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Looking at the symbol's history, I would say anything else is better...

 

It's not that bad, but I think an emblem glyph will be much better

 

Well I would but I'm terrible at leaderheads and my time is going to be jampacked with college, real life, and updating Mesopotamia.

Good luck with the project though!

 

Ah, ok.
While I'm thinking of it, here's the link to the leaderhead Optik provided me for my Siyaj K'ak Mayan civ: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10620317&postcount=12

 

I actually drew up a new map, that stretches a little further south-east.

Any civs that end up not having enough information will likely get dropped.

 

"Was born fire mayan civ"?

(I don't know that much mayan, but I know a bit)

 

Umm.. yes, that is roughly what it means.

But "Fire is Born" is the leader's name.

Just curious, do you know which Mayan language that is? I don't speak it, I just found the translation when I was doing research.

As another side note, can you understand Monty? His variant of nahuatl is very spanish-influenced, I know that much. I generally play as him, so i haven't heard him talk too much..

 

I'm not that good with nahuatl yet, also the dialects are not very mutually inteligible, also I never really get a chance to, I'm always playing as him

I'm guessing Ch'olan, but I'm not sure

 

Ch'olan? Ok.
If its relevant, Siyaj K'ak was a general from Teotihuacan, who set himself up as overlord to several Mayan states.

 

How Southeast? To Panama?

 

Actually, can we get a list of the mesoamerican civs with their leaders up in the original post, too?

 

I'll post some updates in the morning, lots of new information and tidbits.

 

Yes, Panama is included

 

hello everyone, I'm pretty busy right now and I have no time to participate more in this topic at the moment.
It looks like this is a great project, really nice civ flag and lots of good ideas.
I have not taken the time to read the whole topic. Did you planned to edit the tech tree?

 

It was planned, at least when I first read it, and, from what I've seen, that appears to be one of the easier mod-types.
Although, I have advocated for the inclusion of Vanilla-operable civs, too.

 

I have not looked at the civ forums for a long time, but when seeing this. It got my attention.

The only question/suggestion I was thinking over after reading this is. Are you looking back in time at cultures like Cahokia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia ) or are you going to only use modern tribes to represent the area of the US for tribes?

If you are just going to use Muskogee and not have anything linking them for example from past Mississippian culture then I think you are missing the peak in height of the culture. I am not an expert on all, but I have done a bit of Southeast US Archaeology. I am currently finishing my Archaeology major. So if you are interested in any input from me send me message.

 

There isn't any info on Cahokian leaders, or am I mistaken there?

 

No info for a leader. Of course not. No written language. Just good guesses on what they would look like based on what has been found. Cahokia was around 1000 AD, and probably was very large. Bigger than anything in Europe at the time. So not having leaders I hope does not mean not important.

 

No, it definitely doesn't mean its not important, but, unfortunately, it does mean we can't make a civ out of it. At least, not a good one, because you need a leader's name, and making one up, while possible, just isn't that great.
If it's not in as a CS yet, though, it certainly needs to be.

 

My opinion I would use some name from Muskogee for it.

With the names you are going to run into the same problems everywhere. For example the Pueblo, Hopi and Zunu argument about the Anasazi name taken from Navajo. All of the cultures have some traits from the older group so any could be used really.

South America plenty of old stuff there with no names for leaders and etc.

Just saying I would link the closest culture to the group as thought of as today in any of the cases, and give the leader a name similar of that modern culture group today.