"The DaVinci Code" actor calls for a disclaimer...

[warpus]

You always talk as if The mircales mentioned are not possible. You make it sound like that there's no way that Moses could have parted the Red Sea and therefore are already disregarding the possibility of divine intervention. There's no proof for any specific God.

All aethiests say their "open-minded" to miracles, I used to be one of them. But in reality, they refuse to even consider that it can happen.

I'd consider it a miracle if I saw somebody actually parting a sea in two or walking on water. A written account of somebody doing it isn't nearly enough to convince me - especially considering how old the written account is.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Reminds me of this:

To be fair, the Bible does allow buying your neighbour's daughter, screwing her, and sending her away if she doesn't please you. It's not all thou shalt not.

 

[ibn sina]

What proof is there that a God would exist (we have no miracles that have been validated just stories so don't bring that up) and how did God then come into existence?
If religion could answer those questions in a satisfying manner then I'd consider religion.

 

[nonconformist]

Take that, denominational Christianity!


Thanks, Mise, your piccy has been promptly stolen!
(Dare I ask its origin?)

 

[Mise]

Thanks, Mise, your piccy has been promptly stolen!
(Dare I ask its origin?)

Someone's userpic (avatar) on livejournal

 

[mrtn]

Yes, there are people. Just read some of the creation vs. evolution threads, or religious vs. athiest threads here.

Or move to my state, Kansas.

And actually, the believe it's 6000 years old. 4004bc, if I remember correctly.

Sunday the 21st of October 4004 BC, 9 am.
So, according to Archbishop James Usher (1580-1656) the Earth is a Libra.

 

[Evie]

And someone's been reading Good Omens :-D

 

[El_Machinae]

You make it sound like that there's no way that Moses could have parted the Red Sea

Even if the Red Sea was parted, it's not proof of the Christian God existing.

It's also evidence for my theory that a supercomputer went back in time, pulled up the Sea with a tractor beam, and let the Israelites cross ... all for its nefarious future purpose.

(and since computer memory is so cheap, I assume this post will be around forever. So, my apologies for insulting any future AIs reading this text)

 

[Masquerouge]

Sunday the 21st of October 4004 BC, 9 am.
So, according to Archbishop James Usher (1580-1656) the Earth is a Libra.

Eh. It's pretty weird that the first day should be October the 21st...

 

[Erik Mesoy]

What proof is there that a God would exist (we have no miracles that have been validated just stories so don't bring that up) and how did God then come into existence?
If religion could answer those questions in a satisfying manner then I'd consider religion.

1. There is not proof that God exists. There is enough evidence to satisfy me. Religions in general do not offer proof but joy. My evidence is anecdotes (which are not the singular of data) such as my command for rain to stop in Jesus' name and my prayers for all to go well. I find that when I will these things, they happen.

2. See Cosmological argument - most demoninations say that God didn't come into existence, but is, was and will be.

"Religion" will not answer your questions.

 

[7ronin]

Have you ever read Dan Brown? He writes like Tom Clancy. Nothing worth getting in a huff over.

Puh-leeze. Tom Clancy is ten times the writer Dan Brown is.

 

[Archbob]

As for others, less suspectible miracles, faced with one that conducted under scientific scrutiny (ha ha ha ha) cannot be explained by science, you have two choices:

- be persistent in trying to find the answer in a scientific manner. If that answer remains hidden, tough luck. If that answer turns out to be supernatural, fair enough.

- close your eyes, turn your intellect off, fall to your knees and cry "Oh LORD, hallowed be thy name, a miracle!!! A miracle!!!"

I find the first approach to be more sensible, and generally more beneficial to humanity in the long run.

However, I do acknowledge that the second approach might make you more money.

But in reality, the 2nd one usually works better. I've been on both sides, the first one hardly ever succeeds.

About Miracle, just because you don't believe that Moses parted the Red Sea does't make it not true(sure, it doesn't make it true either), you can't prove it to be false which puts it in the realm of "it could have happens". In this realm you can choose to have faith or not that the event is true.

However, in the Da Vinci code, many of his so called "facts" have already been proven to be false, therefore faith is not the issue here.

 

[EolTheDarkElf]

But in reality, the 2nd one usually works better.

I think all depends on the definition of "better".

I've been on both sides, the first one hardly ever succeeds.

I'd say if it wasn't for the first one, you'd have no PC to post this.

(not to say progress is thanks to atheists mind you, but it is thanks to people who sought out scientific explanations rather than attribute anything to miracles)

 

[newfangle]

Puh-leeze. Tom Clancy is ten times the writer Dan Brown is.

10 times an infintesimal is not very impressive.

 

[MjM]

People who say Puh-leeze arent very impressive.