The Succession Game

[Putchuco]

I'm too lazy to upload them anywhere. I just straight up attach them on civfanatics

Isn't the personal space here on the forum very limited in this regard?

 

[Arexander]

It is. It's about 4MB per user, but it doesn't really fill up that fast except if you post a lot of screenshots. There's a limit of three attachments per post, so that limits it much. Hence why I use links and/or images instead of attachments.

 

[Pydgie]

It is. It's about 4MB per user, but it doesn't really fill up that fast except if you post a lot of screenshots. There's a limit of three attachments per post, so that limits it much. Hence why I use links and/or images instead of attachments.

no there isn't any limit on attachments per post. You can upload more than three attachments on one post, but you have to do it in sets of three.

 

[Putchuco]

It is. It's about 4MB per user, [...]

Four MEGABYTES?!
That's four screenshots and maybe one savegame, holy cow...

 

[Gurra09]

Noo, 4MB can't be true. According to my Attachments page (go My Account and then Attachments down in the bottom of the panel) I have a total of 2,73MB attachments uploaded and the red used space is only a tiny bit compared to the green unused space.

 

[Putchuco]

Updated the savegame in the previous post.
Still not sure what happened, the PC at home still showed the file in the manage attachment list, strange.
Well, I switched to dropbox, makes my life easier.

 

[Putchuco]

Regarding a strategy for the game, I'm having the feeling:
- the small and tight map makes all-out war quite difficult, no stack-of-doom possible like in Civ4. In my experience one needs a couple of tiles of space to spread a significant army. And by that I mean at least 4 wide.
- on the other hand this exact same factor works IMHO to our advantage as the defense of our two cities will not be hugely difficult.
- furthermore I believe our neighbors, esp Washington have already built a sizable army

My 2cents would be:
- stick with the two cities, more cities would increase all sorts of penalties: culture, national wonders, policies, even science gets more expensive by 5% with every new city.
- a third city would need to grow fast and big, and I can't see that happening here.
- go right away after the national college in the capital
- grow our population as fast as possible: more ppl generate more science
- see how we're doing on the science front after a few rounds
- all the while keeping a couple of defensive units ready to counter any attacks (that will surely come)

One possible alternative I could envision would entail building a couple of Quinteremes which are good for bombarding cities if I'm not mistaken, therefore giving space for warfare.

What is everybody else thinking?

 

[Gurra09]

I'm thinking you're right in regards of military. The space is tight and our land is also surrounded by all these hills and forest which would slow down a land-based army a lot. We do have Quinqeremes though, melee units of the sea and stronger than Triremes, but we would probably still need ranged units to go in and do damage. If we were to attack our neighbors, maybe we should research some naval techs to get the ranged Galleass ships? Boston could probably easily be taken by some ships from Carthage. Attacking the other side of the continent would need us to get some more production going in Utique though.

But I like your ideas, a National College would help us get on in the science race because we seem to be quite behind at the moment.

 

[Arexander]

Oh, whoops. I misunderstood the attachment window. The maximum is 60MB, not 4MB (the about 4MB was the current attachments I have)

 

[Putchuco]

while we're waiting, another thought:
- I really would like to have that Gem tile
Obvious happiness, it would also cut off the American city from its capital.

and while I'm at it, when we decide to go after peaceful science, we might want to keep the option for a surprise attack open. Should someone attack our disliked neighbor Washington, we could very quickly chime in and with a little luck take a city...
For such a feat 1-2 Galeasses (is that the plural?) would be exquisit...

Any thoughts?

 

[Arexander]

Sounds golden. Throw in some Quintueremes too so we have some extra firepower taking the city.

 

[Putchuco]

Can't wait to continue...

Who's turn is it btw? Pydgie?

 

[Pydgie]

I just realized we are at the same exact spot as real life Nagoya, on the river and everything. And I guess utique matches up with tsuruga (don't worry. I ain't never heard of no tsuruga neither).

Anyway, it's my turn. I'll try to play my turn soon, but that will probably be tomorrow afternoon. I could, maybe, do it this afternoon, but it's unlikely. Sorry for the wait.

 

[Putchuco]

I just realized we are at the same exact spot as real life Nagoya, on the river and everything. And I guess utique matches up with tsuruga (don't worry. I ain't never heard of no tsuruga neither).

I haven't even thought of that, you are right! Interesting to look at the map IRL! LOL

Anyway, it's my turn. I'll try to play my turn soon, but that will probably be tomorrow afternoon. I could, maybe, do it this afternoon, but it's unlikely. Sorry for the wait.

Don't worry about it, just antsy to continue the game.

 

[Pydgie]

Can't wait to continue...

Who's turn is it btw? Pydgie?

Alright, unfortunately, since you're file is in Dropbox I can't access it on the computer I have civ installed on (this is a problem with my computer's Ssl connection, anybody else, or any other computer can dwnld it). So, there are two options: either putchuco can post his save directly on civfanaticcs, or arexander can just go before me.

 

[Pydgie]

Alright, arexander, just take a shot. From now on, you are first in the lineup

 

[Arexander]

Got it! Will play shortly.

EDIT: Just opened the save to see Washington being the only one friendly towards us. I sense a surprise attack incoming.

 

[Arexander]

No pics, was in a hurry

Turn Log:

Turn 0 (80) - 875BC
Renamed Carthage to Nagoya
Renamed Utique to Tsuruga

IBT
America offers Declaration of Friendship instead of a surprise attack, of course I'll accept!

Turn 1 (81) - 850BC
Scout disembarks 1SE

IBT
nada

Turn 2 (82) - 825BC
Opened Tradition as we're quite small and no better options were available science-wise
Scout 1SE-1E

IBT
nada

Turn 3 (83) - 800BC
Mathematics > Horseback Riding in 4
Nagoya Worker > Water Mill in 9
Scout 1W-SW

IBT
nada

Turn 4 (84) - 775BC
Scout 1SW-1W
Northern Worker embarks 1W

IBT
nada

Turn 5 (85) - 750BC
Scout 1W-1NW
Southern Worker 1NW-1W
Northern Worker disembarks 2NW

IBT
Songhai founded Islam (Monasteries, Initiation Rites [+100 gold when city converts for the first time])

Turn 6 (86) - 725BC
Scout 2W
SWorker Cotton Plantation in 5
NWorker Iron Mine in 6

IBT
Unmet Civilization reached Medieval Era

Turn 7 (87) - 700BC
Horseback Riding > Iron Working in 8
Scout 2E
Took notice of 4 Jap Warriors near our southern border, moved Composite Bowman 1SE

IBT
2 of the 4 Japs moved away
Tsuruga grows to 5

Turn 8 (88) - 675BC
Scout 2SW
Meet the Huns, traded embassies
Took a tour of known capitals; Greece, Assyria and the Huns are building the Great Lighthouse
Fortified C.Bow

IBT
nada

Turn 9 (89) - 650BC
Tsuruga Library > Lighthouse in 9
Scout 1W-1SW
Sell newly-acquired Cotton to America for 157g and 2gpt
Buy Work Boat in Tsuruga for 240g

IBT
The Huns come asking for support on a war with Greece, we decline politely
Unknown Civilization built the G. Lighthouse

Turn 10 (90) - 625BC
Scout 2W
SWorker embarks 2E
Work Boat moves on Whale tile

IBT
Greece announces protection for Sydney
Unknown Civilization founds Catholicism (Church Property [+2g per city following this religion], Religious Center [+2 happiness for Temples in a city with 5 followers])

Turn 11 (91) - 600BC
Scout 1W-1SW
SWorker disembark 1E
NWorker 1NE-1NW
WBoat used on Whales

IBT
America advances to Medieval Era

Turn 12 (92) - 575BC
Nagoya Water Mill > Quinquereme in 4
Scout 1W-1NW
SWorker Silk Plantation in 8
NWorker Copper Mine in 6

IBT
nada

Turn 13 (93) - 550BC
Scout 1W-1E

IBT
Netherlands completed the Great Wall

Turn 14 (94) - 525BC
Iron Working > Currency in x (didn't take note )
Scout 2SE

IBT
The promise not to settle near America is completed

Turn 15 (95) - 500BC
Nagoya Qqreme > National College in x (again )
Scout embarks 1SE
Quinquereme 1SE-1SW-2SE

IBT
Siam founds the pantheon of One with Nature (+4 faith from natural wonders)
The promise not to buy tiles near America is completed
Nagoya grows to 7, Nat. College in 17

Turn 16 (96) - 475BC
Scout disembarks 2SE, finds heckloads of Barbs
Caravan establishes a trade route between Nagoya and Boston (+5g, +1b)
Qqreme 1SE-2SW-1W

IBT
Meet Bratislava (Cultural, friendly, 3 Wine, 1 Citrus, wants us to kill an encampment)
Brute attacks Scout > Scout@65HP, Brute@70HP

Turn 17 (97) - 450BC
Scout embarks 1NE
Qqreme 2SW-1W-1SW
NWorker 2SE

IBT
America builds the Pyramids
The Huns declare war on Greece

Turn 18 (98) - 425BC
Scout disembarks 1NE-1E
NWorker road in 4
Qqreme 3W-1NW

IBT
nada

Turn 19 (99) - 400BC
Tsuruga Lighthouse > Qqreme in 5
Scout heals
SWorker 1SE
Qqreme 1W-3SW

IBT
Pythagoras completes his list of Cities we all like to visit, Washington 1st with 2, no others

Turn 20 (100) - 375BC
Qqreme 2W-1NW-1W
SWorker Silk Plantation in 8

Save attached below, as usual. I'd recommend the others use the attachments function for the saves so we don't run into problems like Pydgie did

 

[Pydgie]

Hereare the screenshots and save. I'll do the writeup later.

 

[Gurra09]

I'm going away over the weekend so I won't take my turns until Monday or maybe Sunday evening. Just so you know.