claudius888 said:Oh group settle down.... there only having trouble with Nvidia and ATI cards.
WHAT NUMBSKULLS!! What, other cards are there!?!
haha, nice
claudius888 said:Oh group settle down.... there only having trouble with Nvidia and ATI cards.
WHAT NUMBSKULLS!! What, other cards are there!?!
haha, nice
claudius888 said:That about says it all..... but, half-baked also comes to mind. Any half decently managed software company should at least be able to get a patch in place by the time the software hits the shelves.
WHERE'S MY PATCH!?!
Hustapha Thool said:I have an ATI story for the installation of the game. Last Friday I recieved my pre-order from amazon at about 10AM. I had an ATI 9600 pro installed in my shuttle. I had been following the boards so I installed Civ IV as per the ATI install procedures (install civ with the direct x on the disk) on the front page of civfanatics, the game worked like a dream. Two hours later my new X800xl arrived. I had hoped that I could just pop it in and go, but I recieved the "failed to render" error, DRATS! I then removed the PAK file and replaced with the PAK download, it worked like a dream.
I understand why some people are so upset, but I have been gaming for years and years and this install was virtually painless. If you "youngins" knew what kind of hoops you had to jump through in the 386 and 486 days to get a game to run, if you ever did get it to run you would consider this hiccup a breeze. These kinds of issues are very common with game releases still today.
A computer is a very complex machine, the tech evolves very quickly and mine is very different than yours. If you want software that is plug and run I would sugest you stick with, IMHO ,crap console games. Don't be so impatient, The game was released on a Wednesday, and a large fix was available to me on Friday.
It is a basic fact, if you want to play great NEW games you have to keep up a bit tech-wise. It does not take a lot of money (the 9600 pro worked great for this game, what is it worth, $60?) but it does take a little bit of time investigating your purchases. Stay away from the pre-packaged comp systems if you want to play games, most are designed just to get you on the internet, chat, read mail and send photos to grandma . All you need to build a computer is a screwdriver and a bit of reading, it is really quite simple, and if you do not want/like to do that, it is usually very easy to find a relative-friend who would not mind doing so.
It is the basic truth of this business. PC games are cutting edge software-wise. Part of this is to spur the desire of cutting-edge hardware. F.E.A.R of DOOM demand this kind of cutting edge price. Civ IV , not so much, but if you are expecting your work laptop or 4 year old computer or 1 year old Dell built with no gaming capabilities to run it well...
I am probably starting to sound like an a** so I will quit my rant with...
WOW this is one great game. THANKYOU Sid and Firaxes.
maartena said:How can they have a patch ready when they haven't got a report back from users that have played the game on different hardware then what they tested with?
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maartena said:How can they have a patch ready when they haven't got a report back from users that have played the game on different hardware then what they tested with?
There are thousands of different configuration possibilities, and actually thousands and thousands more if you take different versions of chipset, video, sound, or other drivers into account. There is absolutely NO WAY they can test everything, and any game developer will rely on information out of the field after the first release so they can start working on a patch.
I am sure a patch that will address a good portion of the bugs will be released in a month or so. They too need time to actually build the patch based on information from the field, and that will most likely include reproducing the bug. Reproducing the bug is half the work as that will tell them where to look. Then they need to test the fix - on a variety of hardware to make sure that the FIX doesn't BREAK anything else.
Software development and patching software gets pretty detailed when you start to take a closer look at it.
The best thing you can do is submit all your hardware info and the bugs you have experienced to Firaxis or 2KGames so they have more facts to work with and can get a fix to you faster. It helps a lot more if a 100 people submit a bug report then only 10.
TheBarnacle said:dude, i don't know you, and no offense, but you sound like one of those 'phantom' movies reviewers studios have shilling on message boards: "DOOM is the best movie ever ! omg, i can't believe what a great actor the rock has become. i'm going to go back and spend another $12 to see it again it was sooooooo good!!! thank you for making this movie!!!"
claudius888 said:That about says it all..... but, half-baked also comes to mind. Any half decently managed software company should at least be able to get a patch in place by the time the software hits the shelves.
WHERE'S MY PATCH!?!
JamieHex said:This game is the biggest POS I have purchased in a long long time. I rarely bother posting about games but wow...
For those of you being critical of negative posting by saying "Oh gee that's constructive" well it's not my job to fix or be constructive. I am a consumer who wasted 50 dollars on a game that runs like crap on the best of systems.
Unfortunately this is what the gaming magnates have almost all become. Date pushed, will fix after release, pay me now fuktards.
The game is already uninstalled and tossed in a box. Have posted to muliple boards about what a waste it is. Hope to save some ppl 50 dollars.
Hustapha Thool said:I have an ATI story for the installation of the game. Last Friday I recieved my pre-order from amazon at about 10AM. I had an ATI 9600 pro installed in my shuttle. I had been following the boards so I installed Civ IV as per the ATI install procedures (install civ with the direct x on the disk) on the front page of civfanatics, the game worked like a dream. Two hours later my new X800xl arrived. I had hoped that I could just pop it in and go, but I recieved the "failed to render" error, DRATS! I then removed the PAK file and replaced with the PAK download, it worked like a dream.
I understand why some people are so upset, but I have been gaming for years and years and this install was virtually painless. If you "youngins" knew what kind of hoops you had to jump through in the 386 and 486 days to get a game to run, if you ever did get it to run you would consider this hiccup a breeze. These kinds of issues are very common with game releases still today.
A computer is a very complex machine, the tech evolves very quickly and mine is very different than yours. If you want software that is plug and run I would sugest you stick with, IMHO ,crap console games. Don't be so impatient, The game was released on a Wednesday, and a large fix was available to me on Friday.
It is a basic fact, if you want to play great NEW games you have to keep up a bit tech-wise. It does not take a lot of money (the 9600 pro worked great for this game, what is it worth, $60?) but it does take a little bit of time investigating your purchases. Stay away from the pre-packaged comp systems if you want to play games, most are designed just to get you on the internet, chat, read mail and send photos to grandma . All you need to build a computer is a screwdriver and a bit of reading, it is really quite simple, and if you do not want/like to do that, it is usually very easy to find a relative-friend who would not mind doing so.
It is the basic truth of this business. PC games are cutting edge software-wise. Part of this is to spur the desire of cutting-edge hardware. F.E.A.R of DOOM demand this kind of cutting edge price. Civ IV , not so much, but if you are expecting your work laptop or 4 year old computer or 1 year old Dell built with no gaming capabilities to run it well...
I am probably starting to sound like an a** so I will quit my rant with...
WOW this is one great game. THANKYOU Sid and Firaxes.
Old Dood said:It is a great game....we just haven't seen it all yet. Why they didn't have many of the loyal fan base beta-test is beyond me....