The "Would this change your beilef on God" Thread!

Which of these situations would convince you about god being real or not?


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El_Machinae said:
How about if a Christian tells you "I'm going to pray that meteors hit your lawn spelling out "Jesus Loves You"" ... and it happens?

Edit: you need to pretty up your post before we can answer.
That would do it for me too.
 
Well ... it hasn't happened yet. It wouldn't be sufficient for the same reason 1) isn't

Number 1 could be replicated with technology. As well, it answers none of my 'hard' questions.
 
El_Machinae said:
Well ... it hasn't happened yet. It wouldn't be sufficient for the same reason 1) isn't

Number 1 could be replicated with technology. As well, it answers none of my 'hard' questions.

Well, it hasnt happened because I dont know where you live...;)

I got a bucket full of flaming brickets for you if I ever find out tho....:lol:
 
Quentin said:
Although both the other scenarios may also change my belief if the vision was strong and/or persistent enough.

This is the problem with such scenarios, they never spell out how persistent these things are, who else witnesses them, etc etc. It would take an awful lot of words to try to cover such details. A few seconds of actual experience probably contains more information than all the books I've ever read.*

In short, I can't define it, but I'll know it when I see it.

*this is a great setup line for all you sarcastic biting wits out there ;)
 
I've come to the realisation that it is impossible for a person from a pantheist religion like mine to discuss religious matters on a forum like CFC , because all religious talk is based on prohpetic monotheism , not on the philosophico-religious pantheist ideas of the Eastern religions . Out of the three "religious" scenarios posted , the first does not contradict Hinduism , and the other two are meaningless , as there is no prophetic tradition in Hinduism . So you'll have to do better than that to make a Hindu lose his faith ( though that phrase is misleading , because it is not strictly necessary to have faith to be a Hindu ) .
 
I would not be shaken by those ideas, God exists. Period. End. Of. Story.

To me, the existance of God is an undeniable truth. No human findings can break my faith.
 
God exists. Period. End. Of. Story.

Nice basis for an argument:)

I'm an agnostic, leaning on atheist. I wouldn't be convinced by 1, but might be by 2 or 3, depending on how realistic they seem. Of course, I might still think it is just some kind of mental disorder.
 
If suprnatural events happen all over the place an we can observe them, then the cease to be supernatural. They become 'natural' and therefor subject to study using scientific methodology.
 
Athiest, and only number 2 would convince me of God, because they are being specific. And only if I recieve the vision multiple times. I do zone out quite a lot, and my dreams are insane. Number 1 would be too vague to convince me of any specific God, so I would only turn agonistic.
 
Religious here,

Xanikk999 said:
1. The origins of the universe has been proven with science and so has evolution and pretty much everything else and everything below this happened also.
I'll still believe that God one the one who lit the dynamaite for the big bang! :p

Xanikk999 said:
2. An ancient document has been found that has been written by your prophet detailing that the whole thing was a hoax.
The Catholic Church, many Catholics in the world, and I would dismiss the ancient document as a piece of herecy :p

Xanikk999 said:
3. Jesus/Another prophet has been proven to be a psycopathic schizoprenic during his life time.
See #2. Though The Catholic Church and many Catholics would dismiss that statement as just herecy.

None of these situations would effect my Catholic faith :D.
 
Agnostic/Atheist here, none of those would make me worship God. Some of them might make make me consider that some higher being has more input to our world than I previously expected but nothing would make me worship that being.

New question:
What if God appeared to you and told you he didn't exist?
 
Truronian said:
New question:
What if God appeared to you and told you he didn't exist?

If that happened, I couldn't stop believing in Him. But if He commanded me not to believe in Him, I would do it.
 
Truronian said:
What if God appeared to you and told you he didn't exist?
Isint that a bit contridictary? God would not appear and tell anyone that he does not exist.
 
CivGeneral said:
Isint that a bit contridictary? God would not appear and tell anyone that he does not exist.

It is, I'll rephrase;

What if god appeared to you and told you that he was not worthy of your worship? Would you continue to worship him?
 
I'd ask if he wanted it. I'd follow what he says after that
 
Truronian said:
It is, I'll rephrase;

What if god appeared to you and told you that he was not worthy of your worship? Would you continue to worship him?

I would still worship, despite what God said to me.
 
I couldn't answer the poll with the options given.

Xanikk999 said:
1. The origins of the universe has been proven with science and so has evolution and pretty much everything else and everything below this happened also.
I don't believe that the Bible, especially the Old Testament, is to be taken strictly literally. I already believe that evolution etc. is the mechanism which God used.

2. An ancient document has been found that has been written by your prophet detailing that the whole thing was a hoax.
This would definitely shake my beliefs to the core... if there was ironclad proof that the document itself was not a hoax.

3. Jesus/Another prophet has been proven to be a psycopathic schizoprenic during his life time.
During what period of his lifetime? What symptoms? And, again, it would need to be PROVEN.

This scenario would have the potential to shake my beliefs, but as stated is too vague.
 
All three religious reasons aren't necessarily connected with a belief in God. I believe in God, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe in evolution or the big bang, hence situation 1 would not affect me. I don't believe in any prophets, and whether that prophets were correct or divinely inspired has no relevance to my personal belief in God. Hence situation 2 and 3 have no affect on me either.

Perhaps if my faith in God was built entirely on Jesus and the bible (or another prophet(s) and holy scripture(s) ) then I would have to re-evaluate my belief system, but even so I'd either ignore the evidence or I'd dump the prophet and the scripture but keep the Deity.
 
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