not be named.

Christians must crack the whip. It is time to restore order and ensure that sinners once again feel the consequences of their works.

The sinner cannot be pardoned lest he is convicted, the prisoner can not be freed until he is cast into the pit.

It is our blame. It is our duty. We will do it.

"Mind your own business" is a response I'll give to this.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

I certainly support the question, having had control of so much for so long, Christians have largely failed to secure for civilization a reasonable grip of the riff and raff of society. Why?

Its makes me uneasy as a Christian to consider our failure over the last three decades to keep a lid on the bubbling caudron of blasphemy and debauchery now so ubiquitous in our societies.

We are the blame.

Sidetracked in the Church by the comforts of modern living and benumbed by the consequence dodging policys of forward purchasing governments and central banks schemers, we have fallen prey to largely the same lies as the broader commons, by the same ancient liar who should not be named.

Christians must crack the whip. It is time to restore order and ensure that sinners once again feel the consequences of their works.

The sinner cannot be pardoned lest he is convicted, the prisoner can not be freed until he is cast into the pit.

It is our blame. It is our duty. We will do it.

Hmm...nope.

 

[Core Imposter]

I have no problem with any religion. I try to appreciate its good sides and see where its flawed. But my problem start when followers of any religion claim that their religion is the only true one.

What is a religion worth unless it is true? Nothing, it would be just another human conceit.

There is but one God and Christ is risen.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

What is a religion worth unless it is true? Nothing, it would be just another human conceit.

There is but one God and Christ is risen.

Bring me the bowl of pudding.

 

[GhostWriter16]

What is a religion worth unless it is true? Nothing, it would be just another human conceit.

There is but one God and Christ is risen.

Amen brother!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh sweet irony.

 

[Crezth]

What is a religion worth unless it is true? Nothing, it would be just another human conceit.

There is but one God and Christ is risen.

Cognitive dissonance, ladies and gentlemen, let's give him a big hand!

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

I honestly can't believe this thread's still going on. It's pathetic.

 

[Traitorfish]

How is he an idiot? He's not the most novel public figure ever, but most of the stuff he says is correct(that I've heard/read).

His philosophical framework is a messy pottage of vulgar empiricism and unacknowledged idealism strung together in an extremely haphazard way, supporting a series of trite and uninteresting conclusions. He may be right about this, that or the other thing, but as philosophers of atheism go, he, well, isn't.

There is but one God and Christ is risen.

Nah, God is dead, and we killed him.

 

[Leoreth]

Christians must crack the whip. It is time to restore order and ensure that sinners once again feel the consequences of their works.

The sinner cannot be pardoned lest he is convicted, the prisoner can not be freed until he is cast into the pit.

It is our blame. It is our duty. We will do it.

You know, it's posts like this one that make me suspect you're a mastermind parodist in disguise.

 

[civver_764]

I stopped taking him seriously altogether when he said he's been to prison several times.

His philosophical framework is a messy pottage of vulgar empiricism and unacknowledged idealism strung together in an extremely haphazard way, supporting a series of trite and uninteresting conclusions. He may be right about this, that or the other thing, but as philosophers of atheism go, he, well, isn't.

Lots of people don't have any new interesting conclusions for the world. You don't need to have a revolutionary philosophy to not be an idiot.

 

[peter grimes]

His philosophical framework is a messy pottage of vulgar empiricism and unacknowledged idealism strung together in an extremely haphazard way, supporting a series of trite and uninteresting conclusions. He may be right about this, that or the other thing, but as philosophers of atheism go, he, well, isn't.


Nah, God is dead, and we killed him.

I don't think he claims to be a 'philosopher of atheism', but simply a communicator, or perhaps popularizer of atheism.

I haven't read any philosophy ever (despite holding a degree in Classics ), so it's possible that God Delusion reads as philosophy to those in the know... but I certainly didn't see it as such.

And to the Christians:
I'll not think your views are congitively dissonant when you live the way your mythical christ commands. And you might do that already - I certainly don't have any way of knowing.

But I do have someone I can compare you to. My cousin and his wife are the only honest and consistent Christians I know. They gave up a semi-comfortable life in Orange County and moved their family to Peru to do charity work. Charity work that is geared towards economic empowerment of women and literacy. Charity work that is unaffilliated with evangelism. It is charity work for the sake of charity work.

I'm not saying that everyone has to do this, but this family does indeed live the life I imagine mythical Jesus would advocate were he real.

 

[Traitorfish]

Lots of people don't have any new interesting conclusions for the world. You don't need to have a revolutionary philosophy to not be an idiot.

It's not simply that his conclusions aren't novel, but that they're crude and insubstantial. Plato, Descartes and Nietzsche aren't novel, either, but they're still entirely worthy of consideration. Dawkin's failure is that he has nothing to contribute to our understanding of the human experience, just a barely-coherent string of truisms, over-simplifications and gut prejudices.

Edit: Without trying to shift responsibility for my opinions onto somebody else, I'd recommend this as a pretty cutting critique of Dawkins et al.