Think Rand Paul is an intellectual lightweight?

[GhostWriter16]

That is a pipe dream. There's actually more of a chance of getting legalization with liberal Democrats. What you need to do is come up with a good reason other than just wanting the government to stay out of everyone's business. If you go the libertarian route then you'll get an awful lot of bad along with whatever other goal you're seeking. The worst is the lack of environmental regulations and protections. Say goodbye to clean air, water and land if libertarians had all the power. No safety nets and lots more privatization of prisons would actually create more incentive to keep it illegal so they can get more prisoners to work for free.

You do know there are different levels of libertarian, right?

For instance, I personally believe in a reduced safety net, but not none as you say.

Also, privatization of prisons? That's an awful idea. Who the heck supports that?

 

[JollyRoger]

Also, privatization of prisons? That's an awful idea.

No surprise that it started under Reagan:

The birth of the contemporary American private prison industry may be traced to 1984, when the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service became the first federal agency to contract for private correctional services, with the Corrections Corporation of America. This initial movement toward the federal privatization of corrections was quickly followed by contracts for outsourcing developed by the US Marshals Service and the US Bureau of Prisons in 1986.

http://government.cce.cornell.edu/doc/html/PrisonsPrivatization.htm

 

[GhostWriter16]

Oh, sorry, its a great idea

In all seriousness, I disagree with an otherwise very good President here.

*****

After watching the video, I'd love to see Rand Paul as our President.

 

[Traitorfish]

I too would like to see the odds of Rand Paul being assassinated sky-rocket.

 

[Thedrin]

After watching the video, I'd love to see Rand Paul as our President.

What exactly about the video made you change your mind?

 

[Murky]

You do know there are different levels of libertarian, right?

There's different levels of psychopathy too.

For instance, I personally believe in a reduced safety net, but not none as you say.

There is very little support for a welfare state any of today's political parties. They don't even want to help out single young mothers while they look for work. The poor are pretty much on their own, except for a few things like food stamps and medicaid. How much more can you take away before you ended up with losing lots of people to things like starvation, exposure or an untreated common medical condition?

Also, privatization of prisons? That's an awful idea. Who the heck supports that?

Mostly Republicans but some Democrats and Libertarians do.

 

[Cutlass]

I know you're kinda the king of meaningless political labels around here, but I can do without your authority on this matter, thanks.

Label-juggling notwithstanding, the fact remains that Abegweit actually knows what he's talking about, instead of just announcing his ideology because it's the current rightwing fad.

No, he doesn't. He's an anarchist.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Abegweit isn't libertarian, he's anarchist.

He's not really an anarchist, he's just an anti-statists. Anarchists are against power as such, not just against the Westphalian nation-state.

/pedant

"Westphalian" nation-state? Is this part of that mischaracterization of the IPO and IPM that used to be popular back in like the thirties?

I meant nation-states that are situated between the Stephanian and Namurian strata. Trolls and such.

Doesn't mean anything over here, we just have the Pennsylvanian. Well, and a bunch of Russian names for the stages that nobody can remember.

I'm not sure where exactly I got off this train.

 

[Cryptic_Snow]

Wow just wow. Do you actually believe this?

Ron Paul is just a reactionary old fart who gives potheads on the internet boners because he wants to legalize their favorite past time.

He is certainly no anarchist

His supporters are far too active and energetic at rallies to be potheads.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I really wonder what that says about liberals

In Europe ?
Liberals are very right-wing on all matters economy & taxes and generally not to be taken too seriously for this very reason.

 

[Cryptic_Snow]

Oh, sorry, its a great idea

After watching the video, I'd love to see Rand Paul as our President.

I almost wish Rand was running this election instead of his father. I think we'd clean Obama's clock in November with someone as articulate and can sell the conservative message like Rand.

 

[useless]

She violated her own principals to get assistance from the government.

 

[Traitorfish]

She violated her own principals to get assistance from the government.

I think you might have you Rands mixed up, there.

No, he doesn't. He's an anarchist.

He's not really an anarchist, he's just an anti-statists. Anarchists are against power as such, not just against the Westphalian nation-state.

/pedant

Keep up, lad.

 

[JollyRoger]

I almost wish Rand was running this election instead of his father.

Me too - the circus needs bigger clowns.

 

[Rashiminos]

I'm not sure where exactly I got off this train.

I'm guessing Albuquerque

Most libertarians are pretty harmless. They just want to be left alone and not do harm to anyone else. There are some that are certifiable sociopaths who want the government out the way so they are free to exploit others to their heart's content.

The others find their way into government.

However, in a government with very broadbased representation, not much sociopathy actually happens within the government. The narrower is the representation, the more sociopathy is evident. As is, there's more actual sociopathy in private enterprise in countries like the US than there is in government. And there would be vastly more still if government wasn't keeping a lid on it.

Quite the reverse.

 

[Borachio]

The poor are pretty much on their own

This.

 

[Cutlass]

Quite the reverse.

So you reverse the American experience?

 

[Traitorfish]

I believe that would be the experience of countries America has, ahem, involved itself in. You have a collective talent for turning your talented sociopaths towards little brown people who don't really matter; just look at Kissinger.

 

[GhostWriter16]

I too would like to see the odds of Rand Paul being assassinated sky-rocket.

OK, wishing for someone's death that hasn't committed a crime is just wrong.

What exactly about the video made you change your mind?

Nothing other than I hadn't actually looked into him at all.

I almost wish Rand was running this election instead of his father. I think we'd clean Obama's clock in November with someone as articulate and can sell the conservative message like Rand.

Ron Paul is more Libertarian than proper conservative, while Rand seems closer to the middle, which, yes, would probably make him more electable. I do like his father marginally better though.

 

[JollyRoger]

OK, wishing for someone's death that hasn't committed a crime is just wrong.

Have you ever wished for the death of an abortion doctor?