The strange case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?

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I am reading it these days. For several reasons- not the least of them being that i was never very fond of Stevenson's writing style- i havent read it before, and it has surprised me, although negatively.

Definately due to the story being as famous, and also due to its various presentantions on the cinema (i can remember the one with John Malcovic) i expected to read a story which was a lot more detailed, as can happen when one has first seen a movie of a story where inevitably all details are visible.
On the contrary what i have read up to now, having reached to the 2/5ths of the story, was very lacking in details.
There are many characters. The lawer, Mr. Atterson, his cousin (who first tells of Mr. Hyde), a maid who saw the murder commited by Mr. Hyde, Dr. Lanyon (a man of medicine, as Dr. Jekyll) and ofcourse Mr. Hyde himself. Then there are secondary characters, like the female servant of the house where Mr. Hyde is staying, and the male butler of Dr. Jekyll.
However none of them is described in any detail. There are sketches of what impression one can form of them (for example that they appear to be malignant, or joyfull) but the details of their forms are rarely given, and so one literary can imagine anything he wants to and definately one would be forced to rely on very general views about the appearence of different classes of people in the Victorian era. This makes the story rely too much in my opinnion to the imagination of the individual reader.
Also Mr. Hyde, who is the central character, is not described in any more detailed way either, and that when we are being told again and again that he has some type of deformity, but one which cannot be described. Other than that he is short (or dwarf-like) and evil-looking.

Although unfortunately it is impossible for me to read the story without keeping in mind what i already know about it, i could note the similarity in style between Stevenson and Mahen, the latter being one of the major writers of 'strange' literature, who used a similar formation for some of his stories, that is he used multiple characters (although not as many) who reveal parts of the plot by their own examinations, or twists of fate. However Mahen provided a lot more detailed descriptions.

Overall, up to now, my impression is that this novel is not well-written, and that it must have been the impact of the idea of the metamorphosis of Jekyll to Hyde, which had caused it to become so famous. The split of human qualities to pure good and pure evil, with some complementary variations (for example Atterson is worried that Jekyll may have had some bad deeds in his past, but those bad deeds would have been insignificant next to Hyde's consistent behaviour) seems to be the main driving force of the plot.

I will first read the rest, and then return to writing my impressions, but in the meantime you could post what you thought of the story :)

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It isn't bad. It's true that the character sketches aren't too detailed, but you can work out quite a bit about the characters by what they do and how they react. Like many such works (Frankenstein, Dracula...) the original point, which in this case is about the nature of good and evil, has been lost in the media attention.
 
The Last Conformist said:
by "Mahen", do you mean Arthur Machen?

Yes :)

@Atropos: Up to now (i am just past the police officer's arrival to Mr. Hyde's house, along with Atterson, and all of the descriptions are such that i havent formed any image of how anyone looks like :(
 
i have to disagree with you, varwnos.

stevenson does describe the character in a sort of vague way, but i think it actually enhances the air of mystery of the tale.
it is supposed to be dark and foreboding, isnt it?

i think the air of mystery adds to the story, allowing you to see those 2 seperate facets of humanity in yourself, and others.

i dont think its his best work, but its darn near close to it.

when i have read it i was taken to a different world, and that is what i look for in a story.

i think that his BEST book (open door to all those that dont like "simple" stories to crush me) is TREASURE ISLAND.
i've read that one about 50 times already (im 34. do the math regarding how often i read it)

i can just recommend to you to try and forget the movie, and envision the story for yourself.
 
My issue with it is that due to the very general descriptions it allows for massively different interpratations of the scenes by each reader, and this can be tricky; afterall if a story is so dependant on its reader for imagery (ofcourse to an extent any story is, irregardless of the amount/method of description) then one has to ask if it should be judged by itself, or in relation to its reader.
If a reader is fond of Stevenson he is likely to fill the gaps by himself, but imo a writer should at least try to leave as few gaps as possible.
 
Thing is, though, Shakespeare's plays have virtually no physical description at all. Space for interpretation isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
I read J&H a few month ago and was a bit disappointed as well. Most characters seemed to exist only to further the story. They lacked interesting personalities to such an extent that i sometimes got confused by who is who.
The lack of physical descriptions didn't bother me at all, however. One reason why i love books is because i enjoy putting my imagination to work.
I think i would have liked the book better with a reduced, but better fleshed out cast. The lawyer would need serious remodeling, as far as i am concerned. As it stands, he is a run out of the mill hero person with little individuality.


(Btw, i started to read Frankenstein immediately i finished with J&H and found it to be incredibly boring. Stopped reading after ~ 1/3 of the book.)
 
Atropos said:
Thing is, though, Shakespeare's plays have virtually no physical description at all. Space for interpretation isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I don't think you can meaningfully compare a a play, meant to be preformed by actors, to a novel in this respect.

Just out of curiosity, varwnos, can you think of any book you thought had too much description? You're giving the impression of being something of a maximalist in this respect.
 
I thought it was very good. Of course, I read it as part of a program that had it as more of a philosophical work than fiction. (With Jekyll and Hyde being an allegory for man, and the darkness that is in him as one view; with Frankenstein as man, pure and uncorrupted until destroyed by society as another.) Such a view of his work Stevenson would have hated, but regardless, I thought it a good book anyway.
 
soul_warrior said:
i have to disagree with you, varwnos.

stevenson does describe the character in a sort of vague way, but i think it actually enhances the air of mystery of the tale.
it is supposed to be dark and foreboding, isnt it?

i think the air of mystery adds to the story, allowing you to see those 2 seperate facets of humanity in yourself, and others.

i dont think its his best work, but its darn near close to it.

when i have read it i was taken to a different world, and that is what i look for in a story.

i think that his BEST book (open door to all those that dont like "simple" stories to crush me) is TREASURE ISLAND.
i've read that one about 50 times already (im 34. do the math regarding how often i read it)

i can just recommend to you to try and forget the movie, and envision the story for yourself.

Ditto, ditto, ditto. Especially wrt Treasure Island and divorcing your reading from the films.
 
I don't know. I have not read the book, but I know the story; from what I've heard the dramatic adaptations tend to be very much better at giving the story true life.
 
The Last Conformist said:
Just out of curiosity, varwnos, can you think of any book you thought had too much description? You're giving the impression of being something of a maximalist in this respect.

Good question :D
Im not sure, since i tend to use a lot of description in my own work, since i ussually try to create my own world (as in a dream). But this doesnt mean that i dislike anything which has less descriptions. For example you may remember the Poe thread, where i mentioned the story "The tell-tale heart" which may not have much descriptions but it is very atmospheric, and evolves naturally to its climax. Different types of narrative imo require different methods of description, as for example a note in a diary doesnt require one to focus on explaining whether his desc is black or white (since naturally his focus would be in other things, unless ofcourse he was writing a note about a description of his desc).
However my problem is when descriptions appear to be too fake or mechanically produced, or too strange and out of place.
Imo although i can enjoy a story like the Tell-tale heart, a good method of giving life to descriptions is to actually move inside the story while describing them. For example it is boring to just mention what a room looks like, but it isnt as boring (hopefully) if the room is being slowly discovered through the eyes of the character moving through it, and the moves advance the plot by themselves, while at the same time being just moves inside a room. I can like minimalism, but i do not like confusion of styles and purposes, which leads to the impression that the author just connected pieces of different things and made the different sections of the story.
Since i am in the final chapter of Jekyll and Hyde atm, i can say that imo the most important description of location in this book (it has so many locations) was that of the laboratory of Dr. Jekyll, and there we only are told of the amphitheatre and the bottles and boxes on the ground. If i am just told in less than ten words how a location in a book that has 100 pages looks like, then naturally i feel that i am being tricked in a way, since i shouldnt have to press myself to bring the lines into life; the lines themselves should be guiding me into how the world of the book looks like.

However i am not arguing that i am the judge of books, for anyone other than myself ofcourse :)
 
I have now read the entire story.
I found the last chapter (it is a letter by Dr. Jekyll) to be the most interesting one, and this had to do with the fact that it was a letter and therefore one wouldnt expect from it a lot of descriptions (the scenery in the city didnt have to be described in detail, even less so when one would think of the state of mind Dr. Jekyll was in as he was writing it) and so Stevenson's lack of skill imo with descriptions didnt have a damaging effect here.
The letter also served as the key to the story, since we are told of Jekyll's theory about the double nature of man ("a person is in reality two people") and how he managed to seperate perfectly those two natures.
Or rather he didnt manage to do that, for whereas Mr. Hyde is argued to be "the evil side", Dr. Jekyll is not the "good side" but an amalgam of good and evil.
Problems with the letter are that we arent told neither how exactly Dr. Jekyll created the potion which led to this breakthrough (it is very sketchy from start to finish) nor how exactly the part of the substance he got from the pharmacy was crucial in the potion (he later on couldnt reproduce it since it appeared that the specific part was altered and not the standard substance).
This reminded me also of Arthur Machen's use of a similar "unexplained chemical alteration" of a substance in his story "The white powder" where also someone alters his form (not meaning to do it though) after using such a potion.

As a sidenote it appears that the theme of the double-self (although this story is not exactly about the theme of the double, since Stevenson names Jekyll as an amalgam, and only Hyde is a split) is behind this work. The notion that a person has a good and an evil nature, and those two exist independantly, is a very old one, and in psychology it is known as an effect (amongs other things of more sociological nature) of the so-called "split image of the mother". The mother can appear to be not one, but two beings, or at least to have two very different forms, to a very young child, and this can lead to the child viewing itself also as a two-formed/natured creature.

Overall the story ended in a better shape than it started/developed, but i still am of the view that it has many "flaws", due to the undeveloped, and robotic characters, who as Till also noted appear to only be there so as to push the plot towards a set direction, and have little life of their own.
 
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