The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control

[Broken_Erika]

Well, Surprise Surprise.

Botham Shem Jean: Police 'trying to smear' shooting victim

Dallas police have been accused of smear tactics after court documents revealed marijuana was found in a man's flat where he was shot dead by an off-duty police officer.

Lawyers for 26-year-old Botham Shem Jean said police were trying to "criminalise the victim".

Officer Amber Guyger, who shot him, says she mistook his apartment for her own and thought he was an intruder.

She has been charged with manslaughter and has been released on bail.

A search was conducted at Mr Jean's apartment after the deadly shooting.

Court documents released on Thursday showed that police had found a small amount of marijuana at the property, along with other items such as a lunch box and laptop.

It's Official! The so-called victim was obviously a drug dealer and criminal and the officer was only doing her job!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45525275

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Well, Surprise Surprise.

It's Official! The so-called victim was obviously a drug dealer and criminal and the officer was only doing her job!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45525275

Not only that, HE HAD A LUNCHBOX!!!! No telling what he was trying to do with that. We should be thankful she came across him in time. Thankful I say.

 

[Commodore]

Yeah, can't really side with the police on this one. This was an off-duty cop who walked into the wrong apartment and shot the legal occupant of that apartment. Even if the guy was literally in the middle of a drug deal at the time, you still couldn't justify this.

I also find it odd that the police mentioned they found a laptop and a lunchbox. Those are two very common household items you'd find in just about any home in the US and aren't really relevant to the incident being discussed.

 

[cardgame]

not just any lunchbox, a crime lunchbox.

 

[Sommerswerd]

a black crime lunchbox

 

[brennan]

80% of crimes against black lunchboxes are committed by other black lunchboxes.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I thought it was 99%

 

[Lexicus]

It's 91%. Guyger apparently had a Pinterest account full of fascist "blue line" crap and anti-BLM, anti-Kaepernick crap. Big surprise eh?

 

[Sommerswerd]

I'm shocked!... SHOCKED I tells ya!

@Lexicus, you don't thinking that there's some connection between her shooting that innocent man and her attitudes about BLM, Kaepernick etc... do you?

What could possibly be the connection?
Wait... do you think that the "blue line", anti BLM, anti Kaepernick, etc folks are harboring some kind of animosity, (conscious or subconscious) towards black people? Say it ain't so

 

[Commodore]

you don't thinking that there's some connection between her shooting that innocent man and her attitudes about BLM, Kaepernick etc... do you?

No, there's not. At least there is nothing that has come out to indicate the two are connected. Not everything that happens is about politics and race you know.

She was an idiot, her idiocy led to the death of another person, and she's likely going to face consequences for that. I will use this incident though as another piece of evidence that the average citizen is still a more responsible gun owner than the average cop. Especially since I would say, proportionally, the police end up killing more people with their guns than non-law enforcement gun owners do.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

No, there's not. At least there is nothing that has come out to indicate the two are connected. Not everything that happens is about politics and race you know.

She was an idiot, her idiocy led to the death of another person, and she's likely going to face consequences for that. I will use this incident though as another piece of evidence that the average citizen is still a more responsible gun owner than the average cop. Especially since I would say, proportionally, the police end up killing more people with their guns than non-law enforcement gun owners do.

Someone who reads a bunch of "those black men are all dangerous criminals" nonsense would seem more likely to shoot a black man where they might take a second before shooting a white man...a second where they might realize "hey, these aren't my sticks." No way to say for sure in the "what might have been" world, but it does stand to reason.

 

[Samson]

She was an idiot, her idiocy led to the death of another person, and she's likely going to face consequences for that.

Walking into a room and shooting an unarmed occupant of that room is way beyond idiocy, whoevers room that is.

 

[Lexicus]

At least there is nothing that has come out to indicate the two are connected.

Nothing except it being totally obvious but sure yeah

 

[Sommerswerd]

She was is an idiot racist, her idiocy racial prejudice led to the death of another person, and she's likely possibly going to face consequences for that.

FTFY

Not everything that happens is about politics and race you know.

Not everything, no... But this thing is, no matter how badly you wish it wasn't... as are many things that involve guns and gun control.

 

[Farm Boy]

Well, there was no public space involved. No crime being committed by the decedent. I'd say if she doesn't face consequences this is a pretty good litmus test of prosecutorial malpractice.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Well, there was no public space involved. No crime being committed by the decedent. I'd say if she doesn't face consequences this is a pretty good litmus test of prosecutorial malpractice.

But it was just an accident. People do get confused and walk into the wrong apartment. It happens. It's not her fault that the occupant of the apartment was such a dangerous looking individual that she felt like her only option was to shoot him without thinking. Natural reflex. If it wasn't for the dirty liberals forcing us to desegregate housing she could have been living in an all white building and no one would have died. The dirty liberals are the real danger to black people, and it is high time they realized it.

 

[Lexicus]

There's also the matter of the witnesses who claim to have heard pounding on the door and her screaming "let me in" which doesn't exactly jive with the "wrong apartment" story...

 

[Timsup2nothin]

There's also the matter of the witnesses who claim to have heard pounding on the door and her screaming "let me in" which doesn't exactly jive with the "wrong apartment" story...

It does if she was roaring drunk, which in my experience with "went to the wrong apartment trying to get home" stories has always been a factor.

 

[EgonSpengler]

Well, there was no public space involved. No crime being committed by the decedent. I'd say if she doesn't face consequences this is a pretty good litmus test of prosecutorial malpractice.

I read that the charge of manslaughter is subject to the findings of a grand jury, which could amend the charges against her, up to first-degree murder.

 

[Sommerswerd]

But it was just an accident. People do get confused and walk into the wrong apartment. It happens. It's not her fault that the occupant of the apartment was such a dangerous looking individual that she felt like her only option was to shoot him without thinking. Natural reflex. If it wasn't for the dirty liberals forcing us to desegregate housing she could have been living in an all white building and no one would have died. The dirty liberals are the real danger to black people, and it is high time they realized it.

I was a teenager when I realized that it was safer and more practical to think of myself as a wolf or alligator, or rattlesnake, or something like that... not that I should behave that way, mind you, but to realize that while I was just a regular human, some people I encountered would not see me that way, they would look at me and see a dangerous terrifying creature.

So then when the elevator door opened and the woman entering shrieked in terror to see me standing there... I was not as hurt or disturbed or surprised... Of course she reacted that way... how would you expect someone to react if the elevator door opened and there was a crocodile inside? I leaned to expect that kind of reaction from some people. When the police get called on me for walking around in my own yard or sitting in my car in my own neighborhood... Of course someone called the police... what would you expect people to do if they saw a lion walking around in their neighborhood? When the police approached me with their hands on their guns or their guns drawn, I expect that... What would you expect them to do when approaching a grizzly bear?

"OH MY GOD! YOU SCARED ME!"
"Yes I know"
But I didn't actually scare you...you're just afraid of "tigers"