hobbsyoyo
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This really doesn't change the gist of what I was saying. And in any case cities do fund a lot of those programs themselves in the states.
The Future of The Olympics
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TheMeInTeam
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IOC didn't force the competition to be there. This quote is a comical misalignment of responsibility.
The Olympics are pretty obvious about requirements. If the Korean government didn't want them there, they wouldn't be there. How they handle the inconvenience (or worse) to their citizens is in their hands. Trying to pin this on the IOC would be cowardly on the Korean government's part, hope they're not doing such (haven't seen anything stated along those lines but not following closely).
The future of the Winter Olympics now rests in the mighty hands of the heroic USA #1 Murican Ladies Hockey Team (All Hail!
) as they face their evil nemesis the naughty, nasty Canadians.
Yeah... I said it
) as they face their evil nemesis the naughty, nasty Canadians.Yeah... I said it
The future of the Winter Olympics now rests in the mighty hands of the heroic USA #1 Murican Ladies Hockey Team (All Hail!
Yeah... I said it
Those nasty Canadians were quite good in ice curling the Swiss away !
The future of the Winter Olympics now rests in the mighty hands of the heroic USA #1 Murican Ladies Hockey Team (All Hail!
Yeah... I said it
Is there a proper Ice Hockey World Cup or is the Olympics considered the peak of Ice Hockey? Or does nobody care and the domestic leagues are more valued?
My view as a citoyen of one of the top ice hockey nation is that since Olympics you can win only once in 4 years and the eyes of the all world giving a damn at all about sports are turn on it it carries more weight and prestige then a World cup or Stanley cup.
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The Olympics are the peak. With the recent fight between the NHL and the IOC, the NHL tried forming its own Hockey World Cup based on another try a decade ago with... not great results.
Some NHL players planned to ignore the NHL ban and go to the Olympics anyways (especially the Russians), but then the IOC also banned NHL players from participating. The current ice hockey Olympics for men are with people who are retired or in other leagues (like the SHL and KHL). The actual best of the best are banned.
Yeah, you can't have a world cup with an under 23s team from the same country as another team, that's just silly.
You might be able to get away with "Europe" in the same way the West Indies compete in crikcet... but it still seems a bit naff.
It sucks that there's no "best of the best" international competition though. Such events are the high point of comparably dispersed sports like Rugby Union and Cricket. I imagine a genuine Ice Hockey World Cup would be pretty fun. Even basketball has its international comps with NBA players available.
You might be able to get away with "Europe" in the same way the West Indies compete in crikcet... but it still seems a bit naff.
It sucks that there's no "best of the best" international competition though. Such events are the high point of comparably dispersed sports like Rugby Union and Cricket. I imagine a genuine Ice Hockey World Cup would be pretty fun. Even basketball has its international comps with NBA players available.
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Timsup2nothin
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The International Ice Hockey Federation World Championship tournament is held in May, allowing NHL players to participate except for players that make it deep into the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
This sounds like something someone would say in a pornographic film.
We weren't too bothered by the NHL kerfuffle. After all, our women's team has done very well over the years.
As soon as I posted this, I read it again and wondered how long it would take for somebody to go there
Also... Sean White... Murica! Eff Yeah!
Also... I learned today that Netherlanders consider the implication that they skate around on frozen canals offensive/racist. It was a surprise... but after thinking about it I understood.
In my mind I even read it in that overly erotic voice.
Back on topic: perhaps this world needs a no fap olympics...
Marla_Singer
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We often complain, and on purpose, about how FIFA, UEFA and IOC behaves, but that's really nothing compared with American sports leagues. They are truely the worst when it goes about putting business interests ahead of sporting's interests.
I mean playing for your country will always be more prestigious than winning for a private club. And not only NHL, but NBA or MLB have always spent considerable energy to kill international competitions in their own sports.
Football/soccer clubs in Europe always tried to do the same and prevent players from playing for their national teams, but they've been largely unsuccesful to do so against FIFA/UEFA. They can't even prevent African players from leaving their club in the middle of the season to play the Africa Cup of Nations, and I believe it's a good thing.
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That's evil, communist, socialist and un-American... which of course... are all the same thing.
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Oh, definitely! I think the problem originally started as a result of the NHL team owners not wanting to foot the bill for insurance and taking care of the players while overseas in a competition that doesn't pay off directly for them. But at the same time, none of the parties involved seemed willing to compromise. The IOC wanted full consideration for their demands while the NHL wanted full consideration for theirs. No middle ground. I find it difficult to be on anyone's side except that of the players (since they don't have much of a choice).
It's kind of annoying. I don't care very much about the Olympics myself, but it's a definite point of prestige and achievement for those who go or want to go. A missed Olympics closes a singular window of opportunity for a lot of people or at least reduces how much time we get to see them on the world stage during their career. It's a bit of a laugh, for example, that Connor McDavid isn't at the Olympics because of the mutual ban.
When the next NHLPA (the player union) lockout happens, I wouldn't be surprised if they forced the issue of allowing Olympic participation as part of their contracts here-on-out.
Lexicus
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The sports leagues need to be burned to the ground and replaced with player-governed associations. Giving the fans some share in governance might not be the worst idea either.
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I have to point out that if you are reading stuff in that voice it almost doesn't matter what was posted, it could be something someone said in a porno.
