The Islamophobia Network

There are over 1.3B muslims, I know many, in other countries and in the USA, that are great, amazing people. I am not condemning Muslims, at all.
I am saying, the Koran (the basis of Islam) directs attacks, which unfortunately some Muslims take seriously.
The Bible justifies violence against certain groups, which some Christians take seriously.
Also, even if it doesn't, some Christians will still find a way of rationalising violence against others.

This is a list of Islam inspired attacks since 9/11. It surely exaggerates, but even if you cut about 50% of it out... it's pretty hefty.
Spoiler :
Date / Country / City / Killed / Injured / Description
2011.08.29 Iraq Mosul 2 9 A Shahid suicide bomber sends two other souls to Allah.
2011.08.29 Israel Tel Aviv 0 8 A Palestinian shouting 'Allah Akbar' stabs eight nearby Israelis.
2011.08.28 Afghanistan Takhar 2 0 A doctor and medical worker are murdered by Taliban bombers.
2011.08.28 Pakistan Faisalabad 0 1 A 64-year-old maid is beaten by madrassah students for hosting a Christian prayer meeting in her home.
2011.08.28 Iraq Baghdad 29 37 A Holy Warrior praises Allah before detonating at a Sunni mosque and laying out two dozen worshippers.
2011.08.27 Pakistan Kohat 1 0 A retired man is abducted by Muslim radicals and executed.
2011.08.27 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 4 21 Three children are among four civilians torn to shreds by a suicide bombing outside a bank.
2011.08.27 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 20 A suicide bomber manages to kill an Afghan child and two others.
2011.08.27 Pakistan Chitral 32 9 A massive Taliban assault across the border leaves dozens of secuity personnel and civilians dead.
2011.08.27 Somalia Mogadishu 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered from an Islamic bomb attack.
2011.08.27 Algeria Ataq 2 3 Two guards at an oil facility are shot to death by al-Qaeda militants.
2011.08.26 Nigeria Abuja 23 68 Over two dozen people at a UN building housing humanitarian agencies are crushed to death by a suicide car bomber.
2011.08.26 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Two young boys are beheaded by Islamic radicals.
2011.08.26 Norway Jaeren 0 1 A Christian convert from Islam is scalded with boiling water and acid at a refugee center.
2011.08.26 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim 'insurgents' shoot a Buddhist laborer to death.
2011.08.26 Afghanistan Herat 1 10 A woman is blown to bits by a Taliban bomb hidden in a handcart.
2011.08.26 Thailand Narathiwat 5 1 Five rescue workers are blown apart by a bomb placed under their car.
2011.08.26 Algeria Cherchell 18 26 Two al-Qaeda suicide bombers murder eighteen soldiers and civilians following the break of daily Ramadan fasting.
2011.08.25 Iraq Basra 3 50 Holy Warriors detonate a car bomb outside a rival mosque, killing at least three.
2011.08.25 Thailand Yala 2 9 A 3-year-old girl and her father are shot to death by Holy Warriors.
2011.08.25 India Baramulla 2 15 Two people die from splinter injuries after an Islamist tosses a grenade into a market.
2011.08.25 Nigeria Gombi 16 12 Two banks and a police station are the target of 'Allah Akbar' screaming Islamsts, who leave at least sixteen innocents dead.
2011.08.25 Pakistan Nowshera 12 17 A dozen people at a restaurant are sent to Allah by bombers who hid their device on a child's tricycle.
2011.08.25 Iraq Jbela 3 1 Islamic militants fire on a vehicle, killing a boy, his father and an uncle.
2011.08.25 Iraq Fallujah 9 34 A series of Jihad car bombings leaves at least nine dead.
2011.08.24 Iraq Ramadi 2 7 Sunni snipers fire on a car carrying civilians, killing two.
2011.08.24 Afghanistan Paktia 3 9 Islamists send rockets into a market, taking out at least three patrons, including a child.
2011.08.24 Iraq Diyala 5 9 A woman and child are among five innocents exterminated by Jihadi bombers.
2011.08.24 Iraq Ramadi 6 8 A suicide car bomber takes out a half dozen Iraqis.
2011.08.24 India Avdesh 2 0 Two brothers are abducted and murdered by Hizb-ul-Mujahideen.
2011.08.24 Thailand Songkhla 2 0 Two security personnel die during an Islamist ambush.
2011.08.24 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Mujahideen gun down a school guard.
2011.08.24 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 60-year-old man is shot in the head by Muslim 'insurgents' while walking home.
2011.08.23 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 1 Boko Haram gunmen shoot a woman 7-months pregnant to death in her home.
2011.08.23 Yemen Abyan 8 28 Eight security personnel are killed during an al-Qaeda ambush.
2011.08.23 Thailand Pattani 2 14 Buddhist monks are among the casualties of two bombings that claim two lives.
2011.08.23 Afghanistan Balkh 2 3 Sunni radicals kill two cops with a roadside bomb.
2011.08.23 Pakistan Datta Khel 1 0 The Taliban shoot a refugee to death.
2011.08.23 Algeria Taouarga 1 2 Fundamentalists machine-gun a local soldier to death at a checkpoint.
2011.08.22 Iraq Baqubah 2 0 A 3-year-old girl and her father are shot to death by Islamic 'insurgents' in their home.
2011.08.22 Afghanistan Gereshk 2 4 A child and a shopowner are successfully killed by Mujahideen bombers at a market.
2011.08.22 Iraq Mosul 4 3 A car-bombing and separate shooting attack leave four Iraqis dead, including a teenager.
2011.08.22 Pakistan Khyber 2 0 Tahreek-e-Taliban militants kidnap, bind and then shoot two rivals.
2011.08.22 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A man is shot to death by Muslim terrorists while working a rubber plantation.
2011.08.22 India Handwara 1 1 A housewife is killed when Muslim terrorists open fire on security forces at a village.
2011.08.21 Yemen Arqoup 9 20 Nine members of a tribal gathering are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2011.08.21 Nigeria Bajju 2 3 Suspected Muslim radicals shoot two Christians to death in their homes, including a 5-year-old boy.
2011.08.21 Yemen Moudia 4 0 Four people are torn to pieces by an al-Qaeda suicide bomber with a ball-bearing packed belt.
2011.08.21 Pakistan South Waziristan 3 6 Three defenders are killed during an assault by Islamic militants on their police post.
2011.08.21 Nigeria Riyom 6 0 Fulani raiders attack a Christian village, hacking six to death, including women and children.
2011.08.21 Dagestan Makhachkala 0 17 Children are among the casualties when Islamic 'separatists' set off two bombs at a grocery store.
2011.08.21 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamic gunmen murder a 23-year-old man outside a shop.
2011.08.21 Afghanistan Helmand 1 0 Taliban gunmen assassinate a court official on his way to work.
2011.08.21 Afghanistan Trekh Zaber 1 0 Religious extremists murder a 60-year-old Afghan farmer in front of his sons.
2011.08.20 Iraq Hadid 3 0 Three family members are killed by Mujahideen bombers.
2011.08.20 Afghanistan Kunar 2 0 Two Afghan soldiers returning home leave are stoned, hanged and shot by the Taliban.
2011.08.20 Afghanistan Herat 2 8 Two Afghan security personnel are killed by fundamentalist bombers.
2011.08.20 Afghanistan Ghazni 3 2 Religious extremists take out three civilians with a roadside bomb.
2011.08.20 Nigeria Borno 4 0 Islamists burst into a home and murder four people watching television.
2011.08.20 Israel Beersheba 1 8 Children are among the casualties when Hamas sends rockets into an Israeli town.
2011.08.20 India Gurez 1 2 A local defender loses his life to an attack by Pakistani-backed militants.
2011.08.19 Afghanistan Kabul 9 16 Two Holy Warriors detonate themselves in front of the British council, killing nine innocents.
2011.08.19 Pakistan Kurram 3 3 A Taliban landmine takes out three locals.
2011.08.19 Israel Ashdod 0 10 Gaza militants send rockets into an Israeli seminary, injuring ten.
2011.08.19 Pakistan Jamrud 56 123 A devout Shahid detonates a ball-bearing packed suicide vest at a crowded mosque, slaughtering over fifty others.
2011.08.19 Somalia Mogadishu 7 0 Seven youth are beheaded by al-Shabaab fundamentalists.
2011.08.19 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two Buddhist mattress salesmen, father and son, are shot in the head by Muslim 'activists'.
2011.08.18 Afghanistan Herat 24 9 Seven children are among two dozen bus passengers torn to shreds by Taliban bombers.
2011.08.18 Ingushetia Nazran 1 0 Three Muslim extremists shoot a cop to death in his home.
2011.08.18 Afghanistan Gardez 2 0 A Shahid suicide bomber kills two guards trying to stop him.
2011.08.18 Israel Eilat 8 30 Eight Israelis, including four family members, die when Arab snipers open fire on buses and cars.
2011.08.18 Egypt Sinai 6 0 Terrorists fire on Egyptian police, killing six.
2011.08.18 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A mosque official is gunned down by rivals.
2011.08.18 Pakistan Tirah 1 0 The Taliban behead a man for 'crimes against Islam'.
2011.08.18 Pakistan Karachi 3 0 Three people are kidnapped, executed and dumped ouside a mosque in a suspected sectarian attack.
2011.08.17 Thailand Pattani 1 0 An elderly Buddhist school bus driver is murdered by Islamic snipers.
2011.08.17 Algera Beni Aissa 2 1 A bus driver is among two people who lose their lives to a fundamentalist ambush.
2011.08.17 Thailand Narathiwat 3 0 A rubber tapper is among three civilians shot to death by Muslim gunmen in separate attacks.
2011.08.17 Iraq Baghdad 2 3 Jihad gunmen kill a cafe owner and marketplace patron in separate attacks.
2011.08.17 Pakistan Chamarkand 2 0 A man and his son are gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
2011.08.17 Iraq Tarmiya 2 7 A suicide bomber takes down two family members in their own home.
2011.08.16 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Nasabi-Wahhabi terrorists gun down a Shia shopkeeper.
2011.08.16 Iraq Mosul 8 12 Eight local police are murdered in two separate bombings.
2011.08.16 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 Fundamentalist gunmen murder an 18-year-old teenager as she is getting into her car.
2011.08.16 Afghanistan Uruzgan 8 8 Eight innocents are dismantled by a Taliban motorcycle bomb at a market.
2011.08.16 Iraq Buhriz 2 0 Two boys are shot to death in their own home by 'insurgents'.
2011.08.15 Iraq Karbala 3 41 Three Iraqis are taken down by Mujahid car bombers.
2011.08.15 Iraq Kirkuk 0 14 Fourteen are injured when Muslims bomb a church.
2011.08.15 Iraq Kut 42 75 Over three dozen shoppers at a market are snuffed out by al-Qaeda bombers. The dead include twelve children.
2011.08.15 Yemen al-Jouf 14 5 An al-Qaeda suicide attack leaves fourteen Shiite tribesmen dead.
2011.08.15 Iraq Tikrit 6 10 Suicide bombers send six Iraqis to Allah.
2011.08.15 Iraq Bani Sa'ad 12 33 Sunni car bombers take down eight Shia. Four other Iraqis are gunned down in a separate attack.
2011.08.15 Iraq Karbala 3 41 A Jihad car bomb leaves at least three dead.
2011.08.15 Nigeria Heipang 9 1 Seven children are among a Christian family of nine brutally murdered in their home by Muslim raiders.
2011.08.15 Iraq Najaf 11 74 Seven Shias are left dead after a brutal bombing by Sunni militants.
2011.08.15 Nigeria Foron 3 0 Three people are hacked to death by angry Muslims with machetes
2011.08.15 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 4 8 Four guards at a fuel depot die during a Fedayeen assault.
2011.08.15 Iraq Yusufiya 7 0 al-Qaeda kidnap seven Sahwa members from a mosque and execute them in cold blood.
2011.08.15 Nigeria Sokoto 6 0 A half-dozen Nigerians are taken out by Boko Haram terrorists.
2011.08.14 Pakistan Miramshah 3 25 Three local soldiers are killed when Islamic militants fire rockets into their camp during a celebration.
2011.08.14 Pakistan Karachi 0 1 A Christian is beaten with iron rods after declining an offer to embrace Islam.
2011.08.14 Thailand Pattani 1 0 'Insurgents' shoot a man to death outside a mosque.
2011.08.14 Ingushetia Dattykh 4 7 Four security personnel are executed by Muslim gunmen.
2011.08.14 Iraq Baghdad 8 13 Separate bombings targeting security personnel leave at least eight dead.
2011.08.14 Afghanistan Charikar 22 34 Five Fedayeen stage a suicide assault on a government compound, shooting and blasting at least twenty-two others to death.
2011.08.14 Algeria Tizi Ouzou 0 33 'Thanks to Allah' an al-Qaeda suicide bomber injures at least thirty-three people, including foreigners.
2011.08.13 Dagestan Khasavyurt 1 1 A fireman is shot to death by suspected Islamic militants.
2011.08.13 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A Shiite cleric is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2011.08.13 Afghanistan Helmand 5 0 Three women are among five civilians taken apart by a Taliban bomb.
2011.08.13 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 Suspected Islamists shoot two civilians to death in front of their home.
2011.08.13 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A grown woman is shot to death by her nephew on suspicion of 'illicit relations'.
2011.08.13 India Kerala 1 0 A Hindu woman is kidnapped, gang-raped and killed by Muslim militants.
2011.08.13 Dagestan Boatshyurt 4 0 Four victims of Muslim 'insurgents' are found bound and shot to death.
2011.08.12 Pakistan Bilal 0 12 A small group of Catholics are beaten by fundamentalists after gathering to watch a religious film.
2011.08.12 Pakistan Haridasnagar 1 1 A man is beaten to death after being accused of sorcery.
2011.08.12 Afghanistan Wardak 8 0 Eight local security personnel are abducted and murdered by Sunni fundamentalists.
2011.08.12 Pakistan Peshawar 3 3 Three guards escorting prisoners for medical attention are cut down by Taliban gunmen.
2011.08.12 Dagestan Kurush 2 0 Two civilians are murdered by Muslim 'separatists' wielding machine-guns.
2011.08.12 Iraq Baghdad 2 13 Terrorists bomb a cafe, killing two Iraqis.
2011.08.12 Dagestan Khasavyurt 2 0 Two policemen standing outside a mosque are murdered by angry Muslims.
2011.08.12 Nigeria Ngala 1 0 A 65-year-old cleric is shot to death by Islamic radicals.
2011.08.11 Iraq Ramadi 3 24 'Insurgents' kill three Iraqis in their home with two bombs.
2011.08.11 Pakistan Peshawar 6 17 A child is among six innocents blown to bits by Islamist bombers.
2011.08.11 Pakistan Peshawar 1 20 A female Shahid suicide bomber tosses grenades before detonating, killing another woman.
2011.08.11 Nigeria Ratsa Foron 6 0 Six Christians are hacked to death in the middle of the night by Muslim raiders.
2011.08.11 Pakistan Chapperi 2 0 Two tribesmen are shot to death by terrorists.
2011.08.11 Pakistan Tirah Valley 5 1 Three women and two children are dismantled by a militant bomb attack on their home.
2011.08.10 Pakistan Shadman 1 0 The caretaker of a shrine is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2011.08.09 Pakistan Manshera 1 0 Islamic radicals shoot a tribesman to death.
2011.08.09 Dagestan Kadar 1 0 A policeman is murdered on the doorstep of his home by Islamic 'insurgents'.
2011.08.09 Afghanistan Bala Bulok 4 0 Four civilians are kidnapped and beheaded by Sunni hardliners.
2011.08.09 Afghanistan Dehrawod 5 1 Taliban bombers take down five Afghans at a crowded market.
2011.08.09 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 52-year-old man is shot several times in the head and chest by 'insurgents'.
2011.08.08 Egypt Minya 1 1 A Christian farmer has his throats slit in front of his son by a Muslim mob, who attack Christian homes and also severely beat a pastor.
2011.08.08 Iraq Mosul 4 1 A child and woman are among the dead victims of two Jihad bombings.
2011.08.08 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 0 Boko Haram cadres assassinate a prison comptroller.
2011.08.08 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 0 A teacher is shot to death by Boko Haram Islamists.
2011.08.07 Pakistan Shalobar 2 0 Two tribesmen are executed by religious extremists.
2011.08.07 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 2 A father and son are taken out by a Jihad bomb attack on their home.
2011.08.07 Iraq Iskandariyah 6 14 Two children are among six Shia family members bleeding to death following a bombing of their home.
2011.08.06 Iraq Ramadi 2 7 Terrorists target a sports stadium with coordinated blasts, killing two Iraqis.
2011.08.06 Pakistan Mohmand 1 0 A suicide bomber kills an innocent person at a market.
2011.08.06 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 A shop owner and his son are shot to death by Islamic 'insurgents'.
2011.08.06 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two Shias are gunned down in separate sectarian attacks.
2011.08.06 Pakistan Drigh Road 1 0 A Catholic man with children is the victim of a targeted killing.
2011.08.05 Pakistan Adezai 1 0 Islamists drag an infidel out of a mosque and execute him.
2011.08.05 Iraq Khalis 3 2 A sectarian mortar attack leaves three Iraqis dead.
2011.08.05 Thailand Pattani 3 1 Three Buddhists are shot point blank by Muslim radicals.
2011.08.04 Iraq Baghdad 1 13 Holy Warriors take down a child with a car bomb.
2011.08.04 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 3 Three young girls are among the casualties of a Taliban car bomb.
2011.08.04 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Muslim terrorists are suspected of murdering a married couple driving home from their job as laborers.
2011.08.04 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 38-year-old man is shot to death by Jihadi gunmen.
2011.08.04 Pakistan Kukikhel 1 0 A passerby is caught in the cross-fire when two Islamist groups clash at a market.
2011.08.04 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 Two civilians bleed to death following a Taliban bomb attack.
2011.08.04 Ingushetia Nazran 2 2 Islamic militants shoot two police officers to death as they are sitting in their car.
2011.08.03 Iraq Rasala 4 14 Four Iraqis are killed when fundamentalists bomb a liquor store.
2011.08.03 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 0 Sunni bomb makers take down a child and two others.
2011.08.03 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 Holy warriors stab an army officer to death in his home.
2011.08.03 Iraq Ramadi 9 13 A brutal double bomb attack in a commercial district leaves nine dead.
2011.08.03 Pakistan Darra Adamkhel 1 7 One person is killed when Islamic militants send dozens of mortar shells into a village.
2011.08.03 Somalia Sar-Kuusta 4 8 Four people lose their lives to an al-Shabaab attack.
2011.08.03 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist teacher is shot twice in the head by warriors of Islam.
2011.08.02 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 16 A liquor store is among the targets of two separate bombings in which two people are killed.
2011.08.02 Afghanistan Kunduz 4 10 Four are killed when Muslim extremists stage a Shahid attack on a guesthouse used by foreigners.
2011.08.02 Dagestan Buynaksk 2 1 An Islamist bomb attack leaves two dead.
2011.08.02 Iraq Kirkuk 0 23 Two dozen are injured when radicals bomb a Catholic church.
2011.08.02 Philippines Cotabato 2 9 A 7-year-old child is among two killed by a Jemaah Islamiyah bomb blast.
2011.08.02 Pakistan South Waziristan 4 1 Tehreek-e-Taliban militants kill four local soldiers in two ambushes.
2011.08.01 Iraq Baghdad 0 1 Terrorists wound two children with a sticky bomb.
2011.08.01 Somalia Mogadishu 2 5 Two African peacekeepers are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2011.08.01 Pakistan Munda 3 0 Three civilians are cut down by Mujahid gunmen while gathering wood.
2011.08.01 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 2 A prayer leader is shot and killed by Religion of Peace rivals.
2011.08.01 Afghanistan Nimroz 3 3 Three Afghans are dismantled by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2011.08.01 Pakistan Quetta 2 3 al-Qaeda militants are suspected of planting a bomb at a garbage dump that leaves two children dead.
2011.08.01 Pakistan Atariwal 1 1 A woman dies from injuries when Taliban militants fire a rocket into her home.
2011.07.31 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 An education official and his son are executed by Muslim 'insurgents'.
2011.07.31 China Kashgar 3 0 Three people are killed by a Muslim bomb blast in a downtown district.
2011.07.31 China Kashgar 7 22 Muslim radicals hijack a truck and ram it into a crowd of Han (non-Muslims), then begin a stabbing spree that leaves seven dead.
2011.07.31 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 13 12 A 10-year-old boy is among those killed in a suicide car bomb attack claimed by Sunni radicals.
2011.07.31 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A juice trader is shot to death at a market by Islamic terrorists.
2011.07.31 China Kashgar 6 0 Members of the East Turkistan Islamic Movement kill a restaurant owner and waiter, then hack four others to death.
2011.07.31 Pakistan Tank 1 0 A tribal elder is assassinated at a market by religious extremists.
2011.07.31 Algeria Tissemsilt 3 6 Fundamentalists bomb a vehicle carrying local soldiers, killing three.
2011.07.31 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 al-Shabaab gunmen assassinate a lawmaker outside a hotel.

That's in ONE month.
These are not "attaqcks from the Islamic world" as you said, but attacks upon the Islamic world, from within, most of which are perpetrated for ethnic and political reasons rather than out and out adherence to the faith.

It is racist, any time you stereotype someone based on the color of their skin, which is not something they ever can choose (short of being M Jackson). Just because you feel justified in your racism doesn't mean it is not racism.
End of story.
It's not racist if it's a statistical fact.
Much like it's not racist to say "proportionately there are more black in prison", it's not racist to say "generally, white people have been the most dangerous in recent history".

Though I'd be intrigued at knowing exactly what kind of racism you think I'm flaking and perpetrating here?

I won't even dignify this with a response.
Won't, or can't?

It was just further racism on your behalf. I know Muslims can serve in the US Military, as I served with several who were fine soldiers.
So what's the problem? Also, I beg of thee, stop pulling the race card on everything, you're embarrassing white people everywhere.
 
MJM, I think all christians do indeed have to deal with such issues and topics as you have just now shown.

And I think you greatly mistaken about the implication that white people having started all the worlds major genocides (i.e. Cambodia/Laos, Vietnam, the Turks, and a huge number of African Nations come to mind).

Turks are white.
 
Those Christians who do that are working against the words of Christ.

Unfortunately, in the Islamic World, that "small minority" is enough to do tons of damage...
I absolutely do not lump all Muslims in with the terrorists...
However, Islam is fundamentally flawed, as seen by the fact that it's uncontradicted commands to attack are at least partially responsible for the religion based attacks.

I'm sure those Christians think they are doing the work of Christ. As do those Muslims who do suicide bombings and such. (Same god different name.)

So would you say Christianity is fundamentally flawed because it's leader have also directed it's followers toward violence? (The Crusades.) And the Crusades killed a lot more people than any modern Muslim terrorist attacks.

MJM, I think all christians do indeed have to deal with such issues and topics as you have just now shown.

As do Muslims with topics discussed above and throughout modern history.

And I think you greatly mistaken about the implication that white people having started all the worlds major genocides (i.e. Cambodia/Laos, Vietnam, the Turks, and a huge number of African Nations come to mind).

All races, unfortunately, have engaged in genocide... the Chinese, all over the place in Africa, white people, etc, etc.
White people certainly don't have a monopoly on that.

Both of you guys didn't read my sentence carefully. I said they started most major world genocides, which they did. Not all. White-intiated genocides are among the most successful. The Native American population is a fraction today of what it was 500 years ago. The Jewish population lost over 6 million in less than 3 years thanks to a white man's ideal. I'm not saying Whites have perpetuated every genocide, but certainly a lot of them and the most successful ones to date.

Even genocides caused by others (Rwandan genocide, etc.) have been indirectly caused by Whites. The Tutsi were picked out to be Tutsi because the colonizers of Rwanda felt they had more white characteristics, and gave them the most power in the country even though they were the minority. The majority Hutu population built up contempt for the Tutsi for years, and then when the white man left Rwanda, the Hutu mysteriously rose up and took out their anger on the Tutsi. The Tutsi would have never been a target had white people not put them up on a pedestal for being more 'White-like'.
 
The Bible justifies violence against certain groups, which some Christians take seriously.
The OT does, Christ does not. Those who say otherwise are wrong.

Also, even if it doesn't, some Christians will still find a way of rationalising violence against others.
OK, but they are wrong. You're talking individuals, I'm talking entire book.
So, what is worse... a book that people have to twist and rationalize to explain killings?
Or a book that is very clear in telling people to kill innocents, that the rest of the religion actually has to twist and rationalize in order to NOT be killers?
Anyhow, as I said above, I'm done with the Christianity vs Islam argument... it's clear.

These are not "attaqcks from the Islamic world" as you said, but attacks upon the Islamic world, from within, most of which are perpetrated for ethnic and political reasons rather than out and out adherence to the faith.
There are attacks within and outside of the Islamic World on that list... and that's just 30 days worth of attacks. I can provide you the list back to 9/11/2001... It's pretty huge.


It's not racist if it's a statistical fact.
Much like it's not racist to say "proportionately there are more black in prison", it's not racist to say "generally, white people have been the most dangerous in recent history".
It is racist, glad you think it isn't.
And, again, Mao killed more by himself in one lifetime than whites have killed from 1900-2000.
So, you are wrong, just taking one person into account.

Also, I beg of thee, stop pulling the race card on everything, you're embarrassing white people everywhere.
You're the one being a racist, you brought race into this, not me.
Please, also, don't speak for white (or any race of) people... it is rather presumptious, and racist (to think we all share your opinion).
 
Absolutely not, as murder, torture and terrorism HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, per Christ, doctrinally wrong.
What authority decided this? You already rejected the Catholic church, so what is left? Council of Nicaea?

I am saying, the Koran (the basis of Islam) directs attacks, which unfortunately some Muslims take seriously.

This is a list of Islam inspired attacks since 9/11. It surely exaggerates, but even if you cut about 50% of it out... it's pretty hefty.
Yes. Looking at at roughly a 3rd of the land area on earth in a part that is very unstable, predominantly Muslim, with de facto civil wars going on, there will be many militants who are Muslim.
Looking at the list closer, it seems to fall into two main groups:
1. Civil War or Sepratist Movement
2. It takes place in a ******* war zone.
These three are good examples:
2011.07.31 Pakistan Tank 1 0 A tribal elder is assassinated at a market by religious extremists.
Pakistan has a de facto civil war going on, and does 'tribal elder' really mean anything? For all we know this attack could simply be some guy locking to get back at him, or even have nothing to do with religion!
2011.07.31 Algeria Tissemsilt 3 6 Fundamentalists bomb a vehicle carrying local soldiers, killing three.
Lets see, there is an actual civil war in Algeria between the FLN (government, run by the military) and the GIS/FIS (fighting the government). Given that there is an actual civil war going on, I would place those dead as "war casualties' rather then anything else.
2011.07.31 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 al-Shabaab gunmen assassinate a lawmaker outside a hotel.
Again, a frilling civil war.

I won't even dignify this with a response.
It is true. I have a far higher chance of being killed by a white, Christian, male then I do of being killed by a islamic militant.

MjM said:
So would you say Christianity is fundamentally flawed because it's leader have also directed it's followers toward violence? (The Crusades.) And the Crusades killed a lot more people than any modern Muslim terrorist attacks.
Ignoring the crusades (given kochmans stance on the Inquisition, he will likely disregard the crusades), we can always bring up the wonderful writings of Martin Luther. Two gems spring to mind "On Jews and Their Lies" and "Against the Murdering, Theivious, Rapacious hordes of peasants".

kochman said:
And, again, Mao killed more by himself in one lifetime than whites have killed from 1900-2000.
Looking at the absolute largest estimate for those killed in the Great Leap Forward (I'm ignoring the Civil War), the total is at 46 million.
WWI: 16 million
WWII: 78 million
Combined: 94 million, which is more then Mao. Looking at solely civilian casualties, eliminating Japan, and broadening it to include civilian casualties in Western wars, we would still be higher then Mao.
 
Turks are white.
Some would argue that they are asiatic, but that is moot... His point is still valid, genocide goes on all over the world.

@adijica... that's one month... and, as I said, you can certainly cut out about 50% of it right off the bat.

Doesn't change the fact, the Islamic World has more religion based violence than anywhere else...

Those civil wars you so quickly discount... those are examples of Islamic Fundamentalists in those countries trying to take over the country (and turn it into an Islamic State such as seen in Iran).
 
These are not "attaqcks from the Islamic world" as you said, but attacks upon the Islamic world, from within, most of which are perpetrated for ethnic and political reasons rather than out and out adherence to the faith.

Well, in fairness, the Inquisition was also attacks on their own populace. Or for a better example, the Catholics vs Protestants in Ireland for so many years. Just because it is Muslim on Muslim terrorism, doesnt make it any less terrorism.
 
It is true. I have a far higher chance of being killed by a white, Christian, male then I do of being killed by a islamic militant.
In America, sure, because the ratio is something absurd (way more WASPs than Islamics in the USA to begin with)... worldwide, absolutely not.

Ignoring the crusades (given kochmans stance on the Inquisition, he will likely disregard the crusades), we can always bring up the wonderful writings of Martin Luther. Two gems spring to mind "On Jews and Their Lies" and "Against the Murdering, Theivious, Rapacious hordes of peasants".
1) The Crusades was led by the Catholic Church, not Christ.
2) It was in response to centuries of Islamic nations conquering Christian lands
3) Is going back 800 years the best you can do? Because I went back about 2 hours...
4) Blah blah blah with this Christianity vs Islam nonsense...
That thread already exists.

This is about Islamophobia, and I brought up Islamo-apologism...
Can we go back in that direction please?
 
The OT does, Christ does not. Those who say otherwise are wrong.


OK, but they are wrong. You're talking individuals, I'm talking entire book.
So, what is worse... a book that people have to twist and rationalize to explain killings?
Or a book that is very clear in telling people to kill innocents, that the rest of the religion actually has to twist and rationalize in order to NOT be killers?
Anyhow, as I said above, I'm done with the Christianity vs Islam argument... it's clear.
In my country, we have faced assault from christian extremist groups for about 80 years.


It is racist, glad you think it isn't.
Stop parroting the same thing over and over, it's nto racist.
And, again, Mao killed more by himself in one lifetime than whites have killed from 1900-2000.
So, you are wrong, just taking one person into account.
And we can go to the USSR, Nazi Germany, Revolutionary France, the British Empire, and indeed the United States of America in the lat 50 years.


You're the one being a racist, you brought race into this, not me.
Please, also, don't speak for white (or any race of) people... it is rather presumptious, and racist (to think we all share your opinion).

Again, I'm not being racist.
It's quite amusing to see whites trying to paint themsevles as some sort of minority interest group.
 
And we can go to the USSR, Nazi Germany, Revolutionary France, the British Empire, and indeed the United States of America in the lat 50 years.
Ummm... 1st, what genocide has the USA done in the last 50 years?
I showed you one non-white person (he killed over 70 million), and allowed you to compare ALL white majority countries... You had 2 world wars in the window I gave, 1900-2000, and you couldn't top what that one non-white did.
Sorry, you were wrong.
You were also, be default, racist.

Again, I'm not being racist.
It's quite amusing to see whites trying to paint themsevles as some sort of minority interest group.
Oh, since I am a majority in my country, for the time being, it is ok to insult my race?
That's such an uplifting way of thinking.
 
I find it interesting that some people are quick to defend Islam while also condemning Christianity and/or Catholicism.

Most of those aforementioned people haven't read either the Koran or the New Testament.
 
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1) The Crusades was led by the Catholic Church, not Christ.

Muslim terrorist attacks are led by a terrorist cell leader, not Allah.

2) It was in response to centuries of Islamic nations conquering Christian lands

Do you know what the Crusades were? :confused: It was an offensive campaign launched by Europeans to take back the 'holy land', which was never theirs to begin with. Islamic countries at the time did harass Byzantium, but that is only because Byzantium attacked it first. It was not a war to get back at the Muslims, it was an offensive campaign designed to destroy them as a race and religion, and to take something that was never theirs to begin with.

3) Is going back 800 years the best you can do? Because I went back about 2 hours...

Those aren't attacks designed to further some invisible Islamic agenda that you are convinced is there, rather it is the result of living in a politically and socially unstable part of the world.
 
Looking at the absolute largest estimate for those killed in the Great Leap Forward (I'm ignoring the Civil War), the total is at 46 million.
WWI: 16 million
WWII: 78 million
Combined: 94 million, which is more then Mao. Looking at solely civilian casualties, eliminating Japan, and broadening it to include civilian casualties in Western wars, we would still be higher then Mao.
More historical revisionism here from adijica...
70 million dead from Mao. The biggest murderer in the history of mankind.

And, WW2 was not only White people...
Remember that whole Rape of Nanking episode? The Japanese were quite brutal...
 
Ummm... 1st, what genocide has the USA done in the last 50 years?
I showed you one non-white person (he killed over 70 million), and allowed you to compare ALL white majority countries... You had 2 world wars in the window I gave, 1900-2000, and you couldn't top what that one non-white did.
Sorry, you were wrong.
You were also, be default, racist.
The conflict in South Asia, where in the space of a few years, the US Military wiped out 3 million people (for the record, that's a quarter of the Holocaust) has been termed a genocide by certain sources, not that I agree 100%, but the evidence is there.

I don't know why you're suck a stickler for "genocide", when I'm talking in much more general terms.


Oh, since I am a majority in my country, for the time being, it is ok to insult my race?
That's such an uplifting way of thinking.
Can a person essentially be racist against their own race, if they identify as such?
 
Muslim terrorist attacks are led by a terrorist cell leader, not Allah.

The New Testament says nothing about launching Crusades to kill the unbeliever; the Koran, however, does state to kill the unbeliever.

Do you know what the Crusades were? :confused: It was an offensive campaign launched by Europeans to take back the 'holy land', which was never theirs to begin with. Islamic countries at the time did harass Byzantium, but that is only because Byzantium attacked it first. It was not a war to get back at the Muslims, it was an offensive campaign designed to destroy them as a race and religion, and to take something that was never theirs to begin with.

Excuse me, you are absolutely incorrect.

The Crusades were launched because the Muslims would not give Pilgrims passage to the Holy Land. Any other, discrete objectives were maintained by only a select few in the Crusade. To say the Christians were launching an offensive against the Muslims, after centuries of Muslim attacks against Christians, is silly. It's a reaction, not a cause.
 
@adijica... that's one month... and, as I said, you can certainly cut out about 50% of it right off the bat.
And? That still doesn't ignore the fact that almost all of those attacks listed are from a country engaged in either civil war, supressing a very large militant ethnic group, or a war zone. I am not denying that Islamic militants conduct terrorist attacks. What I am challenging is the inane way that terrorist attacks are lumped in with violence that in most cases is completely unrelated to Islam.
Again, I cannot take a list seriously that considers casualties in the Algerian Civil War to be part of 'islamic terror'.

Doesn't change the fact, the Islamic World has more religion based violence than anywhere else...
A cursory reading of the various countries and militant groups on the list will reveal that most of them are ethnic based/fighting against an oppressive government with Islam being a background issue. For example, the FIS/GIA in Algeria was a reaction against the overthrow of Ben Bella and the coup of Boumedienne.

Those civil wars you so quickly discount... those are examples of Islamic Fundamentalists
Please, do elaborate on how you can characterize every civil war and militant group from Algeria to Inner Mongolia as 'Islamic Fundamentalists' without elaborating on what exactly consitutes 'Islamic Fundamentalism'.
in those countries trying to take over the country (and turn it into an Islamic State such as seen in Iran).
So, better Baathist Iraq then Khomeni Iran?

2) It was in response to centuries of Islamic nations conquering Christian lands
That is a flat out lie.
 
The New Testament says nothing about launching Crusades to kill the unbeliever; the Koran, however, does state to kill the unbeliever.
It also says that civilians should never be targeted under any circumstances. And like Christians and Jews, only the extremists actually follow these ancient passages anymore.
 
Christian hatemongers typically quote the Old Testament just fine. Amusingly enough, this doesn't seem to discourage anti-semitism on part of these hatemongers.

And just like Muslim hatemongers think that the Koran justifies them, many fine and upstanding Muslims think that the Koran's commandments support them in their quest to be fine and upstanding. "Christianity" and "Islam" are fairly broad concepts. I don't think that generalizations are entirely unreasonable - every generalization is wrong, including this one - but they should be done with care and knowledge of stuff you're generalizing about.

Some of the stuff said about Muslims is quite similar to the "elitist" strand of anti-Jewish sentiment. Many people were complaining about the unhygienic and barbaric Jews, with their subversive ideologies, tendency to political terrorism ("Jewish revolutionary" stereotype), unsecular outlook and their refusal to assimilate back in the days.

Do you know what the Crusades were? It was an offensive campaign launched by Europeans to take back the 'holy land', which was never theirs to begin with. Islamic countries at the time did harass Byzantium, but that is only because Byzantium attacked it first. It was not a war to get back at the Muslims, it was an offensive campaign designed to destroy them as a race and religion, and to take something that was never theirs to begin with.

The Crusades were launched because the Muslims would not give Pilgrims passage to the Holy Land. Any other, discrete objectives were maintained by only a select few in the Crusade. To say the Christians were launching an offensive against the Muslims, after centuries of Muslim attacks against Christians, is silly. It's a reaction, not a cause.
Both these statements are largely wrong.

If the Muslims had a holy place somewhere in Christian Europe, I bet there'd be harassing onf Muslim piligrims, too. And the local Christian population of Syria and Palestine (back them, it was a larger % of population then today) didn't particularly welcome the Crusaders as religious liberators.
 
Do you know what the Crusades were? :confused: It was an offensive campaign launched by Europeans to take back the 'holy land',
Not quite. It was an attempt by Pope Urban II to gain some favor with the Byzantine Empire while asserting Papal Temporal authority and get all of the lordless knights out of Europe (who had managed to turn Italy into a battleground and turn the papacy into a time-share amongst various patricians.)


More historical revisionism here from adijica...
70 million dead from Mao.
I grabbed my numbers from wikipedia.
Great Leap Forward said:
The Great Leap ended in catastrophe, resulting in tens of millions of excess deaths.[2] Estimates of the death toll range from 16.5 to 46 million,[3][4][5] with estimates by demographic specialists ranging from 18 to 32.5 million.[6]

Remember that whole Rape of Nanking episode? The Japanese were quite brutal...
Remember the firebombing of Dresden? The firebombing of Japan with the express intent to devestate the civilian population?
 
The conflict in South Asia, where in the space of a few years, the US Military wiped out 3 million people (for the record, that's a quarter of the Holocaust) has been termed a genocide by certain sources, not that I agree 100%, but the evidence is there.
You are calling Vietnam a genocide?
OK then...

Do you know what the Crusades were? :confused: It was an offensive campaign launched by Europeans to take back the 'holy land', which was never theirs to begin with. Islamic countries at the time did harass Byzantium, but that is only because Byzantium attacked it first. It was not a war to get back at the Muslims, it was an offensive campaign designed to destroy them as a race and religion, and to take something that was never theirs to begin with.
"Harass Byzantium"? Hundreds of years of conquering their lands is a bit more than a harassing action.
You think the Crusades was designed to kill all Arabs now? Or, who do you mean... Muslim is not a race...

The Crusades came AFTER a call from the Byzantines to help get their land back. It was a COUNTER-offensive campaign.

Those aren't attacks designed to further some invisible Islamic agenda that you are convinced is there, rather it is the result of living in a politically and socially unstable part of the world.
So, when terrorists make their matyrdom videos, or broadcast beheadings and read direct quotes from the Koran where they are directed to decapite, it has nothing to do with Islam?
 
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