The NES Wiki - Get Wiki With It

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Angst]

First, apathy tends to deaden one's enthusiasm:


Second, if you go back a page, you will see that we had this exact discussion four months ago. I shot it down for the same reasons, because it's a terrible idea.


Because NES rules aren't related to NESing...


Yes. A reference. As in a place to look up a summary of information which is contained elsewhere, in an easy to navigate fashion, rather than simply duplicating the original work over again. Not an archive of everything ever, word for word, entombed and untouchable. I agree.

Thank you for supporting my point despite thinking you were disagreeing with it. If despite just reiterating what I have said, you would like to continue with Abaddon's hairbrained idea, by all means, it's your time. I'm just telling you it's stupid, inefficient, unintuitive, redundant, and useless--you don't have to listen to me, plenty of other people don't.

[EDIT] Here's an example of what you guys are advocating taken just a little farther: why don't we make a Wiki page for every NES post ever? Not the threads, no, the individual posts. Then we could organize comments by category, and you could search the entire history of NESing! Imagine the power of all that information organized and at your finger tips in a flash! Our knowledge would be as a shining pinnacle upon the Internet!

Please, you're saying there's no reason to do so? Perhaps not, but christ. NESes aren't updated constantly, and some people (like me) could perhaps like to spend more time with NESing in any possible way. So yes, I am wasting my time perhaps, but you can say that as the same argument against playing computer games. It's spending time. Therefore, there's no reason for you to make us spend more time on the term, nor delete our work (I'm not sure whether you wanted to do that or not, but I'm just throwing it in to be sure). It's not like you waste time yourself.

And okay, probably I could run a NES, but it's not like you ever joined the NES I began some time ago, so it's still not like you should care.

 

[Abaddon]

LJ, best left it drop. Internet arguments are impossible at best, and a nightmare with him.

We will not delete what we add, that is enough.

 

[Angst]

Well, it has been dropped already, it's ok. He didn't reply to me when I wrote it. So, to writing rulesets...

 

[The Strategos]

Might as well state that I've updated the Religion Guide (Added section on revelation, magic, and slightly edited creating theology section) and added Silver's genocide guide (without editing it, might later go back and do that). I'm throwing around the idea in my head at taking a crack at adding a military guide and propaganda guide in the far future.

 

[Dachs]

I'm throwing around the idea in my head at taking a crack at adding a military guide and propaganda guide in the far future.

Always willing to help.

 

[Dachs]

As it turns out, I did end up helping: here's the Military Guide that Strategos organized and wrote and to which I lent some help. Further sections are slated for addition soon.

 

[The Strategos]

As it turns out, I did end up helping: here's the Military Guide that Strategos organized and wrote and to which I lent some help. Further sections are slated for addition soon.

And by "I lent some help" he means wrote at least half of it. Thank you for that by the way, the quailty of the project and the speed it was completed are thanks to your help.

As we've knocked out two guides in a relatively quick amount of time (religion and military) I thought we might as well keep going. I suggested a propaganda guide earlier. Would you the community think that helpful? Is there something else you would like a guide on?

In other news, I added a category for "Guide" and added all guides we currently have to it (4!). It may be worth undoing the redirect from "Guide" to the main NESing Guide now that we have multiple guides on the site. Unfortunately, after a few minutes of playing around trying to do that, I failed to figure out how. I'll try to play around with it again later if someone doesn't fix it first.

 

[flyingchicken]

Economics guide not written by Masada.

 

[flyingchicken]

Guys, add your gruesome you-as-Himmler fantasies to the (slightly made prettier) Genocide Guide! It will be fun, promises!

 

[The Strategos]

Added a brief Magic Guide for those good children of the Enlightenment who do not see the potential for use in a non-fantasy, non-magical setting.


Announcing the start of a political guide with the following outline:

I. Forms of Government

A. Rule By None​

B. Rule By One​

C. Rule By Few​

D. Rule By Majority​

E. Rule By All​

II. Internal Politics

III. International Politics


Anyone interested in helping in aforementioned project let me know what areas you would be interested in adding/completing.

 

[The Strategos]

Redid both form and content of Genocide Guide. It's new headings are:

1) Pre-Genocide
2) Short-term Genocide
3) Long-term Genocide
4) Post-Genocide

 

[Gelion]

It would not hurt if we added a "skills" parameter/line to NESers personal profiles on the wiki. Skills like graphics, excel profisciency, story-telling ( ), website creation and so on.

 

[carmen510]

However, would it be something of a ranking system?

I generally do not like to judge another NESer by a ranking or mere numerical score.

 

[Gelion]

Its not about judging or labeling someone, but rather knowing who is able to do what (including for the community).

 

[Communisto]

Why not allow NESers to post a list of strengths and weaknesses?

 

[carmen510]

Well, the problem is on both sides.

If NESers post, some with over-inflated egos (Not naming names, but the While We Wait offers examples) will obviously post as many strengths as possible with little or no weaknesses. Or they will overemphasize such strengths and downplay weaknesses.

If only a few people post, they will tint the player with their views, like how everybody nearly hates sp1023 and Charles Li, which is also bad.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Isn't that the idea that you personally would add your assessment of skills to your own user page? And they'd be skills that would be of service to the NESing community as a whole, rather than in a particular NES?

I don't see how that's at all controversial...

 

[carmen510]

In theory. The problem is the distortion people might cause to such a list, resulting in battles and confusion, also in theory.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

In theory. The problem is the distortion people might cause to such a list, resulting in battles and confusion, also in theory.

Okay, but the point of a wiki is you can see who edited it. So obviously you can figure out whether the person actually added it themselves. And the point is that you're listing objective skills like "coding" and "map-making", not "OMG incredibly awesome !!!1!!one!".