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I did not intend any of this. But sometimes it's the only way to reach certain conversations.
The Drunk and After the Party thread and stuff.. 1
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Lexicus
Deity
really? that is interesting...sake to me has a very different taste than grape wine.
yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
what? but they're like completely different? white wine tastes like sour grapes, red wine tastes like grapes and berries and tannins, sake just tastes sweet and somewhat rice-y
incidentally, this weekend my gf took me out to dine in one of the best japanese restaurants I've ever been to and I had a great sake. I love that stuff, ice cold, room temp or warm in a clay pot.
Lexicus
Deity
Piping hot in a little ceramic cup! Not a huge fan of sake but it goes well enough from time to time as a change.
Narz
keeping it real
https://www.smh.com.au/national/alc...fFfOLM0U3StUAvwtrdoeumdChSuTn81xqePXx5mT9cKwg
Too long, didn't click : alcohol is the most dangerous drug tested. We already knew that but people keep testing
Too long, didn't click : alcohol is the most dangerous drug tested. We already knew that but people keep testing
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Narz
keeping it real
Well that's not really the fault of ecstasy. It's the fault of it being illegal and even illegal to give the full results of purity tests. Pure mdma is extremely safe in small amounts and taken infrequently. It's not physically addictive. Its such a beautiful experience (from what I've heard, lol, dont do illegal things, I'm family friendly yall) that you don't want to ruin it w frequent use or high doses.
Not sure what thats about. I can see the non-lethal harm though, alot of $ wasted, relatives, friends and lovers giving up on the pothead.
If society had different attitudes and if people used weed differently (to be creative and collaborate rather than just to escape) it would probably look different.
Probably the mortality is due to car crashes. Still 100fold safer to drive on than booze.
I dont think "too much" lsd every turns anyone into a vegetable. Lsd and psilocybin have no toxicity in the brain iirc
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yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
I know as good as anyone that weed is harmful, but I'm also pretty sure that an overdose of weed has never killed anyone, nor have side-effects. mortality is not the same as being harmful, no?
also, LSD does not need to be "toxic" in order to do irreversible long time damage, it can strengthen pre-existing mental illnesses or even be a source of mental illness itself, and a bad trip can definitely affect your neurological makeup, toxicity being kinda irrelevant for that. i'm aware the substance itself is neither physically addictive nor harmful, but it can definitely be psychologically addictive and neurologically harmful if used wrongly.
yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder
Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) is a disorder in which a person has flashbacks of visual hallucinations or distortions experienced during a previous hallucinogenic drug experience, sometimes with the same feelings experienced before, which cause distress or impairment in work or everyday life.[1] The flashbacks may be continuous or just occasional.[1]
HPPD is a DSM-5 diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89 (F16.983).[1] For the diagnosis to be made, other psychological, psychiatric, or neurological conditions must be ruled out.[1]
The only certain cause for HPPD is prior use of hallucinogens. There are no known risk factors, and what might trigger any specific disturbing hallucination is not known.[1] Some sort of disinhibition of visual processing may be involved.[2]
This is one "pre stage" of what I'm talking about. combined with mental illness, this can really fry a person's ability to live a normal life, or even think clearly at all.
Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) is a disorder in which a person has flashbacks of visual hallucinations or distortions experienced during a previous hallucinogenic drug experience, sometimes with the same feelings experienced before, which cause distress or impairment in work or everyday life.[1] The flashbacks may be continuous or just occasional.[1]
HPPD is a DSM-5 diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89 (F16.983).[1] For the diagnosis to be made, other psychological, psychiatric, or neurological conditions must be ruled out.[1]
The only certain cause for HPPD is prior use of hallucinogens. There are no known risk factors, and what might trigger any specific disturbing hallucination is not known.[1] Some sort of disinhibition of visual processing may be involved.[2]
This is one "pre stage" of what I'm talking about. combined with mental illness, this can really fry a person's ability to live a normal life, or even think clearly at all.
Lohrenswald
世界的 bottom ranked physicist
I've tried all three and I don't agree at all lol
yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
weed is definitely harmful. it can impact your motivation and information retention, not just while you're smoking, but after, too, it can leave you with cravings and put you in a bad mood (psychological addiction) when you cannot have it, it can significantly negatively affect brain development in any person under the age of ~19, it can, with some people, lead the heart flares (not sure if that is the correct term), uncontrolled breathing, it can even come close to a bad trip experience with edibles (though that happens seldom and is not nearly as intense as a bad trip, it's essentialy anxiety mixed with being high, I've seen it in person a few times). and many other concerns come to this, but I won't mention those cuz it's starting to get too personal for me
weed does however not cause physical addiction, only tobacco does. it also is not linked to many physical health deficiencies, quite the opposite. the negative effects are almost exclusively psychological.
just for the record, I hate myself for smoking so much. not because of the tobacco. it costs lots of money, it makes me docile and mindless, it stifles creativity (sometimes the opposite) and is generally an easy way out if you don't want to think or confront your problems. it is a crutch.
Snerk
Smeghead
Does the weed legalisation trend that is sweeping across North America include things like shrooms too? It's definitely on my bucket list.
Lexicus
Deity
yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
in many countries shrooms are and have always been in a legal grey area where cultivating itself is not illegal, but consuming is. the same goes for mani cacti, ephedra plants.. how do I know that? uh..
yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
indeed memes are the building blocks of any human culture, unironically. but yea, internet memes are also cool. til you get bored of em and need the stronger stuff..
Narz
keeping it real
Books can also be psychologically addictive & harmful.
Just make all drugs legal & educate people on their effects. People who are tempted to do drugs should have more & safer options. Certainly LSD would never cause even .001% of the damage of legal drugs like opiates, especially if you could send it to a lab for testing without risking arrest.
What's the frequency though?
Who knows how safe LSD is nowadays and what's really on that paper? Mushrooms are much safer. You can do a double/triple/quadruple "heroic dose" and I've never heard of getting HPPD from it.
I agree that people who are seriously mentally ill may be better off avoiding psychedelic drugs but it's not my call to make. I am not the police of anyone's mind.
How many people are gonna drink one glass of wine & leave it at that? Good day - 1 glass, bad day - 1 glass? That's gonna be playing with fire for all but the most level headed person.
And with all the negatives of alcohol it's not worth it for some negligible positive effect of resveratrol, you can just buy resveratrol in capsules.
Denver just decriminalized it.
yung.carl.jung
Hey Bird! I'm Morose & Lugubrious
agree on most things. I'm not trying to demonize drugs, and I'm all for legalization, I just think pretending psychedelics are harmless is really stupid. I mean damn I've even felt the harm on myself a few times..
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